Actually capitalism does apply to them in this day and age of NIL. And the kid found out the other side of a free market economy.
FC/OT: U Tennessee QB renegotiating contract…
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Stop the nonsense. The NFL had to honor contracts but most of the have opt outs and some amount of non-guaranteed money. Dropping a player under those circumstances is not a breach of contract b
Can you point out where wealthy is included in the description of a protected class in Title VII?Also, wealthy is a protected class.
All of this makes me respect Coach Franklin even more. He seems to recruit players of integrity.
Notice you conveniently omitted and failed to address the rest of his post. Shall we guess why?
Receive “nothing more” than a “free” education? Ever pay tuition for anyone? My problem is not with NIL per se but how it has been bastardized by the major college sports. As I understood the court ruling athletes were permitted to make money off their name, image and likeness notwithstanding playing as an amateur in college. Thus a kid could make money in a shaving cream commercial. Or think Livvy Dunne who makes millions of dollars for hawking clothes and her likeness (she sure as hell isn’t being paid millions for her prowess as a gymnast). Almost immediately however wealthy donors began paying for players to attend their schools such as the guy who announced he would pay each player who went to his Alma mater a minimum of $50,000 and everything has “progressed” from there.
See my other post. NFL teams can only cut players consistent with their contracts. Ever hear of the NFLPA?
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First off, I wasn’t talking to you. Secondly, you can take it however you want. I don’t care.
It was rather inconvenient to omit the rest of his post and we shall not guess why, but thank you for asking.
Ever make a post without sounding like a snarky pre-teen?
Ever been in a shaving cream commercial? Ever played a major college sport? Ever been a wealthy donor supporting NIL? Ever slapped yourself for making a post like this?
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Doesn't make the "contract" very binding when one party can simply walk away. That is the point. why should players feel obligated to honor a contract when the team doesn't have to?
So they are "honoring" their contract because they get fined?
I said nothing about barkely. He never held out.
The fines are a league rule.
Let's use Joe Burrow as an example. He's under contract with the Bengals until 2028. He can't leave the team during fall practice and go to another team if he's not happy with his contract, coaches, or management. He's locked in. Of course he can say he wants to renegotiate his contract but he can't simply up and leave.
Barkley's contract was up. He declined an extension and was subsequently given the franchise tag. Barkley refused to sign the tag and didn't attend the team's offseason workouts while he continued to negotiate his contract.
He’s Mr Vegas, hoping to go from $2 mill to $4 mill . It’ll probably work for more than $2 mill
I had a post addressing most of this situation, but because someone must have cried because I mentioned a certain person in it, the whole thing got deleted, even though only a small portion mentioned that person, and it was completely and wholly relevant to the topic at hand.
Contract law is very nuanced, and all those nuances are too detailed to go through here ... but what can be conveyed is that it's not criminal law. "Society" doesn't go after a violator. It's (usually) between two parties. And if some wrong was allegedly committed by one party, it's up to the other party to bring an action to address said breach. And it's usually not about punishment ... it's just about making things "right," as much as they could be under the terms of the contract, if it wasn't breached.
In other words if someone is apparently breaching a contract, but no one is bringing an action to address that breach ... ask yourself why they aren't.
Often times, when there is some kind of a breach, and the harmed party doesn't bring an action, it's because of a comparative lack of resources. It can be time-consuming, and finances-consuming. Like in the circumstance when you have a well-heeled developer with a gang of attorneys on one side and some joe blow schmoe struggling to make ends meet on the other side ... and joe blow got screwed over by well-heeled developer. But, obviously, that's not the case here.
Personal services contracts are hairy. Contracts for goods are comparatively more straightforward (though still have their own nuances) ... you want X amount of Widgets, and someone says they'll deliver them for Y price. They don't deliver them. OK ... sue to have them deliver them. If not possible, get any money you're out because of said breach back. And so on. But with personal services, do you want someone who doesn't want to be there performing for you? If not, but that party is still in breach, what do you do? What's the compensation? What are you actually out that can be redressed by a determination that the other party breached?
And here you have the grenade that is employment law. Schools don't want these kids being considered an employee. Most of these contracts being drawn up are right on that line of being employment contracts (if not over), and if you make an argument for breach, and want damages, you may accidentally slip up and make an argument that he's an employee. Then you've screwed it up for all the schools - that's a pyrrhic victory from the viewpoint of the institutions.
I understand. The fact remains that I don't know any NFL player who walked out on his contract and got signed to play for another team.
I can't recall if that did or did not happen in any particular instance, but what HAS happened is the "threat" of discontent, which causes teams to cave and give the player what they want (or some reasonable facsimile thereof). Threaten to sit out, or actually sit out team activities, and get a new/restructured deal. Threaten to sit out and don't get franchised. Ask for release and get it. Ask for/demand a trade and get their way. And that's with an employment contract structure.
What exactly happened in this instant case? Did he just look around and the institution or collective said "eff off ... deal is off"? Did he say he had no intention of honoring the deal and looked around and the institution or collective said "now we don't want you"?
That fact that you claim remains, even if true, may not be at all relevant.
Well, that gave me a chuckle. You may be an expert in some things, but you're about as far from the reality of what took place as one could be.
I think the only other scenario from the first paragraph that has happened is the 2018 Le'veon Bell case. He was franchised, refused to play, and lost a year of playing (was not traded or relaesed or paid).
I am not sure if he was technically under contract with PIT or not, but the NFL does not allow a player to play for another NFL team even if the play refused the franchise tag (he probably could have played in the CFL).
He became a UFA in 2019 and signed with NYJ.
I do not see a situation where the NFL would allow a player, under contract, to play for another team.
And what was conveyed is that this may not be at all relevant. This former Tenn QB was not an employee. It's not an employment contract. "You can't work for Team Y because you're under contract to work for Team X" ... not applicable here.
And we’re paying the “billions”.
Get rid of the crybaby. He’s nothing more than a cancer on the team. If I played for Tennessee and they caved, I’m portaling and getting the crap out of there (unless they wanted to pay me 4 million too).
Still, Nico‘s current endorsement deal with Spyre was set to pay him more than 2 million for the upcoming season, according to a person familiar with the agreement. That should have been enough to keep him near the top among current college quarterbacks, according to data from Opendorse, market Intel, which analyze $500 million of verified NIL deals. Blake Lawrence, the CEO of Opendorse said Nico is not the only player to try to get a raise by playing hardball. Our college partners are having agents threatened portal more than ever, he said. And almost every case if it’s a high caliber player, the school has given into the demands of the agent. What unique about Nico situation is thar Tennessee didn’t blink.WSJ 4/14/25.
Nico got smoked by Ohio State. 14 for 31, 100 yds passing. Howard way better performance. No reason for more $. If you’re an attorney, you just lost a big trial in spectacular fashion. Is this the right time to play hardball for a raise?