FC: Shhh! Don’t tell Franklin!!
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Funny thing is folks here were talking up how great Riley is at the beginning of this year and how he would run circles around JF.....now he's the poster child for moving on to another HC. You cannot make this stuff up. Those goal posts can move in any direction if you want them to.
Last week there was one dying on a hill for Jimbo Fisher too.
I just want the goal posts to move closer to a PSU national championship.
One thing we’ve learned about Riley (to date) is he is not a program builder. Franklin is. USC needs a culture reset and someone to build a program before worrying about the CFP. Riley has shown to be an excellent coach otherwise and sure, he’s not going anywhere - yet.
Riley is in year 2 now....so people are jerking those knees. I don't think that he is on the hot seat as USC has been a mess for a decade plus, but people now think now due to the Portal and NIL....2 years is all you get.? Mob mentalities do rule now and the media will do all they can to assist in lighting those torches.
7-5 with the reigning Heisman Trophy winner playing QB but please share some more criticism of Franklin whenever you feel like it which is frequently as I recall.
Yeah and there was lots of love for Fickell, Schiano and the ever popular Rhule.
Riley to aTm, Diaz to USC, Alex Grinch to PSU as DC, Brian Ferentz to PSU as OC.
@Midnighter has a coronary.
@Midnighter has a coronary.
Franklin has gotten over the 'losing to teams we shouldn't hump as of late (knock on wood). Just one more hump to go...
They're all good coaches. What they are not are good enough coaches/recruiters to get top players to Wisconsin, Rutgers, and Nebraska. Right now, the 2023 recruiting classes look like:
Penn State - 14
Nebraska - 30
Wisconsin - 47
Rutgers - 59
The ONLY reason Rhule's name even continues to come up is his ties to PSU. I'm not saying he is a bad coach, but how his name keeps coming up is a joke. Let him win the easy B1G west for a year or something....but that will be hard to do in Neb....yet Iowa seems to do it so there is some hope there for him.
A bit unfair to say it’s solely due to his PSU connections. Two different teams have agreed to give him a combined $126mm guaranteed money, and I don’t think it’s because of his PSU ties.
So if he didn't have PSU ties you think his name would come up here often? Let's call this the Al Golden effect as that was another decade long we need him as HC too.
It certainly wouldn’t come up as often, but it’s not as though there’s NO other reason it would still come up here. He’s been highly sought after for years now, justified or not.
Printing presses must be cranking overtime at USC. Paid Helton a reported $10mm buyout, Oklahoma $4.5mm to buyout Riley's contract, and Ol' Linc $11mm p.a. But that all pales in comparison to settlements they've paid for (non-athletic) sexual misconduct.
Wonder if Ms. Excellence provided a primer on long-term debt finance to USC's administration before she left.
Wonder if Ms. Excellence provided a primer on long-term debt finance to USC's administration before she left.
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What did you think of the Gorilla’s dialing up of all the faked injuries Saturday?
The Big10 West schools free ride to the championship game is over after this year - Thank God. Gonna be tough sledding from now on for those schools.
FWIW, regarding Ruhle - who may be a fine coach overall:
He misplayed his game management on Saturday, so as to impair his team's chances to win the game, about as badly as you can.
The volume of game day FUBARs from coaches throughout the nation, every week, is still pretty amazxing. With all the money involved, one might think that programs would simply hire "game day management" coaches (consultants?). It would be worth far more than the millions spent on nonsense by each program.
The problem, I suppose, would be that head coaches all think they are brilliant game day managers - and very few of them are excellent (Bill OBrien was an exception, the best I have seen in the Big Ten in the last 20 years - just ahead of Urbie), and a lot of them are not anywhere close to good.
He misplayed his game management on Saturday, so as to impair his team's chances to win the game, about as badly as you can.
The volume of game day FUBARs from coaches throughout the nation, every week, is still pretty amazxing. With all the money involved, one might think that programs would simply hire "game day management" coaches (consultants?). It would be worth far more than the millions spent on nonsense by each program.
The problem, I suppose, would be that head coaches all think they are brilliant game day managers - and very few of them are excellent (Bill OBrien was an exception, the best I have seen in the Big Ten in the last 20 years - just ahead of Urbie), and a lot of them are not anywhere close to good.
A HUGE part of that, I think, is that prior to the last 2 years - when the Big Ten from #4-14 has been historically bad - there were always 4-5 or more teams in the Big Ten that could beat you, if you didn't play well.
Now, OSU Michigan and PSU can go out and play awful against any other conference team and still win. A combined 41-0 for those teams against other Big Ten teams the last 2 years.
Paul Finebaum is the poster boy for “Fire the Coach” as a panacea for all college program ills.
Ooh we should be scared with USC, UCLA, Oregon, and Washington coming into the conference next year!!
1. Defense what defense is their motto
2. Chip Kelly gone, Riley’s seat warm, Caleb Williams NFL bound, no more Penix or Nix
3. They don’t play defense out there (Obviously!)
1. Defense what defense is their motto
2. Chip Kelly gone, Riley’s seat warm, Caleb Williams NFL bound, no more Penix or Nix
3. They don’t play defense out there (Obviously!)
If Rhule were a UGA alum, it's highly unlikely that his name would come up for the PSU job any more than say a Matt Campbell. The constant Rhule references are STRICTLY because he's a PSU alum.
He got the Baylor and Carolina and Nebraska jobs which had nothing to do with him being a Penn Stater - same for Golden at Miami. Having a Penn Stater success at Penn State would be cool, but not the be all end all.
I'm not saying anything about his abilities as a coach nor the jobs he's gotten. I'm only saying that the primary reason he's mentioned so often for us is because he is an alum.
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