FC/OT: Best Franklin era tradition?

SleepyLion

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1600 Pennsylvania Avenue NW, Washington, DC 20500

Make sure to include your return address so I know who to attribute the package to and provide the appropriate response, in return.

I have no desire to receive a DM from you, StuporedLion. Hell, I have no desire to receive a post by you, directed at me, on this board. You were, and are, acting a fool and when you sober up, hopefully you'll regret your actions.
That address is believable. The guy living there has been suspected of having some cognitive issues.

There is an ignore button. Try it. no skin off my back.
 

Moogy

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That address is believable. The guy living there has been suspected of having some cognitive issues.

There is an ignore button. Try it. no skin off my back.
So when you care if people ignore you, you skin yourself? Sober up!
 

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Can’t lose to Pitt and get smashed by Michigan and expect to make the playoff.
^^^This^^^

For all the won/loss stats, records against top 10 teams... it comes down to that, doesn't it?

My "FrankLLin" post earlier in this thread was only half joking: CJFs flaw is just not being able to get over that 2 loss hump. In the years he has a playoff caliber team and manages to knock off UM or OSU, he seems to find a way to stumble. You just can't lose to the Pitts and Minnesotas in those years.
 
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So when you care if people ignore you, you skin yourself? Sober up!
"No skin off my back" is a figure of speech that means, "it is of no consequence to me." It does not have a literal meaning, but is derived from the punishment of whipping wich can remove skin if conduted viciously enough.

You should probably read more to get some culture in your life.

I suppose if I ever did care if I was ignored it would be of consequence to me. But I have never cared, and doubt I will.
 

Moogy

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"No skin off my back" is a figure of speech that means, "it is of no consequence to me." It does not have a literal meaning, but is derived from the punishment of whipping wich can remove skin if conduted viciously enough.

You should probably read more to get some culture in your life.

I suppose if I ever did care if I was ignored it would be of consequence to me. But I have never cared, and doubt I will.

Oh, so you're saying things can be true, even if they aren't literally true? You don't say. If only you had known that before your initial "contribution" to this thread, you could have saved yourself from ever "contributing" to this thread.
 

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Replacing offensive coordinators. How many has he had in ten years? 4? 5? 6?

How about exchanging words with angry fans as he leaves thru the Beaver Stadium tunnel? There have been quite a few of those moments.

The empty stare and crossed arms as he stands on the sideline in the final moments of another loss to tOSU or UM.
The students heckling Coach Franklin does not help anything: recruiting, the team… nothing. The guy is working his *** off and we can’t undercut him. Good things will happen just hang tough.
 

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“The students heckling Coach Franklin does not help anything: recruiting, the team… nothing. The guy is working his *** off and we can’t undercut him. Good things will happen just hang tough”

I suppose you may be right. It’s all been a part of his brilliant 17 year plan.
 
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Oh, so you're saying things can be true, even if they aren't literally true? You don't say. If only you had known that before your initial "contribution" to this thread, you could have saved yourself from ever "contributing" to this thread.
Or you could have said that instead of saying "You're picking out exceptions here..." Like you said, I would not have had to contribute. Glad you learned something today.
 

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Or you could have said that instead of saying "You're picking out exceptions here..." Like you said, I would not have had to contribute. Glad you learned something today.
Sparkles, the "exceptions" were the students/players ... my initial comments re "no one" referenced fans and other interested parties. Oy. We covered this. You're still stuck at the middle part of the episode where they accuse the wrong person of being the baddie, and you just keep looping back to that. C'mon, Scrappy Doo. Figure. It. Out.
 

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Sparkles, the "exceptions" were the students/players ... my initial comments re "no one" referenced fans and other interested parties. Oy. We covered this. You're still stuck at the middle part of the episode where they accuse the wrong person of being the baddie, and you just keep looping back to that. C'mon, Scrappy Doo. Figure. It. Out.
You are going in circles. Your first comment had nothing to do with fans. The next post had the player examples and said fans cars too. When given the opportunity to clarify it you said "exceptions".

The retort to your first "fans" reference is below and it still stands.
Except ... the fans did care. Read John Bacon's book Fourth and Long. It was the thing that really surprised him about Penn State fans. And he's a "Michigan Man" (TM). He had no particular bias toward that view. I don't know how long you've been a Penn State fan, but if you were around back in the day, you would have seen it too. It's also one reason there was so much schadenfreude in regard to PSU when the scandal broke.
I figured it out Farmer Moogy. Zoinks!
 

Moogy

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You are going in circles. Your first comment had nothing to do with fans. The next post had the player examples and said fans cars too. When given the opportunity to clarify it you said "exceptions".

The retort to your first "fans" reference is below and it still stands.

I figured it out Farmer Moogy. Zoinks!
Wut? My first comment had everything to do with fans. My second comment had everything to do with fans. When someone responded by talking about specific examples of players, I said those were the exceptions to the rule.

You following, Scrappy? I know often times you have your fists in the air challenging the wrong person for the wrong thing ... and this is no different. As it has been since the beginning, my point is that football players (as a whole) have never been bastions of the pursuit of higher education, and the fans never really cared about that, anyway. They paid it lip service, as an angle. Just something to yell at an opposing fan base ("not only did we whoop you, but we're smarter! we might be similar on the field, but our kids graduate! you may have beaten us, but we lost with honor!"). There was the occasional smart kid/serious student on the football team at every college, so that's not instructive. For the most part it was a bunch of dudes getting led by the arms toward a throwaway degree with middling performance ... and if we, or some other school, were slightly more successful at finishing that ... whoopdido. And the fans just wanted to see us win. They were concerned with Player X's 40 time and ability to get the ball in the end zone ... how many TDs does he have was a question of importance, not how he did on his Bio exam.

But look at you go!

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Wut? My first comment had everything to do with fans. My second comment had everything to do with fans. When someone responded by talking about specific examples of players, I said those were the exceptions to the rule.

You following, Scrappy? I know often times you have your fists in the air challenging the wrong person for the wrong thing ... and this is no different. As it has been since the beginning, my point is that football players (as a whole) have never been bastions of the pursuit of higher education, and the fans never really cared about that, anyway. They paid it lip service, as an angle. Just something to yell at an opposing fan base ("not only did we whoop you, but we're smarter! we might be similar on the field, but our kids graduate! you may have beaten us, but we lost with honor!"). There was the occasional smart kid/serious student on the football team at every college, so that's not instructive. For the most part it was a bunch of dudes getting led by the arms toward a throwaway degree with middling performance ... and if we, or some other school, were slightly more successful at finishing that ... whoopdido. And the fans just wanted to see us win. They were concerned with Player X's 40 time and ability to get the ball in the end zone ... how many TDs does he have was a question of importance, not how he did on his Bio exam.

But look at you go!

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So, when you said "no one" you meant "no fans"?
When you were questioned why no just say "I was talking about fans"... not "those are exceptions"?
When some one says you do not know what "no one" means why not just say "it was hyperbole" or it was a figure of speech?
Was it because you are trying to defend a position that is substantially incorrect? The position that "no fans cared about graduation rates or GPAs." That is tour position, right?

I know people that did care. They mostly follow D-II, D-III, or the Iveys now.
 

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Well, it took Paterno 17 years to have his Georgia and 21 years to have his Miami. James is at 11 right. Let's see how it shakes out.
Good grief, do you know anything about Penn State Football? Paterno had more big wins in 1 year than Frankin has had his entire tenure.

And those big wins started early in his career, on the road, and on the games’ biggest stages.

Frankin is a nice, slightly better than average coach. Paterno was one of the best to ever coach football.
 

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Good grief, do you know anything about Penn State Football? Paterno had more big wins in 1 year than Frankin has had his entire tenure.

And those big wins started early in his career, on the road, and on the games’ biggest stages.

Frankin is a nice, slightly better than average coach. Paterno was one of the best to ever coach football.
So how does a slightly better than average program go about hiring a great coach?
 

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So, when you said "no one" you meant "no fans"?
When you were questioned why no just say "I was talking about fans"... not "those are exceptions"?
When some one says you do not know what "no one" means why not just say "it was hyperbole" or it was a figure of speech?
Was it because you are trying to defend a position that is substantially incorrect? The position that "no fans cared about graduation rates or GPAs." That is tour position, right?

I know people that did care. They mostly follow D-II, D-III, or the Iveys now.

No one knows what you're trying to say, Scrappy Doonot. My commentary was easily understood, entirely correct, and your subsequent attempts to attack it have been ridiculous and already easily dismissed. And it seems like you're trying to repeat said misdirected punches. Go fight with the mirror. Or go have a nice chat with the alleged people that did care about the latest DIII news.
 

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You can tell when a guy worked in a government or education job. Doing good is enough in those places. “James is a nice guy and he wins 9 times a year and I’m happy.”

Meanwhile in the private sector doing ok gets you nowhere. You can expect a stagnant career, or a demotion, if you are lucky.

Franklin is not earning his salary. He is a disappointment by any measure. He should have moved on several years ago when his record against ranked teams and the Big Two proved he was not capable of performing at the level for which he is compensated.

If Penn STate has trouble raising money for players and facilities it is directly attributable to the lack of wins against the teams they claim are their peers.

In the private sector he would have had his *** handed to him after that pathetic losing season he delivered.

First, it's "doing well," not "doing good."

Second, PSU is one of the most successful programs in the nation during Franklin's tenure ... a tenure which started whilst digging the institution out of a colossal mess that occurred under the auspices of "The Holy One," who, if the legend is to be believed, used to ride in on his dragon, and slay all the trolls to save the princess whilst shitting his pants as his team went 3-9.
 

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Good grief, do you know anything about Penn State Football? Paterno had more big wins in 1 year than Frankin has had his entire tenure.

And those big wins started early in his career, on the road, and on the games’ biggest stages.

Frankin is a nice, slightly better than average coach. Paterno was one of the best to ever coach football.
2 nat'l championships in 47 years. That is not anything special. Name the big wins that mattered. 17 years to get his first and after his second 26 years went by with nothing!