Dang, FSU looks like their whole team is quitting on them

KingWard

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There's your answer - instead of signing an LOI, recruits now sign enforceable NIL contracts at their chosen school with penalties limiting transfers!
...and precluding opt-outs. In the NFL, do players who are about to become free agents get to opt out of their present team's playoff games? We all know the answer to that one.
 

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It's time to accept that the Bowl Era is dead. Everything comes to an end at some point. It's the playoffs or bust now. The Bowls will be for the Group of 5 programs that may not have a lot of pro prospects on them. We have made excuses for not having an expanded playoffs for decades, but I have not been interested in the glorified exhibitions of bowl games for a long time. There are too many games that you can watch between September and November now. You see everyone. So, I am really not interested in USF vs Syracuse in random bowl game in December. Also, not interested in Florida State and Georgia. It's an exhibition game. So who cares if the Seminoles or Bulldogs win. There need to be some stakes in these games to draw interest. Expanded Playoff. I am all for it.

Sounds like you are promoting the inevitable consequence regarding the CFP, that has already taken place regarding the bowl season, and for which you have lost interest in. What happens when you lose interest in the CFP once there are "too many games that you can watch" during the CFP, and that "you see everyone" playing???
 

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...and precluding opt-outs. In the NFL, do players who are about to become free agents get to opt out of their present team's playoff games? We all know the answer to that one.
CFP has gone Pro. so it needs to work both ways.
 

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That is a totally dumb take. I don’t even know why people buy this line of thinking. The best majority of balls in the exact same as they always did. The outback old is not with anything more or less than a man 20 years ago. Whoever was playing in that bowl was never playing for the national title. Just because some of the bowls have now been designated playoff games does absolutely nothing whatsoever to diminish the other games that were never going to involve teams contending for the title.

This is a completely stupid and senseless take and I don’t know how it keeps getting propagated by people. Nobody can ever offer any justification or rationale to support this position. They just mindlessly repeat it.

But people also listen to Taylor Swift, so what do I know?
I really think your in the minority In this and viewership and interest proves it.
 

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Gamecock bowl opt out and portal transfer to FSU, Jahiem Bell opted out of the FSUs Bowl Game!

SHOCKING!!!


Shocked Snl GIF by Saturday Night Live



😂 😆
 
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As funny as it is, it’s also a shame. A big time bowl game against a 1 loss 2 time defending national champion isn’t good enough for these kids.
It's ominous for the bowl system as it is. Contracts are now necessary. If these people want to be quasi pros, then they need to be obligated in the same ways the real pros are.
 
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There's a remedy, but it breaks new ground. Without the remedy, bowls might as well be discontinued.
Lower tier bowl games have been insignificant and have survived forever, I’m not sure the playoff is going to change that, they will still be telecast and the teams hardcore fans will still travel and most of their fans will at least tune in no matter what. I’m not sure opt-outs, nil or the portal will ever change that! The only thing I could see changing that situation is either the players or the fans boycotting, and one of those wouldn’t surprise me!
 
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The attitude of these kids makes college football less appealing. Make them pay for their school classes if possible, the jerks.
 

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Lower tier bowl games have been insignificant and have survived forever, I’m not sure the playoff is going to change that, they will still be telecast and the teams hardcore fans will still travel and most of their fans will at least tune in no matter what. I’m not sure opt-outs, nil or the portal will ever change that! The only thing I could see changing that situation is either the players or the fans boycotting, and one of those wouldn’t surprise me!
Contracts. Bundle scholarships and NILs into packages and have all players sign contracts to perform. We've crossed into territory where this is not only feasible, but necessary. All of these players are older than 18. They don't need their parents to sign.
 

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spoken like someone who’s never competed for anything.
I think it has become a product of the playoffs and the portal/nil mentality. Players are thinking more in business terms and have more of a pro mindset than team pride. Training for the combine or pro day is more important than the exposure I get in a non playoff bowl. It will be kind of like Rodgers for the Jets. I will be able to play if we can make the playoffs It will get worse with the 12 team playoffs. No one is going to be interested in the other bowls unless your team is playing in them. I think power conference teams that don’t make the playoffs are going to suffer in exposure and recruiting.
 

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Contracts. Bundle scholarships and NILs into packages and have all players sign contracts to perform. We've crossed into territory where this is not only feasible, but necessary. All of these players are older than 18. They don't need their parents to sign.
That's right. Binding contracts is the only way to stop the "free agency" transfer frenzy!
They are professionals now - treat them accordingly!
 

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That's right. Binding contracts is the only way to stop the "free agency" transfer frenzy!
They are professionals now - treat them accordingly!
They're going to get their transfers, I'm afraid, but at least while they're at a school, they perform.
 

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Absolutely correct. Bowls mean nothing at the FCS level anymore unless it's in the playoff. And at some point some will opt out of those for their own safety.
Winning a national championship still means something. Plus the extreme exposure can mean a lot financially. Plus I would think the GMs would worry about someone that opt outs with a national championship on the line. Their agents will advise them to play. On the other side the teams that are not in the top four will have to play four games to win the championship and you would think most will be hard games. Teams without depth could get pretty beat up. Coaches stand to do well but the players are not getting any of the huge tv deals.
 

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Winning a national championship still means something. Plus the extreme exposure can mean a lot financially. Plus I would think the GMs would worry about someone that opt outs with a national championship on the line. Their agents will advise them to play. On the other side the teams that are not in the top four will have to play four games to win the championship and you would think most will be hard games. Teams without depth could get pretty beat up. Coaches stand to do well but the players are not getting any of the huge tv deals.
Yet.
 

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Would anyone care if they didn’t. They don’t crown the champion
They could. No different from the CFP committee selecting teams that they think are the best ones.

And the playoff is basically a simple tournament - the winner simply "won a tournament". They might not necessarily have the best team.
 
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His stats are pedestrian. He shouldn't miss any playing time period. Last chance to impress in a big bowl game.

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Maybe they just did not use him properly… I mean someone has to be the blame
 

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You guys talking about complete what you started when it comes to football need to stop. Football is not going back to the times and experience that you want. You can stop watching you know. There will be others that have no problems with the changes and they will take your place. That is how life is. An era comes to an end and a new wave comes in. Not saying that it is better, but that is just how life works. A rotary phone still works. Most people don't want to use it anymore though.
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They could. No different from the CFP committee selecting teams that they think are the best ones.

And the playoff is basically a simple tournament - the winner simply "won a tournament". They might not necessarily have the best team.
As long as the best team was in there and got to play for it, and no team was obviously unfit to be in it, I believe the committee would be home free. It's a little like The Final Four in one aspect: the best strength index team doesn't always win, but the team that hoists the trophy isn't begrudged.

When N.C. State beat Houston, people were generally giddy over it even though the best team didn't win. But the best team had its chance.
 
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Yes, sure, but maybe he doesn't believe is his QB, I don't believe in his backup QB, only so much he can show with those guys.

I'm one that said FSU should not be in the playoffs with their trash back up QB's, made sense to me, and am glad they are not in the playoffs.
Looks like they agree with the selection committee. They know they can't compete without their QB.
 
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Simply shocking that Bell would opt out (quit) on his coaches and teammates. Bowl games are losing their ‘luster’ more and more each season with opt outs and transfers. The Orange Bowl used to be a really big game each New Years….how long are fans going to spend into the $thousands to attend meaningless bowl games missing numerous key players???
 

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I think the lower tier bowls are actually some of the most entertaining to watch. The 6-6/7-5 teams that don't go to bowls every season are much more excited about playing in a bowl than the teams that missed out on the playoff because of one loss.
 

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I think the lower tier bowls are actually some of the most entertaining to watch. The 6-6/7-5 teams that don't go to bowls every season are much more excited about playing in a bowl than the teams that missed out on the playoff because of one loss.
I agree. Plus, it’s kind of fun to watch and think who might be available in the portal in a few weeks.
 

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Bowls have been irrelevant for sometime. The portal has made them so irrelevant to the point most would just rather wait a few months and go to the spring game. Today is Christmas and I haven't watched a second of one yet. College fb has some serious problems going forward that will just exponentially get worse.
 
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There's your answer - instead of signing an LOI, recruits now sign enforceable NIL contracts at their chosen school with penalties limiting transfers!
It's not so much a penalty, as that the contract will no longer be void, and one could be sued for breach of contract, should they decide to leave before the contractual time stated.
As long as a player is comfortable with those caveats then they are free to exercise their options
 

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It's not so much a penalty, as that the contract will no longer be void, and one could be sued for breach of contract, should they decide to leave before the contractual time stated.
As long as a player is comfortable with those caveats then they are free to exercise their options
Better explanation than mine.
By penalties, I meant those set forth in the contractual obligations which one would hope would be painful enough to limit those willing to break a contract.
 
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Well, FSU lost the guy who was going to start the bowl at qb, and two more starting db's. The lost a couple DLinemen and a couple WR's too. I'm sure there's more, but that's just what I remember.

That team is going to get slaughtered in the bowl.

And I wager people ignore the opt outs and argue the game will prove FSU didn't belong.
 

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Contracts. Bundle scholarships and NILs into packages and have all players sign contracts to perform. We've crossed into territory where this is not only feasible, but necessary. All of these players are older than 18. They don't need their parents to sign.
That's an interesting concept. I assume players do not have to sign legally binding NIL contracts as yet. If they were contractually bound to a school through a NIL contract, they couldn't jump ship or sit out a bowl game. Of course, this would open Pandora's box even wider. Lawyers would love it but we'd end up with even more chaos over who and how to enforce these contracts
 

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Well, FSU lost the guy who was going to start the bowl at qb, and two more starting db's. The lost a couple DLinemen and a couple WR's too. I'm sure there's more, but that's just what I remember.

That team is going to get slaughtered in the bowl.

And I wager people ignore the opt outs and argue the game will prove FSU didn't belong.
FSU is a team built with transfers. I think massive opt outs will be the rule going forward for teams who bring in lots of transfers and don't make the playoff. Portal players have very little attachment to the team they are playing for.
 
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