Dammit, Dak! Why?

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GloryDawg

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There's a Bud Lite billboard in Jackson honoring Veterans. They know they made a mistake and are trying to fix it. It's going to take a good time for them to be forgiven. The Dak move will not help them.
 

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the TV ad in question and they also sponsor Travis Kelce and George Kittle. Dak signed his deal with Anheuser-Busch 2 years ago in 2021. All his sponsorship deals are said to total about $50M combined (Nike's Jordan, Campbell Soup, Apple Beats, Pepsi, Sleep Number, DirecTV, Walk-On's, Oxefit and Oikos)

 
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from the interwebs:

"Bud Light does not sponsor the Dallas Cowboys. Though the brand is the official National Football League (NFL) beer partner, the Dallas Cowboys are missing from their clientele list. The Cowboys are one of the five NFL franchises not sponsored by the beer giants."

Dallas Cowboys confirm ‘US$200m’ Molson Coors extension​


I guess the 5th largest brewer with $10 billion in revenue is not a "Beer Giant" anymore
 

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Gyat damn some of y'all are softer than the tranny that hawked the product for 5 minutes.
 

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I agree with you - basically, everyone please stay in your lane, leave others alone, quit pushing your beliefs on everyone else (especially children). Quit purposefully standing up (or parading around) in the public square shouting that everyone has to agree with you or else be canceled/labeled a bigot/punished in some manner. It is so so tiresome.
Right. There is no place in schools to indoctrinate people into your religion, or canceling an athlete for his views, or a brand for selling to a market you disagree with.
 

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There's a Bud Lite billboard in Jackson honoring Veterans. They know they made a mistake and are trying to fix it. It's going to take a good time for them to be forgiven. The Dak move will not help them.
Why should they" be forgiven"?

Do you think they no longer sponsor LGTBQ+ events? Or the MolsonCoors doesnt? Or Heniken?
 

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I agree with you - basically, everyone please stay in your lane, leave others alone, quit pushing your beliefs on everyone else (especially children). Quit purposefully standing up (or parading around) in the public square shouting that everyone has to agree with you or else be canceled/labeled a bigot/punished in some manner. It is so so tiresome.
I agree with your post, in general.

The red part is really difficult to get on board with though, because beliefs are pushed on everyone else, and especially children, by both sides. Action, or inaction, on any of the current outrage issues will effectively push beliefs on children.

School library book bans, bathroom identity use, teaching the concept of racial bias though history, supporting trans kids' identity, etc etc- all of this is pushing beliefs on children from both sides. Regardless of how all of us view each issue I mentioned, we are all pushing our beliefs on children. We are pushing our beliefs on children when legislation is passed. We are pushing our beliefs on children when schoolboard members are voted out or others are voted in. We are pushing our beliefs on children when teachers agree to call a child by their preferred name.

As a society, we are constantly pushing our beliefs on children through legislation, through school board fights, and in classrooms. Beliefs from both sides are constantly pushed.
It is completely impossible to not push our beliefs on children. Like not at all possible in any way.
 

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Here's Venn diagram of dudes who can't stop publicly caterwauling about Bud Light and dudes who can't get enough transsexual porn (NTTAWWT):

 
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the TV ad in question and they also sponsor Travis Kelce and George Kittle. Dak signed his deal with Anheuser-Busch 2 years ago in 2021. All his sponsorship deals are said to total about $50M combined (Nike's Jordan, Campbell Soup, Apple Beats, Pepsi, Sleep Number, DirecTV, Walk-On's, Oxefit and Oikos)


I don't see the big deal. Now if he does a commercial for them with Dylan Mulvaney, I think he'd lose a few fans.
 

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Why should they" be forgiven"?

Do you think they no longer sponsor LGTBQ+ events? Or the MolsonCoors doesnt? Or Heniken?
I don't drink beer and don't give a ****, but they have pissed a lot of people off based on the billions in dollars they have lost in sales. They wouldn't be doing all this different stuff if they were trying to repair the damage. Hell, they suspended the VP who made the decision for the transgender ad.
 
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Why risk your great reputation, fan-following, etc., by jumping on board the toxic Bud Light sinking ship? Can't imagine this works out good for him in the long wrong. You know it will absolutely turn a large chunk of fans against him.

Sorry, but really dumb move. If his agent ok'd this, that agent should be fired.
All this talk about nothing gives me a headache not to mention Bud Llght did also the few times I drank it
 
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the TV ad in question and they also sponsor Travis Kelce and George Kittle. Dak signed his deal with Anheuser-Busch 2 years ago in 2021. All his sponsorship deals are said to total about $50M combined (Nike's Jordan, Campbell Soup, Apple Beats, Pepsi, Sleep Number, DirecTV, Walk-On's, Oxefit and Oikos)


I’m more offended by the Pepsi endorsement. Gross!
 

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I don't drink beer and don't give a ****, but they have pissed a lot of people off based on the billions in dollars they have lost in sales. They wouldn't be doing all this different stuff if they were trying to repair the damage. Hell, they suspended the VP who made the decision for the transgender ad.
That's the thing...

They are not " doing all this different stuff" They are doing the same thing they have done.

They were the name sponsor of Pride events around the country AFTER the backlash.
Pride parades filled the streets of many cities this past weekend including New York City, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis, Toronto, and more. One of their sponsors? None other than Bud Light.

They supported Vets before and still do now.

The funny thing to me is the thing they did with Dylan was on on her social media. If you didn't follow her, you never see it. Which means someone following her personal account sent this out...
 

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I must say I've enjoyed seeing all these evangelicals get in a tizzy and defensive about what I was always told growing up by those evangelicals was a sinful product anyway.
That and how Bud Light is pushing trans agendas onto our kids. You mean the product that is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to purchase or possess?
 
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Yes, time to carry the pitchforks to Barbie outrage. Nothing more satisfying than arguing about how fictional characters "should" be. Up until now, little girls wanting to be just like Barbie, many of whom have the eating disorders to prove their desire to have an unattainable body, has been just fine...
I don't think there would be a Barbie outrage except for the fact that it's a kid's toy but the first thing you hear is all the crazy statements coming from the Director and the people who acted in the film. I heard it's pretty good and the critics don't really didn't see it as s a feminist film.

Bet we don't care come September.
 

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Why risk your great reputation, fan-following, etc., by jumping on board the toxic Bud Light sinking ship? Can't imagine this works out good for him in the long wrong. You know it will absolutely turn a large chunk of fans against him.

Sorry, but really dumb move. If his agent ok'd this, that agent should be fired.
So let me get this straight...you want that man to not get paid because of your own closed minded insecurities?

Boy you've unlocked a new level of stupid
 

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That's the thing...

They are not " doing all this different stuff" They are doing the same thing they have done.

They were the name sponsor of Pride events around the country AFTER the backlash.


They supported Vets before and still do now.

The funny thing to me is the thing they did with Dylan was on on her social media. If you didn't follow her, you never see it. Which means someone following her personal account sent this out...
You don't think that maybe...just maybe...they were instructed by their preferred talking heads to get angry and create made up controversy for clicks and views? Pawns in the media machine on a subject they wouldn't have never otherwise noticed or gotten worked up about?

Nah, wouldn't happen.

ETA: before someone cries - it's not just conservatives that are crybabies. The libs are doing it over a really ****** country song as we type. Manufactured outrage and cancellation is big business.
 
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maybe...they were instructed by their preferred talking heads to get angry and create made up controversy for clicks and views?

If that's the case then someone other than the Marketing Director should be fired because in this case "clicks and views" has cost them Billions, and continues to.
 

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If that's the case then someone other than the Marketing Director should be fired because in this case "clicks and views" has cost them Billions, and continues to.
You can't fire the media or change human nature. People like to overreact and the media is there to capitalize on it to the detriment of others. Hell, AB is probably increasing their ad spend at Fox to mitigate the damage to their brand mostly due to Fox chumming the waters over a 40 second Instagram video. This would have been a non issue (or very very minor blip) for AB had Fox and similar not run with it and instructed their viewers to be pissed off. This was an obscure marketing effort based on what I've seen of it.
 

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I don't drink beer and don't give a ****, but they have pissed a lot of people off based on the billions in dollars they have lost in sales. They wouldn't be doing all this different stuff if they were trying to repair the damage. Hell, they suspended the VP who made the decision for the transgender ad.

You say they wouldn't be doing this if they were trying to repair the damage.
...so you think they aren't trying to repair the damage? Your comment is confusing.


It was 2 people who were put on leave, to be clear. And before they were put on leave, they were receiving g death threats. Like actual threats of death...for an instagram post and product tie-in with a legal aged adult who is not breaking laws.

That really can't be glossed over- their lives were threatened multiple times.

And all this because a company is trying to do what companies are supposed to do- increased product penetration in various markets.
Other brands do the same thing and have done the same thing for years with various lgbtq+ communities.

The selective outrage would be hilarious, if it weren't so pathetic and scary.
 
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I don't think there would be a Barbie outrage except for the fact that it's a kid's toy but the first thing you hear is all the crazy statements coming from the Director and the people who acted in the film. I heard it's pretty good and the critics don't really didn't see it as s a feminist film.

Bet we don't care come September.
Is the first thing we hear all the crazy statements coming from the director and actors?
I haven't heard a single thing coming from any of them. And I am willing to bet that my experience is common.
For those who are terminally online and perpetually plugged into the outrage machine, I bet they would know what you are referring to.


Anyways, since we are talking about Barbie now and the thread is about outrage on the right, I just heard this morning that Ted Cruz and others on the right are losing their crap over some imaginary map of the world that has some dashes near 'China' and claiming that means the movie is pushing Chinese communist propaganda. Apparently this has been a thing for weeks now?
- The 9 dashes that Cruz refers to is something China does to claim a ton of ocean, which is contested by other countries.
- A picture of the map shows 8 dashes, not 9.
- The picture doesnt show the dashes anywhere close to other land or where the dashes are on actual Chinese maps.
- THE BARBIE MAP DOESNT EVEN HAVE EUROPE! LIKE ALL OF EUROPE DOESNT 17ing EXIST, BUT CRUZ IS TWEAKING OVER SOME DASHES.


What the absolute 17.



To be clear- no I do not think China 'owns' the area covered by the actual 9 dashes and I understand countries covered by the dashes being annoyed when the dashes are referenced with legitimacy.
 

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If that's the case then someone other than the Marketing Director should be fired because in this case "clicks and views" has cost them Billions, and continues to.
The stock is still up 5% since this time last year....
 

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I agree with your post, in general.

The red part is really difficult to get on board with though, because beliefs are pushed on everyone else, and especially children, by both sides. Action, or inaction, on any of the current outrage issues will effectively push beliefs on children.

School library book bans, bathroom identity use, teaching the concept of racial bias though history, supporting trans kids' identity, etc etc- all of this is pushing beliefs on children from both sides. Regardless of how all of us view each issue I mentioned, we are all pushing our beliefs on children. We are pushing our beliefs on children when legislation is passed. We are pushing our beliefs on children when schoolboard members are voted out or others are voted in. We are pushing our beliefs on children when teachers agree to call a child by their preferred name.

As a society, we are constantly pushing our beliefs on children through legislation, through school board fights, and in classrooms. Beliefs from both sides are constantly pushed.
It is completely impossible to not push our beliefs on children. Like not at all possible in any way.
Hold on a second. Let me see if I understand you. I may have to read this again. Are you saying we push beliefs on children?***
 

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I cut the grass yesterday. Having a nice lawn is pushing a belief on kids about the type of neighborhood I live in. It's no different than me winning a school board seat, announcing that men can menstruate and telling young teenage girls they have to share bathrooms and showers with anyone who identifies as female and calling them bigots if they even voice some concern about seeing a girl with an erect female penis in the girls lockerroom. They are just beliefs. Beliefs that are pushed on kids. Parents need to understand that. It's just something that happens all the time.
 
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Is the first thing we hear all the crazy statements coming from the director and actors?
I haven't heard a single thing coming from any of them. And I am willing to bet that my experience is common.
For those who are terminally online and perpetually plugged into the outrage machine, I bet they would know what you are referring to.


Anyways, since we are talking about Barbie now and the thread is about outrage on the right, I just heard this morning that Ted Cruz and others on the right are losing their crap over some imaginary map of the world that has some dashes near 'China' and claiming that means the movie is pushing Chinese communist propaganda. Apparently this has been a thing for weeks now?
- The 9 dashes that Cruz refers to is something China does to claim a ton of ocean, which is contested by other countries.
- A picture of the map shows 8 dashes, not 9.
- The picture doesnt show the dashes anywhere close to other land or where the dashes are on actual Chinese maps.
- THE BARBIE MAP DOESNT EVEN HAVE EUROPE! LIKE ALL OF EUROPE DOESNT 17ing EXIST, BUT CRUZ IS TWEAKING OVER SOME DASHES.


What the absolute 17.



To be clear- no I do not think China 'owns' the area covered by the actual 9 dashes and I understand countries covered by the dashes being annoyed when the dashes are referenced with legitimacy.
Ted Cruz is really a loathsome figure. He's incredibly smart but acts like he isn't to impress the types of people who like listening to 30 minutes of fart jokes. He's one of the problems with modern politics and the need to generate outrage. I'm really supposed to be angry about a movie about Barbie and Ken? Why?
 

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I'm pretty tired of the pearl clutching over Bud Light. I'm also tired of cancel culture no matter what side is employing it. If you don't want to buy something, don't buy it. Why the need to have a bunch of other people not buying it with you? Do people need that much validation? Also, Bud Light is tragic as far as tasting like beer. It and Michelob Ultra are basically for the seltzer crowd who don't like to taste anything. Miller Lite is about the only light beer that tastes like beer.
Switch the tap handles, and you wouldn't know the difference.
 

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You say they wouldn't be doing this if they were trying to repair the damage.
...so you think they aren't trying to repair the damage? Your comment is confusing.


It was 2 people who were put on leave, to be clear. And before they were put on leave, they were receiving g death threats. Like actual threats of death...for an instagram post and product tie-in with a legal aged adult who is not breaking laws.

That really can't be glossed over- their lives were threatened multiple times.

And all this because a company is trying to do what companies are supposed to do- increased product penetration in various markets.
Other brands do the same thing and have done the same thing for years with various lgbtq+ communities.

The selective outrage would be hilarious, if it weren't so pathetic and scary.
I don't really care who they let go but they are doing things to try and get their business back. They may or may not be looking for forgiveness, but they did piss off the largest group of people who drink their beer and now they know they made a mistake. As far as Dak goes if he gets make a buck on Bud Lite mistake, I say go make it.
 

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That and how Bud Light is pushing trans agendas onto our kids. You mean the product that is illegal for anyone under the age of 21 to purchase or possess?
Yeah well, despite what you read on facebook, that's not happening. However, I do agree that beer companies market their stuff to kids, they just do it in the form of fruity, sweet versions of their offerings. Nobody gets their panties in a wad about that though.
 

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I bet if you take this to Outkick or the FoxNews comments section, you will find plenty of people who are still vocally outraged 4.5 months later.

A quick rundown of crap I care about showed this comes in at #147 right now. You should feel very good that this is what's atop your outrage list.
I never feel bad about anything you disagree with me on. It just serves to validate my opinion.
 

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Yeah well, despite what you read on facebook, that's not happening. However, I do agree that beer companies market their stuff to kids, they just do it in the form of fruity, sweet versions of their offerings. Nobody gets their panties in a wad about that though.
See. That’s what’s wrong with kids today. When I was 16 I drank Jack Daniels. Slash was their marketer.
 

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Just drink Modelo. It's apparently the #1 seller now and it's pretty good. So are Pacifico and Dos Equis. Mexican beers are good.
 
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Is the first thing we hear all the crazy statements coming from the director and actors?
I haven't heard a single thing coming from any of them. And I am willing to bet that my experience is common.
For those who are terminally online and perpetually plugged into the outrage machine, I bet they would know what you are referring to.


Anyways, since we are talking about Barbie now and the thread is about outrage on the right, I just heard this morning that Ted Cruz and others on the right are losing their crap over some imaginary map of the world that has some dashes near 'China' and claiming that means the movie is pushing Chinese communist propaganda. Apparently this has been a thing for weeks now?
- The 9 dashes that Cruz refers to is something China does to claim a ton of ocean, which is contested by other countries.
- A picture of the map shows 8 dashes, not 9.
- The picture doesnt show the dashes anywhere close to other land or where the dashes are on actual Chinese maps.
- THE BARBIE MAP DOESNT EVEN HAVE EUROPE! LIKE ALL OF EUROPE DOESNT 17ing EXIST, BUT CRUZ IS TWEAKING OVER SOME DASHES.


What the absolute 17.



To be clear- no I do not think China 'owns' the area covered by the actual 9 dashes and I understand countries covered by the dashes being annoyed when the dashes are referenced with legitimacy.


If you haven't heard anything about the movie from the director or actors about this movie, you must not read entertainment rags, so it does not matter then. I'm hoping it's a whole lot of noise and might be fun to watch online. The only problem is movies that should be targeted at kids aren't made much about kids' kinds of stories I am familiar with any longer.

I'm not going to the movie; it has nothing to do with what the people from the film are saying about gender or feminism. I'm just not going to watch 2 hrs of pretty people doing nothing. NOT MY CUP OF TEA... and most critics say it doesn't have an underlying meaning, but then some do and make a big deal about it. Not surprising to me since most modern critics wouldn't know what a good film should actually consist of.

I'm much more interested in Oppenheimer and how that movie plays out. Nick Cage has another throwaway silly but fun romp coming soon. I like silly movies. They have to be fun for someone other than themselves.
 

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Ted Cruz is really a loathsome figure. He's incredibly smart but acts like he isn't to impress the types of people who like listening to 30 minutes of fart jokes. He's one of the problems with modern politics and the need to generate outrage. I'm really supposed to be angry about a movie about Barbie and Ken? Why?
Yep. They operate just like and in tandem with the media. Zero substance and facts. Just a bunch of rage baiting and fart noises to get attention.

Idiocracy was a documentary. I'm sure of it.
 

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So it appears a great many of you are making incorrect assumptions...you know the "makes an *** out of you & me" thing.

I don't hate or dislike Dak for this. I still love the guy. I do disagree with him going this route, not because he is hurting for money, couldn't take the financial hit, etc.

But as far as the amount of money he is likely getting paid, consider there may also be a cost in terms of other potential advertising income sources may choose another spokesman not tainted with the "I support Bud Light" stigma. Have we not seen this play out for other celebs who have tried this?

Are we nor seeing others try this and face a pretty big blow to their reputations, etc.? If any of you want to downplay the very real continued GROWING backlash against Bud Light, go right ahead, but the continued escalation of sales hits, market-share loss, etc., being seen suggests you would be wrong to assume this will blow over anytime soon, if ever.

Personally, I never drank Bud Light to begin with because I have always thought it sucked, and always liked Miller Light better when that was my choice. But I admit, even if I did like or drink it before, I would drop them over this and never go back, not for animosity with DM, but because I get that it isn't really about not liking or hating Mulvaney, but that I, like half-the-country are beyond sick & tired of left-wing agendas being shoved down our throats, and in such a way as to suggest we are immoral if we resist this new Maoist-like reeducation bender Democrats are on in their never-ending thirst for unchallenged power.

I am disappointed in Dak on this because I think it was a bad business move, but also because he is almost assuredly going to take a significant reputation hit that may be permanent. Some folks don't care as much about their reputation to place it over greed, and/or the just don't give a damn what other people think. I don't think Dak is one of those.

I think he cares a great deal what others think, and I suspect he isn't doing this for the money (he has plenty of other revenue streams that have given him generational wealth). I could see him actually taking a side thinking he was going to be instrumental in some kind of societal healing or maybe even considers it a social-justice issue.

But IMO it's not a social-justice issue, it's a significant, clear message that moderates & conservatives in particular are done with being relatively passive.... are done with shaking their heads at the lunacy, but thinking it's just not worth fighting over...are done with the ridiculous propaganda machine the MSM has become and are saying "ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!". They (we) realize the left will never stop their assault on us, our ethics & morals, nearly everything we hold dear or sacred if it might buy them 1 additional vote in an election.

People are waking up to the fact that the left does not moderate. They are constantly looking to convince groups or classes of people they are victims and that the only people willing to hear them & help them are democrats. They are waking up to just how big of a threat this has become to our society, our liberties, etc,. and are no longer going to just stand by and hope it all works out on its own.

Trump's greatest appeal is that he fights back and is willing to fight dirty to counter their sleazy tactics. Conservatives finally found someone who didn't need or want to be part of the establishment... finally found someone who doesn't ultimately bend over and/or give in when "punched in the face" as James Carvill so eloquently (and effectively) put it when he helped Bill Clinton & democrats back then.


Whoa, I guess I really went off in another direction here, but dammit, I do think all this stuff ties together. Adn clearly, yes I am among those who are fed up with the left & their increasing lunacy.

Rant over.
 

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I'm pretty tired of the pearl clutching over Bud Light. I'm also tired of cancel culture no matter what side is employing it. If you don't want to buy something, don't buy it. Why the need to have a bunch of other people not buying it with you? Do people need that much validation? Also, Bud Light is tragic as far as tasting like beer. It and Michelob Ultra are basically for the seltzer crowd who don't like to taste anything. Miller Lite is about the only light beer that tastes like beer.
You think this boycott stuff is about validation? Man are you ever missing the point.
 
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