FC: Is football worth it?
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Pitt football makes money. The other sports lose money and football subsidizes them. Cancelling football doesn’t make sense. Dropping down to a level where the team will also lose money doesn’t make sense either
Whew I was scared for second there. Yes, a CPA/auditor and a CPA/CFO. Neither are alumni of OSU. They both live very close to michigan border which may influence their thinking.
There's the key. Do any of us care what non-alum PSU fans think?
Only if they are major financial contributors and then it is only slightly discounted.
No
Ohio State paid a bigger price than we thought to win a national championship
Ohio State's athletic department redefined the meaning of going all in and then some to win a national title. It better have been worth it.fansided.com
Not particularly. It's always a bit odd how the people who are not alumni do the most jaw flapping. So many schools in OH and they all root for osu.
One less home game?
One less home game, for OSU, is - IIRC - about $7-8 Million in revenue. Maybe a bit more.
That only explains, obviously, a small fraction of the deficit.
They lost money - a lot of it - and would have lost a lot of money whether with 6 or 7 (or 8, as they will have next year) home games.
All that said, that was a very poorly written/researched article.
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The more likely reason teams may "drop down" will not be because their football programs aren't making money (for the reasons you stated, which are accurate). They are not going to willingly drop from a level that makes them X dollars - only to go to a level that makes them "Something less than X" dollars.
It will, much more likely, be forced relegation when their presence in a conference costs their COHORTS money (like when Temple football was kicked out of the Big East - when the Big East was still a thing). There are, of course, plenty of programs in P4 conferences that don't carry their weight - and cost their cohorts money (that is a simple mathematical certainty). So long as those drains (taxes on the big boys) remain relatively minor, no one will lose sleep. When they become larger, and/or the margins for everyone become tougher to keep fat, then you will see exit doors being opened.
I don’t see that happening. A big part of the reason the TV contracts are huge is because the conference has so many games to sell. If you reduce your inventory, the total price is going to go down. Maybe it goes down by a small enough amount that the average goes up, but that’s a dangerous bet. I also bet the powerhouse football teams don’t mind having some punching bags on the bottom of the conference. OSU and PSU don’t want to play a top 25 team every week and I bet they enjoy the semi-bye week when Purdue comes to town
BiG schools will hang on as long as revenue is shared. Without revenue sharing I wouldn't be so sure.
Every big time school saw ND keep all their money. What benefit does conference revenue sharing to schools like OSU, Michigan, Penn State, Oregon, and USC? Don’t need a conference to play each other…
I'm glad you asked.
Everything has a season, a change.
My plan: after this season and one more offseason of PSU 'buying/renting kids' to wear the Blue and White, I'm stopping my BWI subscription and I'll stop following the program. I spend too much time as it is on Penn State. After nearly 60 years of support, it's time to do something else imho. Happy to attend lower division games and I would really like to see Army-Navy once. But that's about it for college football for me after this season. Hope Franklin can do it this year.
Everything has a season, a change.
Something cowherd says all the time is he reserves the right to alter his opinion as things change. Big game Jim is no longer a problem for me cause of the new playoff format. Adding a west coast vaca once a year is icing.
Do you really think those schools will become independent? None of them is going to get a ND type TV contract on their own.
Another thing to consider is that PSU makes out on MBB revenue sharing. They will also get playoff money every year even if the miss the playoffs. ND doesn't have that security.
I'm not so far from that position. It's been a while since I lived or died over a game. I loved it, but college football has been dying for decades.
Because in years ND doesn't make the playoff they get zero. That is unlikely to happen to any Big 10 school under the 12 team playoff model.
So, the B1G split $46mm in playoff money. That’s $2.6mm split evenly amongst every Big Ten school. ND got $20mm; can do the math, but would take the BIG putting four teams in the playoffs (with two reaching the final four) 8 years in a row for PSU to make that.
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This is why the "dead weight" of the conference should be cut. The chances that PUR, RUT, etc. will ever contribute to that $46mm is not very high, but they are given an equal share just the same.
Yeah bit Rutgers gives us the entire NYC market
College football dying or using college players and not paying them anything is dying? College football is a multi billion dollar industry and you want to stiff the people who make it possible. You should check out now if you cannot bring yourself to compensate the people who make it all possible.
Who says players can’t be compensated? It’s the free agency even before the season ends that helps kill it. Wouldn’t it have been nice to have Beau available in the playoffs.
Also time the non profit status be removed. They want to run it like a business, tax it like one.
Ohio State paid a bigger price than we thought to win a national championship
Ohio State's athletic department redefined the meaning of going all in and then some to win a national title. It better have been worth it.
Former UCLA Football coach Henry Russell Sanders said: “Winning isn’t everything, it’s the only thing”.
I can‘t think of a single LSU or Alabama fan who remembers the athletic budget condition after any of Nick Saban’s 7 National Championships. All fans remember the thrill of victory and being Number One.
Bottom line, yes, Football is worth it. As the late Al Davis would say, “Just win baby!”.
That’s like 4 oz soy milk lattes and no jam or cream for your scone for everyone .Exactly. What’s with the f*cking communism?
And that is why at some point soon, I predict the dead weight will cut football or move to a more regional model. Why should the big dogs share with them? It makes no sense.