FC: Manny Diaz reportedly interviews for Duke job

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FWIW I was the business manager for Duke U Parking and Transportation Departments when Coach Cutcliffe managed to persuade Alabama to play Duke - in Durham. We obviously discussed how to accommodate visitors. One suggestion was, "Let's tell their fans they cannot come in their RVs, since we have no place with hook-ups to park them."

That is indicative of Duke's attitude towards football - at least a few years ago. Maybe Coach Elko changed that kind of mindset when he got Duke to winning in football . . . If so, football fandom still isn't rooted very deeply there.

Sure hope Diaz stays with Dear Old State.
 

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FWIW I was the business manager for Duke U Parking and Transportation Departments when Coach Cutcliffe managed to persuade Alabama to play Duke - in Durham. We obviously discussed how to accommodate visitors. One suggestion was, "Let's tell their fans they cannot come in their RVs, since we have no place with hook-ups to park them."

That is indicative of Duke's attitude towards football - at least a few years ago. Maybe Coach Elko changed that kind of mindset when he got Duke to winning in football . . . If so, football fandom still isn't rooted very deeply there.

Sure hope Diaz stays with Dear Old State.
Thank You for the information and I hope so.
 

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So interesting he is contemplating the Duke HC job. Few things, he wanted to be a HC naturally, makes sense. Why now? 2 years at PSU and already looking? Why not build your stock a little higher and get a better gig. Perhaps he feels he needs to strike now while the iron is hot? Does he feel he is loosing a lot and we will take some steps back next season?
 
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So interesting he is contemplating the Duke HC job. Few things, he wanted to be a HC naturally, makes sense. Why now? 2 years at PSU and already looking? Why not build your stock a little higher and get a better gig. Perhaps he feels he needs to strike now while the iron is hot? Does he feel he is loosing a lot and we will take some steps back next season?

Perhaps he saw Elko win with defense and solid QB play and thinks he can do the same. Then in 2 years, a bigger fish wants him to come aboard.

Still no clue how this will turn out.
 
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Granted, it's Duke, but back to a warmer weather location doesn't hurt. He has been in the south most of his life. Research triangle area offers a great life style.
 

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FWIW I was the business manager for Duke U Parking and Transportation Departments when Coach Cutcliffe managed to persuade Alabama to play Duke - in Durham. We obviously discussed how to accommodate visitors. One suggestion was, "Let's tell their fans they cannot come in their RVs, since we have no place with hook-ups to park them."

That is indicative of Duke's attitude towards football - at least a few years ago. Maybe Coach Elko changed that kind of mindset when he got Duke to winning in football . . . If so, football fandom still isn't rooted very deeply there.

Sure hope Diaz stays with Dear Old State.
Some people may not look at that as a bad thing. Less pressure to win. Do moderately well, get big bucks.
 

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So interesting he is contemplating the Duke HC job. Few things, he wanted to be a HC naturally, makes sense. Why now? 2 years at PSU and already looking? Why not build your stock a little higher and get a better gig. Perhaps he feels he needs to strike now while the iron is hot? Does he feel he is loosing a lot and we will take some steps back next season?
Defense played lights out this year. Not sure his stock goes much higher, but risks going lower.

Strike while the iron is hot....

I hope he stays, but gotta believe this is his year.
 

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Perhaps he saw Elko win with defense and solid QB play and thinks he can do the same. Then in 2 years, a bigger fish wants him to come aboard.

Still no clue how this will turn out.
Obviously that is the play for him….very risky
 
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I lived in Durham for almost 15 years and couldn’t disagree more.

I live about an hour west of the Triangle (southern fringes of the Triad) and get along with folks as long as they don't ask to borrow my pick-up or my guns. Only had two asks for truck and one for weapons in my almost 30 years here. They understood me saying "no" - bless their hearts!
 

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Defense played lights out this year. Not sure his stock goes much higher, but risks going lower.

Strike while the iron is hot....

I hope he stays, but gotta believe this is his year.
I totally get Manny leaving this offseason much as I want him to stick around. But I feel Iike he could do better than Duke unless he really wants a lower pressure situation.
 

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Very different area to live. Definitely not outsider friendly.

 
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Whether he stays or goes, I think one of the legit concerns about Franklin is the retention rate at coordinator spot. I realize these aren't the Paterno days, but it's hard to have consistent performance and complementary football when every season or two you're breaking in a new coordinator. Sure hope Manny stays, breaking in two new coordinators won't be easy.
 

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Good for Manny. He’s done very well for Penn State. If he gets a good HC job, then he should take it. I think I saw it mentioned on this board that his Miami offset expires after this season. I can’t blame the guy for trying to maximize his earning potential. The coaching money is crazy.
 

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Whether he stays or goes, I think one of the legit concerns about Franklin is the retention rate at coordinator spot. I realize these aren't the Paterno days, but it's hard to have consistent performance and complementary football when every season or two you're breaking in a new coordinator. Sure hope Manny stays, breaking in two new coordinators won't be easy.
What’s an average Power 5 head coach make? $3M? $4M?

No school can pay coordinators that much. Franklin has faults, but you can’t expect his coordinators to turn down that kind of a pay raise.
 
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If I missed this in another post, my apologies.

D'Anton Lynn , UCLA or Al Golden, Notre Dame
my first two choices, considering I don't know the talent pool of available DC coaches out there.
 

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Whether he stays or goes, I think one of the legit concerns about Franklin is the retention rate at coordinator spot. I realize these aren't the Paterno days, but it's hard to have consistent performance and complementary football when every season or two you're breaking in a new coordinator. Sure hope Manny stays, breaking in two new coordinators won't be easy.
Saban's coordinator turnover is pretty frequent, albeit for a different reason, and he's done okay. In recent years, Dabo lost coordinators on both sides of the ball and hasn't fared as well. Losing them is inevitable. The problem is replacing them with people who are as good or better.
 

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Obviously that is the play for him….very risky
What happens to P5 head coaches within 5 years?

Historical Data shows that, looking at the nationwide pool of head coaches at any point in time, within 5 years:

48% are fired (which now days typically means they get a very big check to not work there anymore)
25% are still with the same program
19% move up to a bigger (more $) job
8% retire (of their own volition)

All of those are huge financial windfalls for the coach - even though the most likely outcome (by far) is "getting fired"

Very few coaches given the opportunity to be P5 head coaches say "no".
 

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What happens to P5 head coaches within 5 years?

Historical Data shows that, looking at the nationwide pool of head coaches at any point in time, within 5 years:

48% are fired (which now days typically means they get a very big check to not work there anymore)
25% are still with the same program
19% move up to a bigger (more $) job
8% retire (of their own volition)

All of those are huge financial windfalls for the coach - even though the most likely outcome (by far) is "getting fired"

Very few coaches given the opportunity to be P5 head coaches say "no".
Thanks for sharing, very insightful.
He will get paid.
He will most likely fall into the 48% category.
He will wind up at a MAC school or another DC job.

I respected what both Brent Pry and Brent Venables did.
Coaching is a marathon not a sprint.
Diaz could play the long game but doesn't seem to be his MO.
This isn't a selfish envious dig, wanting him to stay, its just amazing to me that no one has loyalty to anything anymore.

Lastly, I have said this before and for years--some coaches are great coordinators and arent meant to be a HC and some HC's aren't coordinators.
I put Franklin in the HC category--I put Diaz in the DC box.

It's amazing the game within a game that goes on with schools and coaches--let's hire the shiny new object SMH....
 

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Whether he stays or goes, I think one of the legit concerns about Franklin is the retention rate at coordinator spot. I realize these aren't the Paterno days, but it's hard to have consistent performance and complementary football when every season or two you're breaking in a new coordinator. Sure hope Manny stays, breaking in two new coordinators won't be easy.
First, they stay too long. Now, they don't stay long enough.
 

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I think you guys have covered all the angles e.g. ambition, lifestyle, etc, I was curious what Manny may be making and found the below from October this year. If he is short of 2 mil from Penn State, a head coaching job would be a big pay increase, especially as his Miami buyout goes away.

From Yahoo Sports
5 thoughts about Manny Diaz’s contract at Penn State
Kevin McGuire
Tue, Oct 3, 2023

The annual database of coaching salaries was released by USA TODAY Sports this week, which is always fun to dig into.

Naturally, James Franklin continues to be ranked among the highest-paid head coaches in college football. Some may argue Penn State is getting a good deal on Franklin’s contract (and, yes, others may vehemently disagree with that idea).

This got me wondering where Penn State defensive coordinator Manny Diaz fits in the economic stratosphere of college football assistants. I had to imagine it was a pretty comfortable spot to be in with his contract buyout still ongoing from Miami and whatever he is earning from Penn State.

And let me perfectly clear. Whatever Diaz is getting paid from Penn State, it has been worth every penny this season. Penn State’s defense is among the best in the nation in a variety of statistical categories, including points allowed per game and rushing defense. Penn State has traditionally been pretty strong on defense, but this year’s Nittany Lions lead the nation in turnovers gained, which is a credit to the focus and direction of Diaz.

But Penn State does not provide assistant coaching salary information to USA TODAY Sports, so we have to do some guessing on where exactly Diaz sits. So let’s dig into this a little bit to see what Diaz may be getting, where things go beyond this season, and just whether or not Penn State is getting a steal on the assistant coaching market.

While we have access to the contract value and terms of head coach James Franklin, the same is not true for Penn State’s assistant coaching staff. Because Penn State is not obligated to provide that information, the USA TODAY Sports coaching salary database for 2023 is incomplete without any contract information for Penn State assistants, including Diaz and offensive coordinator Mike Yurcich.

We may not know exactly what Penn State’s assistant coaches are making this season, but we can probably make some educated guesses that land in the ballpark. That is because James Franklin has made his assistant coaching salary pool a part of his own contract negotiations.

It has been reported Franklin worked to ensure his coordinators would be among the top three highest paid in the Big Ten and top eight in the nation, according to Mike Poorman of StateCollege.com.

So if we have qualifiers, we can look at the three top defensive coordinators in the Big Ten and define the range of the known top three. Ohio State’s Jim Knowles is the highest-paid defensive coordinator on the USA TODAY Sports salary database, so we can set the bar pretty high right at the top. That’s good news for Diaz.

Knowles is paid $1.9 million according to the USA TODAY Sports coaching salary database. The next highest-paid defensive coordinators in the Big Ten according to the database is Iowa’s Phil Parker ($1.35 million).

Given the resources Penn State has at its disposal, Diaz should land somewhere between those two figures. But he is still getting paid part of his buyout from Miami from his stint that program’s offensive coordinator. That may mean Penn State is paying a significantly discounted rate, so he could be third in the mix.

As it turns out, we can use the same range between Jim Knowles and Phil Parker to estimate where Diaz falls within the top eight defensive coordinator contracts. Knowles is first on the list and Parker is eighth among reported contract values.
Overlapping these two ranges shows Diaz would likely be no less than second in the Big Ten.

It will not be long before Diaz begins having his name mentioned for potential head coaching opportunities. With the way Penn State’s defense continues to thrive, and with more and more coaching vacancies on the horizon, do not be surprised to see that be the case with Diaz.

It is also important to keep in mind Diaz’s buyout from Miami will expire at the end of the year as well, which means Penn State will either have to work hard to lock him in for 2024 and beyond or be prepared to see Diaz entertain other potential coaching opportunities should they come his way.
 
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Thanks for sharing, very insightful.
He will get paid.
He will most likely fall into the 48% category.
He will wind up at a MAC school or another DC job.

I respected what both Brent Pry and Brent Venables did.
Coaching is a marathon not a sprint.
Diaz could play the long game but doesn't seem to be his MO.
This isn't a selfish envious dig, wanting him to stay, its just amazing to me that no one has loyalty to anything anymore.

Lastly, I have said this before and for years--some coaches are great coordinators and arent meant to be a HC and some HC's aren't coordinators.
I put Franklin in the HC category--I put Diaz in the DC box.

It's amazing the game within a game that goes on with schools and coaches--let's hire the shiny new object SMH....

This is the thing: Diaz has been doing fine financially, as he still has been getting the $$ from Miami (FL). I get it that in 2024, he'll be taking a large paycut if he doesn't get a HC gig. I also get that you could argue that his star would never be brighter than now given how our defense performed in 2023.

That all being said, if he is going to "cash out" and return to Head Coaching, I would want to sign a massive contract at a big time school (a "set yourself for life" type deal) rather than go to the likes of Duke. Are there any other P5 openings that haven't filled yet? I honestly can't think of any which surprises me given how much HC turnover their usually is. He might be better off waiting until next off-season when just by law of averages you'll probably see a greater number of more major P5 openings and then higher payouts.

also, do we know if he is the "first choice" for Duke? They've interviewed a number of candidates.
 
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Thanks for sharing, very insightful.
He will get paid.
He will most likely fall into the 48% category.
He will wind up at a MAC school or another DC job.

I respected what both Brent Pry and Brent Venables did.
Coaching is a marathon not a sprint.
Diaz could play the long game but doesn't seem to be his MO.
This isn't a selfish envious dig, wanting him to stay, its just amazing to me that no one has loyalty to anything anymore.

Lastly, I have said this before and for years--some coaches are great coordinators and arent meant to be a HC and some HC's aren't coordinators.
I put Franklin in the HC category--I put Diaz in the DC box.

It's amazing the game within a game that goes on with schools and coaches--let's hire the shiny new object SMH....
I think you hit a lot of nails right on the head.




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This is the thing: Diaz has been doing fine financially, as he still has been getting the $$ from Miami (FL). I get it that in 2024, he'll be taking a large paycut if he doesn't get a HC gig. I also get that you could argue that his star would never be brighter than now given how our defense performed in 2023.

That all being said, if he is going to "cash out" and return to Head Coaching, I would want to sign a massive contract at a big time school (a "set yourself for life" type deal) rather than go to the likes of Duke. Are there any other P5 openings that haven't filled yet? I honestly can't think of any which surprises me given how much HC turnover their usually is. He might be better off waiting until next off-season when just by law of averages you'll probably see a greater number of more major P5 openings and then higher payouts.

also, do we know if he is the "first choice" for Duke? They've interviewed a number of candidates.
100% my underlying point-Thank you for illustrating so well! Dollar cost of averaging with these guys---he is Safe here at PSU. So you make an extra $8M---okay so what a ski house in Colorado? Ain't enough for a private jet--need to be worth legit $50M to own ur own plane and crew etc...sigh
Money goes only so far once you are at a certain level--SMH.
 
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