FC: Decision to go for it on 4th?

[Midnighter]

One score game at that point at 7+ minutes (and three timeouts) left - our D has been stingy all day but Franklin says punting there gives OSU too much opportunity to kill the clock and end the game. Our O to that point had not converted a first down either. Punting gives OSU a longer field to work with and with some luck we can pin them back a bit.

Agree or disagree with Franklin’s call to go for it (led to a TD for OSU)?

 

[doctornick]

Fine with going for it. Disagree with the plays calls on 3rd and 4th down if that is the plan

 

[Midnighter]

Fine with going for it. Disagree with the plays calls on 3rd and 4th down if that is the plan

This is fair - I would mind much less if we were moving the ball a bit. We just weren’t. D seemed to be playing very well and maybe they rise to the occasion? Also agree no rhythm to the play calling - janky is the word that comes to mind.

 

[BobPSU92]

I didn’t like the call, but I like little and understand even less.

 

[JoeBot409]

Fine with going for it. Disagree with the plays calls on 3rd and 4th down if that is the plan

The play call on 3rd was the wrong call. Franklin has no clue what he is doing on game day. Game plan non existent. He has terrible instincts. I personally would have punted. They turned over on downs in field goal range. Failure to convert effectively ended the game with 7:22 on the clock.

 

[Midnighter]

Ouch - just saw this.

 

[StamfordBridgeVikingatLeftOffensiveTackle]

Ouch - just saw this.

Michael James calls himself a "professional instigator." Seems like a real piece of work.

 

[bbrown]

Ouch - just saw this.

and who is that person?

 

[Midnighter]

and who is that person?

Dunno. Probably a rando. But everyone can see that.

 

[Catch1lion]

I didn’t like the call, but I like little and understand even less.

Coach Urlen Myer-Flask would have had better team chemistry. He does have glassy eyes like LaKavoisier though .

 

[DandyDonII]

Didn't like the decision to go for it, considering how well our offense was playing, much better option to punt and hope defense forces turnover to shorten the field...

However, if you are going to go for it on 4th, run it on third......

 

[BostonNit]

However, if you are going to go for it on 4th, run it on third......

This ^^^^^^^^.

Of course this assumes the play calling is not being done with a Magic 8-ball.

 

[BobPSU92]

and who is that person?

Any of a number of people here.

 

[PSUFBFAN]

One score game at that point at 7+ minutes (and three timeouts) left - our D has been stingy all day but Franklin says punting there gives OSU too much opportunity to kill the clock and end the game. Our O to that point had not converted a first down either. Punting gives OSU a longer field to work with and with some luck we can pin them back a bit.

Agree or disagree with Franklin’s call to go for it (led to a TD for OSU)?

Brutally bad call - one of his worst ever. Our offense was 0 for 12 on third down conversions at that time and there was no indication in the prior 53 minutes of play that they were capable of picking up that first down. Yet, it was still a one score game. The defense was playing great. The most reasonable play was to punt and put OSU deep in their own territory. Perhaps the defense comes up with a turnover or more likely, we get the ball back in decent field position a couple of minutes later (plenty of time on the clock at 7:00+) down 7 pts.

Instead, we turn the ball over to OSU who only needs to pick up about 15 yards to put themselves in fg position, make it a 2 score game, and the ballgame is over. There was no way that offense yesterday was going to score twice in the last 5 minutes unless some ridiculous miracle occurred. Of course, we let them score a TD which really iced the game.

 

[Grass]

You punt and it's a no brainer with how bad the offense was playing. Chances are that Day plays it conservative and just tries to run it and rely on his defense to seal the game especially if they are deep in their own territory.

 

[Midnighter]

You punt and it's a no brainer with how bad the offense was playing. Chances are that Day plays it conservative and just tries to run it and rely on his defense to seal the game especially if they are deep in their own territory.

Yeah - he wasn’t showing much of an appetite for risky play - he took a knee into the half with a minute left and three time outs.

 

[Nitt1300]

Bad, bad call born of desperation

 

[Bvillebaron]

Didn't like the decision to go for it, considering how well our offense was playing, much better option to punt and hope defense forces turnover to shorten the field...

However, if you are going to go for it on 4th, run it on third......

Yep

 

[GregPSU]

One score game at that point at 7+ minutes (and three timeouts) left - our D has been stingy all day but Franklin says punting there gives OSU too much opportunity to kill the clock and end the game. Our O to that point had not converted a first down either. Punting gives OSU a longer field to work with and with some luck we can pin them back a bit.

Agree or disagree with Franklin’s call to go for it (led to a TD for OSU)?

One score game at that point at 7+ minutes (and three timeouts) left - our D has been stingy all day but Franklin says punting there gives OSU too much opportunity to kill the clock and end the game. Our O to that point had not converted a first down either. Punting gives OSU a longer field to work with and with some luck we can pin them back a bit.

Agree or disagree with Franklin’s call to go for it (led to a TD for OSU)?

DISagree. over 7 minutes in the game is no time to be in panic mode. What's Franklin's record on these decisions? Not very good if my memory is right. I watched two more coaches do the same thing yesterday twice in both games. They all were a collective 0-5. Tenn used that strategy to give up their lead with plenty of game left. Crazier than Franklin.

 

[ILLINOISLION]

A panicked desperation pathetic decision. The punting game was good, the D had given up only 3 pts in the second half and honestly there was a better chance of the D scoring after the punt than the O converting.

Failing to convert meant tOSU was within 15 yards of FG range and the opportunity to make it a two score game.

Sad, one of his worst game decisions in his long list of very questionable in game calls.

 

[Nitt1300]

I think the worst non-call was failing to make a QB change at the end of the third quarter.

 

[WestSideLion]

I think the worst non-call was failing to make a QB change at the end of the third quarter.

They should have at least seen what Pribula might do as a mobile threat back there. Sometimes you just need a spark to get things going. It wouldn’t mean Allar isn’t your starter vs Indiana, etc.

 

[baltimorened]

One score game at that point at 7+ minutes (and three timeouts) left - our D has been stingy all day but Franklin says punting there gives OSU too much opportunity to kill the clock and end the game. Our O to that point had not converted a first down either. Punting gives OSU a longer field to work with and with some luck we can pin them back a bit.

Agree or disagree with Franklin’s call to go for it (led to a TD for OSU)?

disagreed with the call 100%. we hadn't converted 3rd or 4th downs all day..7 minutes left on the clock..punt, keep them far back on their side of the field, we get the ball back with 3 1/2 minutes with at least a chance to tie. We gave them the ball at our 43 yard line....that made no sense to me.........

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Coach Urlen Myer-Flask would have had better team chemistry. He does have glassy eyes like LaKavoisier though .

Wut

 

[maypole]

Punt!

 

[razpsu]

It was at the tippy top of the worst of franklins bad calls to go for it or timeouts.
rookie qb pinned deep with our defense with a must drive. So many variables in play and yet with one call franklin blew the game. He is so damn impatient. At this point you would think someone would say to him no!!

 

[OptionBob]

It was at the tippy top of the worst of franklins bad calls to go for it or timeouts.
rookie qb pinned deep with our defense with a must drive. So many variables in play and yet with one call franklin blew the game. He is so damn impatient. At this point you would think someone would say to him no!!

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That's a very good point. He is always talking about how the major decisions are made by "committee" (so to speak), such as medical staff on player returns or staff meetings in self-scouting.

So on game days, does he allow access to decisions by staff or analysts (IDK whether or not they are allowed access to him, but he certainly needs their advice)?

But geez, 4th and 30 with the defense playing well, he doesn't punt? If this game had been one of those 48-45 Big 12 type games where every possession is a score, then maybe ... maybe ... go for it. I just don't understand his thinking.

 

[CbusLion]

Bad, bad call born of desperation

Meh, probably right to be desperate at that point. 4th qtr and had to probably score twice to actually win the game, they were on the ropes at that point. I didn't like the call either, but moreso disliked the 3rd down call as others have pointed out.

QB was spooked, hard to win a game against a top team with that.

 

[BW Lion]

One score game at that point at 7+ minutes (and three timeouts) left - our D has been stingy all day but Franklin says punting there gives OSU too much opportunity to kill the clock and end the game. Our O to that point had not converted a first down either. Punting gives OSU a longer field to work with and with some luck we can pin them back a bit.

Agree or disagree with Franklin’s call to go for it (led to a TD for OSU)?

I was just proud of Fraudklin for not doing something equally stupid earlier in the game.

It wasn’t that he didn’t think about doing so, but the combo of burning a TO and more sane sideline opinions thankfully prevailed.

 

[Connorpozlee]

Brutally bad call - one of his worst ever. Our offense was 0 for 12 on third down conversions at that time and there was no indication in the prior 53 minutes of play that they were capable of picking up that first down. Yet, it was still a one score game. The defense was playing great. The most reasonable play was to punt and put OSU deep in their own territory. Perhaps the defense comes up with a turnover or more likely, we get the ball back in decent field position a couple of minutes later (plenty of time on the clock at 7:00+) down 7 pts.

Instead, we turn the ball over to OSU who only needs to pick up about 15 yards to put themselves in fg position, make it a 2 score game, and the ballgame is over. There was no way that offense yesterday was going to score twice in the last 5 minutes unless some ridiculous miracle occurred. Of course, we let them score a TD which really iced the game.

I agree with this completely.