I think you missed what I was saying. The 4 teams in 4 years under different coaches that you referred to really had no instability from a recruiting standpoint. That instability didn’t start until the 2019 and 2020 classes. Cohen was responsible, directly or indirectly, for just about everyone that came in the 2017 and 2018 classes except Tanner Allen. Cann had Allen in ‘18 and some ‘19 and ‘20 guys. Cohen and Lemonis both had guys in the 2019 class, too. Logan Tanner and Kamren James were all Cohen. Bednar was Lemonis, the rest were mostly Cann….and outside of those 4 that class was a massive disappointment. Lemonis guys started coming in more during 2020 and his first full class came in last year (2021 class).
2020 was a terrible class outside of Cade Smith, Kellum Clark, and Preston Johnson. Cade was Cann and Clark was mostly Cohen but officially Cann….probably was headed to MSU regardless of who the coach was. Johnson was Lem. 2019-2020 were the turmoil classes. 2021 class of Lemonis was a dud because of how horrible the pitching prospects were….and that is a big part of our current issues. 2022 class was better but still not nearly good enough to make up for absolutely nothing being brought in pitching wise in 2020-2021.
I never made any excuse for the turnover causing bad recruiting and that being an excuse for Lemonis….he’s had plenty of time to correct all that at this point. I was just pointing out that there really wasn’t much recruiting turnover from the 2016-2019 years you mentioned, because outside of Bednar, Sims, and Allen….it was still all Cohen recruits even though there were 4 different coaches.
Wonder how its known which of these guys are who? I mean its said above like this exactly how it went down, which is likely not true.
I mean every time a head coach or new coach or whatever, they are constantly recruiting guys. Who knows how many guys were on the board by any of these coaches at any time. You cant sign until your senior year of HS. If Cohen had someone committed as a freshman and left, then that staff if they wanted too and I'm sure not all of them they wanted too, would pick up the recruiting of said kid. Thus deserve credit/fault for getting that kid to campus.
example said kid commits to Cohen as a freshman, Cohen leaves. Said kids is still being openly recruited by everyone in because he hasnt signed. Cann/Next Coach/Etc gets named coach. I'm sure at the top of his list is contact the recruits. I'm sure there are some on the board where he was like yes, I like this kid, and probably a few where he was like ehhhhhh. Said Coach/Cann/Etc begins either recruiting that kid where the previous coach left off-- and signs kid/gets kid to campus--- he deserves credit for getting that kid to campus, not Cohen who was around 2-3 years ago.
The only way to really know whose was whose-- is if someone flipped late after a coaching change-- like Allen with Cann. Or kids leave immediatley after coach is named--- which i dont recall anyone of name that up and left because of either coaching changes.
Most high school kids primarly committing to their universtiy of choice and the SEC level of baseball not necessiarly a coach. Hence why when cohen left we didnt lose any that I can remember. Same with when Cann left, and same will happen when Lemo leaves or gets canned
