We have had 9 5* players all time, by composite rankings, Spurrier had 2 at once tops. Beamer just brought in two in the same class. I don't know how you evaluate a coach, but I think you're standard would require great proven success, and we won't get that. We could get a G5 coach, but it's not like that's a guarantee either. I wanted to hire Beamer because if his resume, I think you either got it or you don't, and it doesn't matter if you've been an HC before, by the tone you get that job, you'll either be good or not. Brent Key had two years as an OC before GT, and it wasn't his last job. GT is his first HC job and he got it off of his track record as a position coach and his status as AHC before that, not a 2 year blip as OC from 7 years ago.
Did we jump the gun on Brad Scott?
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According to 247 (composite) we had one 5 star in this last class.
But this probably leads to a back and forth about which recruiting ranking is better. That's not exciting.
It's interesting that you wanted Beamer because of his resume. I didn't want him for that exact reason. His resume in no way said SEC head coach.
Joe, I think a lot of us were looking for someone who had done it before as a Head Coach. In my case, maybe all of our cases, I have been around long enough to see that the only coaches who had multiple years of any decent success here were those who had been successful Head Coaches at other FBS schools. That would not guarantee they could do it again. It just means you increase your chances for success.
I'm not sure on what basis, but, I recall when he was hired here as HC, his Dad Frank compared Shane to Bobby Ross, who Frank had coached under. That would be great if Shane can do here what Bobby Ross did in his coaching career. I feel sure a statue would be erected in his honor.
The good news, in my opinion, if Shane proves to be the winner we have long wanted, is then we got a coach for the next 20 years.
I would have gone with Napier (probably losing his job) but moreso for chadwell. (Still proving himself)
I didn't want Napier. Sucked at Clemson, got caught offering Gilmore cash on camera, and we used to make sure Clemson didn't recruit our players in 2009, so crooked and not very careful.
The spread option will fail if grief in the SEC, because the DLs are too good. You don't have time to make the read, force a second defender to commit to the pitch, and then clear the line before the DL breaks free. You get one read, then you better race to the edge. RPO is the closest you can get to a working triple option with any regularity, but if you do it full time, it fails.
We learned going full time RPO under Roper and McClendon doesn't work in this league, because when the D knows what's coming, they have the talent to stop it. Remember against Florida in 2018 when we kept running in the fourth and getting stuffed? All of those were RPOs, because that was damn near all we ran. They gave a two high look, to force the run read, and then shifted a safety into the box last second to get the numbers advantage. One of the things that led to the late season offensive explosion was installing some pass plays that had no run options. Isn't that the dumbest thing you ever heard? Well, I gave faith in patience because of Roper's reputation coming in, but I was suspicious his system had serious short comings because it was hurry-up, which is gimmicky, and full- time RPO, which means we ask the defense star they want to defend every down. The Spread- option would be like that, except worse because it gives SEC DLs extra time to get a TFL. We'd hire a system HC for his system, which would absolutely fail.
I can agree Napier screams dirty. He had a better resume at the time. Just being honest that I would have taken him over Beamer. No sense in revisionist history.
I've also read almost this exact post before about chadwell. I didn't believe it then either. He's made a lot of people look silly who said he would fail at his next stop.
Imo, he's getting a shot at P4 football soon, and I think he'll succeed.
Wasn't there a poster with the name "I still hate fat Brad"?
Seems I remember him from a while back. He might be an expert on this topic.
Seems I remember him from a while back. He might be an expert on this topic.
His next stop haw never been the SEC. I haven't said he'd fail anywhere but the SEC.
Well, maybe he'll hire Beamer as a consultant wherever his next stop is.
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