Expansion/Realignment Talk Heating Up Again

[KingWard]

This is a pay site but they are getting some play on Google and other outlets. If Oregon and Washington bolt for the Big 10 (announcement "around Memorial Day"" is suggested here), - it's going to be really on as the Big 12 goes after the Arizona schools and Colorado. I don't see the SEC sitting the next round out, but that's just me. https://realdawghuskies.com/. If TV money is reaching saturation, the SEC schools will come out better if the conference stays at 16. It could get intriguing.

 

[TN-Gamecock]

If the B10 takes UO and UW, it would make sense for them to take Cal & Stanford. By not taking Cal/Stanford, my guess is they want UVA/UNC to get a foothold in the south.

At this point, the SEC should move on UNC/UVA....lock up all the Flagship State Universities of the South.

It just makes me cringe to think we could be back in a conference with UNC...ugh!!!

 

[18IsTheMan]

Whatever happens with the ACC, it can’t be done by picking off 2 schools. There would have to be a move en masse to overcome the GOR, if it’s even possible.

 

[KingWard]

Whatever happens with the ACC, it can’t be done by picking off 2 schools. There would have to be a move en masse to overcome the GOR, if it’s even possible.

Maybe an All-Out merger with the ACC that kicks the little schools to the curb. That's about all I could see.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

Maybe an All-Out merger with the ACC that kicks the little schools to the curb. That's about all I could see.

If a Virginia and a NC school joins the SEC, that undermines Beamer’s Delmarva plan. But I don’t see how the SEC expands its footprint without going into those 2 states.

 

[gamecock stock]

If a Virginia and a NC school joins the SEC, that undermines Beamer’s Delmarva plan. But I don’t see how the SEC expands its footprint without going into those 2 states.

I've been out of the loop. What is "Beamer's Delmarva plan"?

The SEC NEEDS to get into the states of NC and VA, imho.

 

[Cackmandu]

I've been out of the loop. What is "Beamer's Delmarva plan"?

The SEC NEEDS to get into the states of NC and VA, imho.

I believe that would be heavily recruiting Delaware, Maryland and Virginia.

 

[Atlanta Cock]

I've been out of the loop. What is "Beamer's Delmarva plan"?

The SEC NEEDS to get into the states of NC and VA, imho.

His recruiting has expanded into that area, which we’ve never really done before. Other than UT, we’re the closet SEC school but we have the Beamer name which is well known there.

 

[Anon1658788697]

If a Virginia and a NC school joins the SEC, that undermines Beamer’s Delmarva plan. But I don’t see how the SEC expands its footprint without going into those 2 states.

I just don’t think it’s about foot print anymore. With streaming platforms and every game being on tv, it’s about matchups and brands.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Whatever happens with the ACC, it can’t be done by picking off 2 schools. There would have to be a move en masse to overcome the GOR, if it’s even possible.

It won't be two.
The GOR is problematic but not considered insurmountable.

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

This is a pay site but they are getting some play on Google and other outlets. If Oregon and Washington bolt for the Big 10 (announcement "around Memorial Day"" is suggested here), - it's going to be really on as the Big 12 goes after the Arizona schools and Colorado. I don't see the SEC sitting the next round out, but that's just me. https://realdawghuskies.com/. If TV money is reaching saturation, the SEC schools will come out better if the conference stays at 16. It could get intriguing.

The bigger news is coming from ACC Spring Meetings in Amelia Island.
"The Silent 7"

 

[KingWard]

The bigger news is coming from ACC Spring Meetings in Amelia Island.
"The Silent 7"

I wish you would elaborate on that a little bit.

 

[KingWard]

If a Virginia and a NC school joins the SEC, that undermines Beamer’s Delmarva plan. But I don’t see how the SEC expands its footprint without going into those 2 states.

That makes sense to me also.

 

[Anon1658788697]

I wish you would elaborate on that a little bit.

7 schools in the ACC have been in discussions with each other on how to go about breaking the GOR and have been meeting with legal counsel. This all according to internet reports so……


It is said that the same 4-6 schools are still asking for unequal revenue sharing. Smaller schools are not going for it and tensions are growing.

There is also a report of talks of a possible 60 team league stating to be discussed.


That sums up most of the new rumors

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

7 schools in the ACC have been in discussions with each other on how to go about breaking the GOR and have been meeting with legal counsel. This all according to internet reports so……


It is said that the same 4-6 schools are still asking for unequal revenue sharing. Smaller schools are not going for it and tensions are growing.

There is also a report of talks of a possible 60 team league stating to be discussed.


That sums up most of the new rumors

60 team league are part of the rumors.

The "Silent 7" reference occurred yesterday after the meetings adjourned for the evening. 6 AD's and ACC comish Jim Phillips walked out and refused to talk to the press. Main topic was to introduce new Revenue Distribution. That is the official line.

Unofficially there are more levels to the discussions.

 

[Lurker123]

7 schools in the ACC have been in discussions with each other on how to go about breaking the GOR and have been meeting with legal counsel. This all according to internet reports so……


It is said that the same 4-6 schools are still asking for unequal revenue sharing. Smaller schools are not going for it and tensions are growing.

There is also a report of talks of a possible 60 team league stating to be discussed.


That sums up most of the new rumors

This guy names the 7.

 

[muscleknight]

I just want the worst scenario for Clemson. I would love to see them left out in the cold.

 

[KingWard]

This guy names the 7.

If the B1G is going bigger, then the SEC could use this to its advantage and keep the league contiguous, unlike the monstrosity that the B1G is becoming.

 

[KingWard]

60 team league are part of the rumors.

The "Silent 7" reference occurred yesterday after the meetings adjourned for the evening. 6 AD's and ACC comish Jim Phillips walked out and refused to talk to the press. Main topic was to introduce new Revenue Distribution. That is the official line.

Unofficially there are more levels to the discussions.

60-team league seems absurd.

 

[Gamecock Jacque]

60-team league seems absurd.

It sure does lol.

 

[18IsTheMan]

60-team league seems absurd.

If it seems absurd, that means it's probably going to happen.

If you list 100 options, arranged from least absurd to most absurd, the powers-that-be will pick #100. Every time.

 

[Lurker123]

I agree that a 60 team league seems absurd, but I swear it's going to end up in "pods" that very closely resemble the old regional conferences once its done.

It'll just be under one big conference.

 

[18IsTheMan]

I agree that a 60 team league seems absurd, but I swear it's going to end up in "pods" that very closely resemble the old regional conferences once its done.

It'll just be under one big conference.

I have actually heard this before and it's pretty amusing to think that we might go through all this realignment just to be aligned how it used to be.

 

[KingWard]

If it seems absurd, that means it's probably going to happen.

If you list 100 options, arranged from least absurd to most absurd, the powers-that-be will pick #100. Every time.

I suspect not in this case. Rivalry and some continuity are important in college football.

 

[KingWard]

I have actually heard this before and it's pretty amusing to think that we might go through all this realignment just to be aligned how it used to be.

It's almost as convoluted as changing the clock rules to undo what was considered desirable for three decades - and which worked well. Now, we're going to receive less content so that video reviews can remain interminable. .

 

[18IsTheMan]

I suspect not in this case. Rivalry and some continuity are important in college football.

I tend to agree, but many in our fan base on this very forum have said they would gladly give up the series with Clemson if it means keeping Clemson out of the SEC. I suspect there's a good bit of internet forum hyperbole mixed in with some of those responses, but you would think USC and Clemson fans would defend maintaining the rivalry at all costs.

 

[Anon1658788697]

I just want the worst scenario for Clemson. I would love to see them left out in the cold.

Won’t happen. It’s not about tv markets as much as it is brands. They bring too many eyes to big time matchups.

 

[Anon1658788697]

I have actually heard this before and it's pretty amusing to think that we might go through all this realignment just to be aligned how it used to be.

Makes total sense. The conferences with the largest bank so to say of teams will be able to control and write the rules of the new league.

 

[KingWard]

I tend to agree, but many in our fan base on this very forum have said they would gladly give up the series with Clemson if it means keeping Clemson out of the SEC. I suspect there's a good bit of internet forum hyperbole mixed in with some of those responses, but you would think USC and Clemson fans would defend maintaining the rivalry at all costs.

Craven dumb@$$e$.

 

[atl-cock]

I just want the worst scenario for Clemson. I would love to see them left out in the cold.

But not at our expense.

 

[18IsTheMan]

But not at our expense.

And bingo was his name-o.

 

[atl-cock]

It's almost like replacing the NCAA.

 

[18IsTheMan]

But not at our expense.

Some of our fans are delusional in thinking that Clemson is going to get left out in the cold in the realignment arms race. It just isn't going to happen. They are too much of a football commodity. The WILL end up somewhere, if not the SEC, then the Big 10. So, either way, they are going to end up getting paid. It benefits us more to have them in the SEC.

I don't know how any of this happens with the GOR, but there is too much sporadic noise about it for it to not eventually happen.

 

[Tngamecock]

If it seems absurd, that means it's probably going to happen.

If you list 100 options, arranged from least absurd to most absurd, the powers-that-be will pick #100. Every time.

Pretty soon, if you’re going to have 60 team leagues, you might as well make it 120 team leagues, and call it the NCAA. Calling yourself a
conference and including everyone is sort of comical.

 

[Tngamecock]

Some of our fans are delusional in thinking that Clemson is going to get left out in the cold in the realignment arms race. It just isn't going to happen. They are too much of a football commodity. The WILL end up somewhere, if not the SEC, then the Big 10. So, either way, they are going to end up getting paid. It benefits us more to have them in the SEC.

I don't know how any of this happens with the GOR, but there is too much sporadic noise about it for it to not eventually happen.

Looking forward to the big Tater vs Purdue game each year

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Some of our fans are delusional in thinking that Clemson is going to get left out in the cold in the realignment arms race. It just isn't going to happen. They are too much of a football commodity. The WILL end up somewhere, if not the SEC, then the Big 10. So, either way, they are going to end up getting paid. It benefits us more to have them in the SEC.

I don't know how any of this happens with the GOR, but there is too much sporadic noise about it for it to not eventually happen.

Louisville just joined the "7" in the ACC talks. That now makes 8.
A whole new dynamic in regards to the GOR enforcement, or with 8 schools now joined together, the GOR either becomes too weak or completely neutered.
Many on here are going to be surprised as to what is coming, not imminent but sooner than many think.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Louisville just joined the "7" in the ACC talks. That now makes 8.
A whole new dynamic in regards to the GOR enforcement, or with 8 schools now joined together, the GOR either becomes too weak or completely neutered.
Many on here are going to be surprised as to what is coming, not imminent but sooner than many think.

Obviously, I've never read the GOR, so I don't know how it changes things if enough schools band together. Even if all 15 banded together, the ACC still has rights to their TV revenue. Unless there is a clause in the GOR that makes it null and void if enough schools band together to leave the conference, but if it was that simple, i have to think it would have been done by now.

I'm still sure it's going to happen; I just don't know how it's possible with the GOR. Supposedly, UNC had lawyers comb through it syllable-by-syllable and they came away saying it was ironclad.

 

[Cocky99]

Keep Pickens County Clemson right there in the sleepy ACC where they are belong!

 

[Harvard Gamecock]

Obviously, I've never read the GOR, so I don't know how it changes things if enough schools band together. Even if all 15 banded together, the ACC still has rights to their TV revenue. Unless there is a clause in the GOR that makes it null and void if enough schools band together to leave the conference, but if it was that simple, i have to think it would have been done by now.

I'm still sure it's going to happen; I just don't know how it's possible with the GOR. Supposedly, UNC had lawyers comb through it syllable-by-syllable and they came away saying it was ironclad.

I'm going to quote myself from post #10. "It is problematic, but not insurmountable."

Side note: It could be crippling for one or 2 schools HOWEVER,
Should 8 schools leave en masse, the dissolution of the ACC would be imminent, therefore any contracts would be to an entity that no longer exists.

Maryland left early, and did not pay nearly the amount of the exit fee that was in place at the time.

 

[KingWard]

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