Elon's new toy

The Peeper

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E-car sales have been a flop across the country even with incentives. Are we to believe that Americans are going to invest in these? We are lazy 17s though so they may turn out to be the best things since canned beer and sliced bread
 
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mstateglfr

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Still waiting for that self driving car he promised in like 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023...well like over a dozen times in the last decade.
I swear he has promised it is 'nearly complete' more times than I have fingers.


Meanwhile, we talk about computer generated/edited clips of what a robot may be able to someday do.
 

Dawgzilla2

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E-car sales have been a flop across the country even with incentives. Are we to believe that Americans are going to invest these? We are lazy 17s though so they may turn out to be the best things since canned beer and sliced bread.
"Flop" seems like a harsh assessment. EV sales continue to climb across the country, but they are still less than 10% of auto sales. Hard to see them dominating the market within 10 years.

I can't imagine a robot like that selling for under $30,000. But, yeah, I actually see a robot that can take on household chores generating more consumer excitement than EVs. EVs have to compete with ICE vehicles. This robot competes with.....your kids? A butler? It really creates it's own niche market.
 
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Dawghouse

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"Flop" seems like a harsh assessment. EV sakes continue to climb across the country, but they are still less than 10% of auto sales. Hard to see them dominating the market within 10 years.

I can't imagine a robot like that selling for under $30,000. But, yeah, I actually see a robot that can take on household chores generating more consumer excitement than EVs. EVs have to compete with ICE vehicles. This robot competes with.....your kids? A butler? It really creates it's own niche market.
20-30 was the quoted price.

those driverless taxis at 30k would be quite an investment but how many justifications are ready to allow them?
 

Dawgzilla2

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Still waiting for that self driving car he promised in like 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023...well like over a dozen times in the last decade.
I swear he has promised it is 'nearly complete' more times than I have fingers.


Meanwhile, we talk about computer generated/edited clips of what a robot may be able to someday do.
Who really wants self driving cars anyway? Turning 16 and going straight to the DMV to get my license was one of the greatest days of my life. Why would I give that freedom away? I love driving.

On those occasions when I shouldn't drive, there's Uber. Those guys need the money more than the car companies do.
 
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8dog

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20-30 was the quoted price.

those driverless taxis at 30k would be quite an investment but how many justifications are ready to allow them?
Austin TX will. Because I got behind one. Amazing.
 

Dawgzilla2

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20-30 was the quoted price.
I know, and that seems unlikely. Maybe the base trim, with slow charging, cheap plastic, and limited AI. The model you want taking care of your elderly parents will cost a lot more.
 

Willow Grove Dawg

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Still waiting for that self driving car he promised in like 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023...well like over a dozen times in the last decade.
I swear he has promised it is 'nearly complete' more times than I have fingers.


Meanwhile, we talk about computer generated/edited clips of what a robot may be able to someday do.
Morgan & Morgan cannot wait for it either
 

Dawghouse

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I know, and that seems unlikely. Maybe the base trim, with slow charging, cheap plastic, and limited AI. The model you want taking care of your elderly parents will cost a lot more.
Be cheaper than home health over time. Insurance might even cover a rental unit.

I hadn't even considered them as home health replacements but I wouldn't mind having a beer fetcher when I get older.
 
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Dawghouse

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I hope they can make that brain chip work for paralyzed people. That is really top science stuff.

I havn't seen any updates from the 2nd person who got it but I know patient 1 is thrilled. I imagine they'll improve 1000 fold before they finally get approved for mass use.
 

TaleofTwoDogs

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Let's see, 50 -100 years to mass produce (in China) but will face 20 zillion law suits in the USA, union strikes, KKK type lynching of the robots, criminal charges filed against robot gangsta activity, unfair NIL offers, and sham robot marriages in Mexico.

Did I miss anything? Progress, ain't it grand.
 

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E-car sales have been a flop across the country even with incentives. Are we to believe that Americans are going to invest these? We are lazy 17s though so they may turn out to be the best things since canned beer and sliced bread
They'll be there one day, but until the infrastructure is there to fully charge a battery in 30 minutes or less, they simply won't be practical.
 

PhredPhantom

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They'll be there one day, but until the infrastructure is there to fully charge a battery in 30 minutes or less, they simply won't be practical.
I’ve been owning and driving Tesla cars for about 4 years now. I currently own two and a regular 2012 Ford F-150 Lariat pickup plus various and sundry other vehicles and modes of transportation.

I’ve traveled from home in Mississippi to most of the southeastern U.S. (including Indiana, Tennessee, and Virginia) in my Tesla cars and have never needed to charge longer than 25 minutes at Supercharger stations - usually 20 minutes or less. The Tesla charging infrastructure is here now, has been since about 2013, and it keeps getting better all the time.

It takes me longer to charge when I charge at home (where most of my charging is done when not on trips) but that works out fine because my daily driving is seldom more than 200 a day. If I’m going further than that, there is usually a supercharger somewhere near I am going. For daily local driving I just go where I need to go and plug it up when I park at home that night and the next morning when I go out of the house it’s charged up and ready to go with no trip to a gas station required.

Having said all that, I’m not trying to sell anyone on Teslas or other EVs. I literally don’t care if you buy one or not. If you don’t want them, don’t need them, or they’re not right for you for any reason - don’t get one. It’s as simple as that. Same reason I don’t own a school bus, for example. I like my Teslas but they are not necessarily right or good for everyone.

Do your research, be informed, and then make an informed and rational (not emotional) decision. Just because they’re not right for you doesn’t mean they aren’t right for someone else. That’s why Blue Bell Ice Cream comes in chocolate *and* vanilla.
 

WilCoDawg

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Still waiting for that self driving car he promised in like 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023...well like over a dozen times in the last decade.
I swear he has promised it is 'nearly complete' more times than I have fingers.


Meanwhile, we talk about computer generated/edited clips of what a robot may be able to someday do.
He’s closer to accomplishing it than you.
 

mstateglfr

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He’s closer to accomplishing it than you.
Odd defense. Like really desperate response.
For this to be a good point, you have to be willing to not criticize others who are part of the group in their industry that is leading innovation.

So Wilco, are you willing to play by that?
 

mstateglfr

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Who really wants self driving cars anyway? Turning 16 and going straight to the DMV to get my license was one of the greatest days of my life. Why would I give that freedom away? I love driving.

On those occasions when I shouldn't drive, there's Uber. Those guys need the money more than the car companies do.

Based on the stock price and it's surges, a lot of investors really want the technology.
 

dog12

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Still waiting for that self driving car he promised in like 2015, 2016, 2018, 2019, 2021, 2022, 2023...well like over a dozen times in the last decade.
I swear he has promised it is 'nearly complete' more times than I have fingers.


Meanwhile, we talk about computer generated/edited clips of what a robot may be able to someday do.
You make valid points.

However, what you've described is the inventive process for new technology. (my opinion)

Invention is most often an iterative process that takes years to reach a particular level/capability.

Also, as new technology is being developed, people often like to talk about it and/or analyze and critque it. Improvements result from these discussions.

We likely won't solve all the issues with this robot today on SixPack, but it's fun to talk about it.
 
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onewoof

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I so much enjoy watching the weak and lazy attack those getting results. It's pitiful really, and I should not enjoy their grovelling, but I do. It is the epitemy of admiting defeat and being overcome with envy.
 
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