FC: Huskers are so hot right now....(recruiting)....

HarrisburgDave

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How so? I'd say the qb outlook for 2024 is as gloomy as this past season and the league is only going to get tougher. Freshmen qb's don't work. On top of that, they are now pinning their hopes on a kid who attended 4 high schools and made 3 college commitments.
Freshmen QBs don't work?

Johnny Manziel? Sam Bradford? Jameis Winston? Dan Marino? Tommy Frazier? Peyton Manning? Jamelle Holieway? Chad Henne? Terrelle Pryor? Robert Griffin III? J.T. Barrett? Jalen Hurts? Trevor Lawrence?

You might want to rethink that idea.
 
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HarrisburgDave

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How is that list of two dozen guys to replace Franklin coming along? It's been a few weeks so I assume you have made some headway.
When the time comes finding another bottom feeding type will be no problem. Since so many other schools (Washington, Oklahoma, Georgia, TCU, Michigan, Texas, tOSU, etc.) have hired coaches since Penn State hired Bottom Feeder and seen them take them to the playoffs or national championship games, Kraft should be able to find someone. That's what he is paid for.

I don't understand the difficulty you Franklin fan boys think it will be to find a successful replacement. It is not like Bottom Feeder has all these conference championships and playoff appearances to match, or anything better than an awful W/L record against ranked opponents. A new coach will also not face having a predecessor with many memorable achievements. Bottom Feeder has seen to that.
 
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LB99

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Freshmen QBs don't work?

Johnny Manziel? Sam Bradford? Jameis Winston? Dan Marino? Tommy Frazier? Peyton Manning? Jamelle Holieway? Chad Henne? Terrelle Pryor? Robert Griffin III? J.T. Barrett? Jalen Hurts? Trevor Lawrence?

You might want to rethink that idea.
🤣You’re bringing up guys from 30-40 yrs ago.
 

HarrisburgDave

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🤣You’re bringing up guys from 30-40 yrs ago.
Manziel? Bradford? Winston? Lawrence? Hurts? J.T. Barrett? They all won Heismans or were all conference or AA quarterbacks as freshmen in the past ten years. Huh?

Yes I bring other quarterbacks up from over the decades to show how ignorant the comment about freshman quarterbacks "not working" is.
 
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When the time comes finding another bottom feeding type will be no problem. Since so many other schools (Washington, Oklahoma, Georgia, TCU, Michigan, Texas, tOSU, etc.) have hired coaches since Penn State hired Bottom Feeder and seen them take them to the playoffs or national championship games, Kraft should be able to find someone. That's what he is paid for.

I don't understand the difficulty you Franklin fan boys think it will be to find a successful replacement. It is not like Bottom Feeder has all these conference championships and playoff appearances to match, or anything better than an awful W/L record against ranked opponents. A new coach will also not face having a predecessor with many memorable achievements. Bottom Feeder has seen to that.
Your post wreaks of jealousy and age. Let me guess, you don’t believe in NIL either?

Franklins about to win 11 games for the fifth time in 10 years…..including the Cotton, Rose and Fiesta bowls. Choke on it.
 

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Manziel? Bradford? Winston? Lawrence? Hurts? J.T. Barrett? They all won Heismans or were all conference or AA quarterbacks as freshmen in the past ten years. Huh?

Yes I bring other quarterbacks up from over the decades to show how ignorant the comment about freshman quarterbacks "not working" is.
The game has changed dramatically since then. You’re living in the past.
 

HarrisburgDave

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Your post wreaks of jealousy and age. Let me guess, you don’t believe in NIL either?

Franklins about to win 11 games for the fifth time in 10 years…..including the Cotton, Rose and Fiesta bowls. Choke on it.
No, I do not "believe" in NIL. I do not think the current system is sustainable. It will either collapse, or the top tier programs will break away and adopt a system of paid employee/athletes. What was college football, a system providing opportunity and so appealing to fan bases across the country, is near death. We are not better for it.

As for Bottom Feeder I know you love all his victories over lower tier programs. There sure have been precious few over ranked opponents. And all those playoff appearances? Remember those? And all those conference championships? Oh, just the one, but you get my point.
 

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They do have some distractions....the good kind.





ehhh..they look like they came to Nebraska via the transfer portal
 
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LB99

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Changed dramatically? How many freshmen quarterbacks over the past three years have been Heisman contenders, all conference, or AA?
You tell me. Do your own homework. I’m not doing it for you. Your conversation included Dan Marino for reference.
 

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And is the top QB in the class. I assume they’d rather not have him? They’re not playing for ‘next year’ - this is about laying a foundation for program building.
It just wasn't the best case scenario for them. The best case scenario would have been getting a qb with a pulse out of the portal for next year but my hunch is the hotshot freshmen is only going there because of the lack of competition. Nebraska might be the only power 5 program with zero returning qb talent.
 

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Great comeback. Stay ignorant and defend ignorance. It is what you do.
Ignorance is not realizing the way game has changed. The original commenter had a valid point. The more successful QBs this year were older QBs.
 

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Freshmen QBs don't work?

Johnny Manziel? Sam Bradford? Jameis Winston? Dan Marino? Tommy Frazier? Peyton Manning? Jamelle Holieway? Chad Henne? Terrelle Pryor? Robert Griffin III? J.T. Barrett? Jalen Hurts? Trevor Lawrence?

You might want to rethink that idea.
And I could list 50 to every one of those guys that were a disaster starting as a freshmen. And we're not talking about Ohio State or Georgia level skill talent around him
 

HarrisburgDave

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Ignorance is not realizing the way game has changed. The original commenter had a valid point. The more successful QBs this year were older QBs.
His point was ignorant of facts. It was demonstrably wrong. I named freshman quarterbacks over three generations, including the current era, whose performance showed the observation was wrong. I did not name a comprehensive list, they would be too numerable to include. You chose to insert yourself with comments motivated by who knows what? When you were shown to be making foolish statements you doubled down on them. Good grief, you are nothing if not consistent.
 

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And I could list 50 to every one of those guys that were a disaster starting as a freshmen. And we're not talking about Ohio State or Georgia level skill talent around him
Just give it up. You were wrong. You were shown to be wrong. You continue to defend an ignorant statement. There have been freshman at many second and third tier programs, even in the past two years, who have been outstanding. We can name senior quarterbacks who stunk. Does that mean seniors "don't work."?
 

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His point was ignorant of facts. It was demonstrably wrong. I named freshman quarterbacks over three generations, including the current era, whose performance showed the observation was wrong. I did not name a comprehensive list, they would be too numerable to include. You chose to insert yourself with comments motivated by who knows what? When you were shown to be making foolish statements you doubled down on them. Good grief, you are nothing if not consistent.
“Demonstrably” Big word. I should rethink my opinion. You are clearly correct.
 

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I don't know if it is such a stretch. James Carville described Pennsylvania as "Pittsburgh and Philadelphia with Alabama in between". We have had the citizens of Central PA described as "deplorables" and people who "hug their guns and their bibles." In a place where the first day of deer season is a holiday it is not like the area is a cultural hot bed or center of athletic achievement.
I'm proud to be part of the Alabama section of the state.
 

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Manziel? Bradford? Winston? Lawrence? Hurts? J.T. Barrett? They all won Heismans or were all conference or AA quarterbacks as freshmen in the past ten years. Huh?

Yes I bring other quarterbacks up from over the decades to show how ignorant the comment about freshman quarterbacks "not working" is.
Those guys were redshirt freshmen too except for Lawrence. Thats not nearly the same
 

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It just wasn't the best case scenario for them. The best case scenario would have been getting a qb with a pulse out of the portal for next year but my hunch is the hotshot freshmen is only going there because of the lack of competition. Nebraska might be the only power 5 program with zero returning qb talent.

USC?
 
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How is that list of two dozen guys to replace Franklin coming along? It's been a few weeks so I assume you have made some headway.
He can’t get past Jimbo Fisher. Notice how high demand Jimbo is since he got fired.
 

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Looks like somebody has been squirreling away some major cash in a barn somewhere.
They are channelling their inner Big 8 days when they had to pay players to compete with Barry Switzer. On a related note, y'all might enjoy today's BuckEye talk podcast. Three guys who can't speak in complete sentences who cover the erosion of their recruiting monopoly on paying players, the thin resume of virtue of their outgoing AD and the impact or lack thereof on the rumors of Larry Johnson's retirement. Also in the podcast was how O$U required top 5 recruiting classes to compete with Meatchickens ability to develop top 20 classes. On paper, PSU recruits between these to #$$hole farms but fails to win on the field.
 

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When the time comes finding another bottom feeding type will be no problem. Since so many other schools (Washington, Oklahoma, Georgia, TCU, Michigan, Texas, tOSU, etc.) have hired coaches since Penn State hired Bottom Feeder and seen them take them to the playoffs or national championship games, Kraft should be able to find someone. That's what he is paid for.

I don't understand the difficulty you Franklin fan boys think it will be to find a successful replacement. It is not like Bottom Feeder has all these conference championships and playoff appearances to match, or anything better than an awful W/L record against ranked opponents. A new coach will also not face having a predecessor with many memorable achievements. Bottom Feeder has seen to that.
What a cranky fu*k you are. You must be balls at a party.
 

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They have an aggressive NIL collective (Top 20 - ranked higher than Clemson and Ohio State per On3) and a sh*t ton of fans desperate for a return to glory.
AS much as I dislike the Corn, MR will get that going in the right direction, they would have won 8+ last sesaon if they would of had any type of QB play.
 

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His problem, like many others on the board, is he’s more anti-Franklin than he is pro-PSU. I’m not sure how anyone follows a team where they hate the coach so bad they want to see him fail.

Retreat to advance.
 
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