Dang, FSU looks like their whole team is quitting on them

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It’s crazy. They are still in line to finish off an undefeated season, which is a great achievement either way.
They got snubbed from the playoffs. Every other bowl is a consolation prize. No need to act any different. It’s nothing more than an exhibition game.
 
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You bring in a mercenary, he gets paid, and is now moving on to a bigger and better pay day the NFL, so he doesn't play makes sense to me when you think of their mindset.

His stats are pedestrian. He shouldn't miss any playing time period. Last chance to impress in a big bowl game.

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His stats are pedestrian. He shouldn't miss any playing time period. Last chance to impress in a big bowl game.

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Yes, sure, but maybe he doesn't believe is his QB, I don't believe in his backup QB, only so much he can show with those guys.

I'm one that said FSU should not be in the playoffs with their trash back up QB's, made sense to me, and am glad they are not in the playoffs.
 

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They got snubbed from the playoffs. Every other bowl is a consolation prize. No need to act any different. It’s nothing more than an exhibition game.
Absolutely correct. Bowls mean nothing at the FCS level anymore unless it's in the playoff. And at some point some will opt out of those for their own safety.
 
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Some are doing it on the grounds of being left out of the CFP. But if I'm an FSU fan, no matter how I feel about being excluded from the CFP, I'm not going to be happy with this response. Beating Georgia would be HUGE vindication. I think the truth is these kids - I won't call them men - suspect they don't have the team to not get their a$$e$ beat. They have opted not to show up for what they think will be an @$$-whipping.
 
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Some are doing it on the grounds of being left out of the CFP. But if I'm a FSU fan, no matter how I feel about being excluded from the CFP, I'm not going to be happy with this response. Beating Georgia would be HUGE vindication. I think the truth is these kids - I won't call them men - suspect they don't have the team to not get their a$$e$ beat. They have opted not to show up for what they think will be an @$$-whipping.
If they're scared, they should say they're scared. I think a lot of them are scared. From what little I've seen out of UGA, they seem to be taking this game seriously. I think if they win this game their current senior class will be the winningest class in program history.
 

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If they're scared, they should say they're scared. I think a lot of them are scared. From what little I've seen out of UGA, they seem to be taking this game seriously. I think if they win this game their current senior class will be the winningest class in program history.
Yep! Big difference on the way Kirby has been able to manage through this than Norvell. Also big difference in the way Kirby and UGA have handled the situation vs Norvell and FSU. Their response to it has only lead everyone to buy into the fact that no matter what happens, the result of this year will be a disappointment. And that really sucks for the seniors on this team that will spend their last time in a uniform getting the crap kicked out of them by UGA. I don’t know if it would have made a difference, but I can’t imagine Norvell and FSUs temper tantrums helped the situation at all.

Kudos to Kirby and UGA for LEADING.
 
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As funny as it is, it’s also a shame. A big time bowl game against a 1 loss 2 time defending national champion isn’t good enough for these kids.
It's time to accept that the Bowl Era is dead. Everything comes to an end at some point. It's the playoffs or bust now. The Bowls will be for the Group of 5 programs that may not have a lot of pro prospects on them. We have made excuses for not having an expanded playoffs for decades, but I have not been interested in the glorified exhibitions of bowl games for a long time. There are too many games that you can watch between September and November now. You see everyone. So, I am really not interested in USF vs Syracuse in random bowl game in December. Also, not interested in Florida State and Georgia. It's an exhibition game. So who cares if the Seminoles or Bulldogs win. There need to be some stakes in these games to draw interest. Expanded Playoff. I am all for it.
 
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Absolutely correct. Bowls mean nothing at the FCS level anymore unless it's in the playoff. And at some point some will opt out of those for their own safety.
That is a totally dumb take. I don’t even know why people buy this line of thinking. The best majority of balls in the exact same as they always did. The outback old is not with anything more or less than a man 20 years ago. Whoever was playing in that bowl was never playing for the national title. Just because some of the bowls have now been designated playoff games does absolutely nothing whatsoever to diminish the other games that were never going to involve teams contending for the title.

This is a completely stupid and senseless take and I don’t know how it keeps getting propagated by people. Nobody can ever offer any justification or rationale to support this position. They just mindlessly repeat it.

But people also listen to Taylor Swift, so what do I know?
 

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spoken like someone who’s never competed for anything.
You guys talking about complete what you started when it comes to football need to stop. Football is not going back to the times and experience that you want. You can stop watching you know. There will be others that have no problems with the changes and they will take your place. That is how life is. An era comes to an end and a new wave comes in. Not saying that it is better, but that is just how life works. A rotary phone still works. Most people don't want to use it anymore though.
 
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It's time to accept that the Bowl Era is dead. Everything comes to an end at some point. It's the playoffs or bust now. The Bowls will be for the Group of 5 programs that may not have a lot of pro prospects on them. We have made excuses for not having an expanded playoffs for decades, but I have not been interested in the glorified exhibitions of bowl games for a long time. There are too many games that you can between September and November now. You see everyone. So, I am really not interested in USF vs Syracuse in random bowl game in December. Also, not interested in Florida State and Georgia. It's an exhibition game. So who cares if the Seminoles or Bulldogs win. There need to be some stakes in these games to draw interest. Expanded Playoff. I am all for it.
I wouldn't travel to Florida, as I have several times for bowls, to see such a cheapened product.
 

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That is a totally dumb take. I don’t even know why people buy this line of thinking. The best majority of balls in the exact same as they always did. The outback old is not with anything more or less than a man 20 years ago. Whoever was playing in that bowl was never playing for the national title. Just because some of the bowls have now been designated playoff games does absolutely nothing whatsoever to diminish the other games that were never going to involve teams contending for the title.

This is a completely stupid and senseless take and I don’t know how it keeps getting propagated by people. Nobody can ever offer any justification or rationale to support this position. They just mindlessly repeat it.

But people also listen to Taylor Swift, so what do I know?
I was speaking of the players. But you go ahead and bloviate Your Highness.
 
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Absolutely correct. Bowls mean nothing at the FCS level anymore unless it's in the playoff. And at some point some will opt out of those for their own safety.
Have to agree with this, just go look at the opt-out tracker and plenty of players are in agreement! When you get right down to it, the bottom line is what are we playing for and the answer is nothing!
 

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So this is how they prove they belonged in the playoffs?? It will just give them an excuse when UGA whips them.
 
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Some are doing it on the grounds of being left out of the CFP. But if I'm a FSU fan, no matter how I feel about being excluded from the CFP, I'm not going to be happy with this response. Beating Georgia would be HUGE vindication. I think the truth is these kids - I won't call them men - suspect they don't have the team to not get their a$$e$ beat. They have opted not to show up for what they think will be an @$$-whipping.
Exactly, they could probably get a split title if they were to beat UGA.
 

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I wouldn't travel to Florida, as I have several times for bowls, to see such a cheapened product.
....and we are old King. The media sources that provide content really don't care what we think. From reading your posts, its apparent that I think a little more progressively than you do, but they don't care about what I think either. Money is going to drive this thing. Betting is going to get in the game. This is going to look a lot like professional football only with college uniforms on. That is just what is going to happen, and we old people can gripe about it all we want to. My parents who are even older are scared of computers. Won't use them. You think society cares. No. Time keeps moving on and you either adjust with the times or get left behind.
 
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....and we are old King. The media sources that provide content really don't care what we think. From reading your posts, its apparent that I think a little more progressively than you do, but they don't care about what I think either. Money is going to drive this thing. Betting is going to get in the game. This going to look a lot like professional football only with college uniforms on. That is just what is going to happen, and us all people can gripe about it all we want to. My parents who are even older are scared of computers. Won't use them. You think society cares. No. Time keeps moving on and you either adjust with the times are get left behind.
When one lays aside a template that has changed in a way that runs counter to the person's sensibilities, that person is likely helping himself in the long run.
 

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I don't think the AP or the Coach's Polls are required to vote the CFP winner as Champion. You just know there are writers who would love to vote an undefeated FSU #1 if theyvwere to beat UGA and Alabama were to win the CFO.
 

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I don't think the AP or the Coach's Polls are required to vote the CFP winner as Champion. You just know there are writers who would love to vote an undefeated FSU #1 if theyvwere to beat UGA and Alabama were to win the CFO.
If FSU won and was 14-0 and Bama or Texas won the CFP at 14-1 it would be interesting to see if the polls gave the nod to the team with a loss vs an undefeated team.
 
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That is a totally dumb take. I don’t even know why people buy this line of thinking. The best majority of balls in the exact same as they always did. The outback old is not with anything more or less than a man 20 years ago. Whoever was playing in that bowl was never playing for the national title. Just because some of the bowls have now been designated playoff games does absolutely nothing whatsoever to diminish the other games that were never going to involve teams contending for the title.

This is a completely stupid and senseless take and I don’t know how it keeps getting propagated by people. Nobody can ever offer any justification or rationale to support this position. They just mindlessly repeat it.

But people also listen to Taylor Swift, so what do I know?

I was thinking right along these lines. In the history of bowls, none of them save one or two a year were for the national title.

Nothing has changed about bowls like the outback bowl, except maybe the names or sponsors. Imo, opt outs are killing the bowls, as they've now become back-ups vs back-ups.
 

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I was thinking right along these lines. In the history of bowls, none of them save one or two a year were for the national title.

Nothing has changed about bowls like the outback bowl, except maybe the names or sponsors. Imo, opt outs are killing the bowls, as they've now become back-ups vs back-ups.
I don't see how it can go on like this. That's why, since we've regrettably and irreversibly entered the era of pay for play, contracts are now necessary to ensure service.
 
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