FSU AD: Lagging ACC revenue 'has to change'
FSU athletic director Michael Alford says the $30 million-per-year difference in revenue between schools in the ACC and the SEC/Big Ten "has to change."
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They had the chance in the 90's to goto the SEC but chose the ACC because it was easier. If FSU had went to the SEC we probably would never have been invited.
The ACC put themselves where they are by circling the wagons a few years ago with the GOR agreement. It was a short sighted move birthed from folks who thought they were the smartest guys in the room. I hope they enjoy trying to keep up when they are shackled to one another in a pool of athletic mediocrity.
Hahaha! Grant of rights tied up to 2036. They are stuck. Can't leave the ACC. It is like the hotel California. You can check out anytime but you can never leave.
It feels like a chicken-egg question to me. The AD says they can't be competitive without more revenue, but maybe the ACC lacks revenue because it isn't competitive. No matter how you structure a TV deal, a season's worth of ACC football games over the last decade just aren't going to be as compelling, and therefore as valuable, as a season's worth of SEC and BIG 10 games. If FSU is troubled by that fact, they need to look in the mirror at their own performance. There was a time in college football when the FSU, Miami, Virginia Tech, and Clemson were hot TV commodities and any games between those 4 would be as compelling as any games in the country. For the last decade or so, it has just been Clemson and a bunch of also-rans.
Piss on them. Stay put. No more expansion, please. Conferences are already too big.
Bad move for them but good for us as we are in a better place.
As a rule, tougher competition makes you better if you want to compete.
The Shane Train is moving in that direction - just need the administration's total support (and not just financial) as Beamer is changing the Carolina brand on the recruiting trail!
Dod I seldom agree with anything you post but you are right on with this one. The ACC sucks .They deserve what they are getting. Since the early days when Tobacco Road ruled the ACC and they screwed us over in every way they could I’ve held them in contemp. Tickles me that Clemson cast their lot with Tobacco Road and now That’s where they belong.
I agree. Come out and complain about revenue when your team has been hot garbage for 5-7 years… Zero excuse for FSU to just lay down and let Clemson win their league every year.
This is nothing more than a smoke screen.
Remember that OU, Texas, then USC, UCLA made their moves and no one knew it was coming until 2 days before official announcement.
Only he would know what his true motivation is at this time.
Now if you have 2 more AD's from the national brand schools speak out, you will know there are/will be negotiations at play .
Remember that OU, Texas, then USC, UCLA made their moves and no one knew it was coming until 2 days before official announcement.
Only he would know what his true motivation is at this time.
Now if you have 2 more AD's from the national brand schools speak out, you will know there are/will be negotiations at play .
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We wouldn't have been. At least not in 1990. The SEC had decided to expand from 10 to 12. They had already invited Arkansas as the 11th team, and were going to add one more. It is widely known that the three candidates for that 12th slot was USC, FSU and Miami, with the Seminoles being clear favorites due to their prominence at the time. FSU chose the ACC and Miami chose the Big East (Hurricanes weren't a great fit for the SEC anyway). USC benefited greatly from the way that all played out.
What would have happened if FSU had chosen the SEC back then? The ACC would not have offered South Carolina membership. They were only interested in FSU at the time. The best analogy I can think of for the Gamecocks' fate is West Virginia. South Carolina would have continued for several years in their unsustainable status quo of independent status in football and Metro membership in all other sports. They would operate in the red until being forced by desperation into jumping to an ill-fitting conference arrangement like the Big 12 (as WVU eventually did).
We may have received an SEC invite during subsequent rounds of expansion in 2013-14, but by then we would have been a much diminished brand, not nearly as attractive an option. It may well have never happened.
The day South Carolina officially joined the SEC - July 1, 1991 - is the single most consequential day in the history of the athletics department, and possibly of the University as a whole.
This morning I saw an article with the Clemson AD speaking about "their" need for "unequal" shares of the TV revenue. It seems that FSU and UPC
want to take some of the marbles away from everyone else.
I'll sit back and watch. Can you imagine the rancor this is causing across the conference? This could be fun.
FSU and Clemson have all said the same thing in the last few days. I believe Miami said something about it a few weeks ago but not sure. Smoke is definitely coming out of the ACC. Probably only embers though. It’s no secret the acc will have to do something if it wants to survive be it now or in 2036.
I will also say this. All contracts can be gotten out of. It comes down to the price. The growing disparity between conferences is giving more fuel to the schools that want out.
I’m also shocked that it will only cost 120 million to get out of the acc and the media deal. It’s being reported that that figure came from the ACC when the FSU board asked for a number to get out.
If that is the case and the big 10 or SEC has offered them or will, they would make that up in a couple years.
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In addition to being the Attendence Challeged Conference, seems to be an admission they are the Asset Challenged Conference crying for help and demeaning their under performing children!
Something tells me FSU and Clemson will turn out just fine in all this mess. Because I think before 2030 it will be a condensed version with 2 conferences. Big 10 and the SEC, each housing the biggest programs in the country. They will end up finding a home. Too much money in the viewership of those schools for them just to crash.
First of all, I'd be remiss if I did not thank Prestonyte for making us aware of this article. After reading it, I went over to Tigernet and read their comments about it. Their comments made my weekend. Thank you, Prestonyte.
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Full? I think it’s just getting started. There will be 20-26 before it’s all over. 2 conference college football is on the horizon I believe .I think the ACC will be about as exciting as a retirement home if FSU exits the conference. I’d like for FSU to come to the SEC, but the SEC is getting full. They better jump ship while they can.
No, you ain't seen "full" yet.I think the ACC will be about as exciting as a retirement home if FSU exits the conference. I’d like for FSU to come to the SEC, but the SEC is getting full. They better jump ship while they can.
26 teams? Even at 18 teams the conference champion will be the team with the easiest schedule.
Yes I like a lot of other people think before it’s all said and done the top 50 +/- will be in two conferences. I don’t see the team with the easiest schedule winning. That doesn’t even happen now.
It's often been reported that Vince Dooley was a big advocate for USC being selected as a member of the SEC. I've often wondered what Dooley's motive was for advocating South Carolina membership? Did he want to avoid playing FSU every year?? Just wondering.
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Possibly. Carolina and Georgia played yearly well before USC ever joined the SEC, so Dooley was quite familiar with the university and Columbia. Also, Dick Bestwick was USC AD for a short time in 1988, and Bestwick came from UGA. I’m sure Dooley had an interest in helping his friend Bestwick with finding USC a conference home.
Bestwick ultimately stepped down due to the pressure of the job - the Chaikin steroids scandal was playing out then, along with the related NCAA investigation. It was a highly stressful time to be a USC administrator.
After Bestwick’s departure, USC turned to King Dixon, who, despite his shortcomings, was integral in guiding USC through the NCAA investigation and quest for an SEC bid.
No comments, of any kind, that don't portray King Dixon's time as AD in an extremely negative light will be tolerated.