Football (and Lacrosse) great, Jim Brown, has passed away....

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I'm not old enough to remember his NFL career let alone his NCAA career. Did he play against Penn State?
 

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Pro bowl game circa 1966

Jim Brown in the front seat
I’m in the back
The hore he’s with reaches in his pants, and about passes out
She jumped right in the back with me
As told by Sonny Randle
 
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check 1955
From this link:

1955 - Old timers will tell you the 1955 game against Syracuse was the greatest football game in Penn State history. It featured two future NFL hall of fame running backs going toe to toe in Syracuse's Jim Brown and Penn State's Lenny Moore.


Both men carried their offenses that day smashing through the line play after play. One guy would score and then the other would respond. And they often found themselves meeting head to head as both guys also played defense and had to tackle each other all day. But at the end of the day it was Moore and the Nittany Lions who came out on top 21-20. In a day and age where it was rare to see a guy get more than 10 or 15 carries their final statistics were jaw dropping. Brown carried the ball for 159 yards on 20 carries, caught two passes, scored three touchdowns, kicked two extra points (missing one), ran back three kickoffs for 95 yards and intercepted a pass. Moore carried the ball 22 times for 146 yards and a touchdown.
 

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From this link:

1955 - Old timers will tell you the 1955 game against Syracuse was the greatest football game in Penn State history. It featured two future NFL hall of fame running backs going toe to toe in Syracuse's Jim Brown and Penn State's Lenny Moore.


Both men carried their offenses that day smashing through the line play after play. One guy would score and then the other would respond. And they often found themselves meeting head to head as both guys also played defense and had to tackle each other all day. But at the end of the day it was Moore and the Nittany Lions who came out on top 21-20. In a day and age where it was rare to see a guy get more than 10 or 15 carries their final statistics were jaw dropping. Brown carried the ball for 159 yards on 20 carries, caught two passes, scored three touchdowns, kicked two extra points (missing one), ran back three kickoffs for 95 yards and intercepted a pass. Moore carried the ball 22 times for 146 yards and a touchdown.
Does there somewhere exist a video of this game?

Edit: #doyourownresearch. I checked, came up with nothing.
 

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Does there somewhere exist a video of this game?

Edit: #doyourownresearch. I checked, came up with nothing.
PSU or Syracuse would have a 16 mm of the game I would bet. Just think if someone digitized those old films and sold them? Maybe find a stadium renovations
 
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The term GOAT is frequently overused but in this case it’s justified. He was a giant on and off the field and was a complicated man. Devoted to his activism at the highest level but frequently was on the other side of the fence in what you’d think were parallel areas. Obviously dedicated to civil rights but had a curious history with women. Critical of Obama yet supportive of Trump at times. I didn’t fully understand the “Ali Summit” but I was struck by Ali, Kareem, Russell, and Brown all appearing together in a photo that’s seared into my memory as a youngster. I also understood just enough at that age that there was something i found interesting about Raquel Welch and that she was in a movie with Jim Brown.

A titan for sure. RIP Mr Brown, you made the world interesting and you left a mark on athletics and pop culture. His likes don’t come around often.
 
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Absolutely. And it's not close.

I wish I could have seen him play lacrosse.
Not really. He forced 2 rule changes. He cut off his stick and held the ball in his stick against his chest and run down the field. When he was close he’d shoot the ball !!
They changed the min length of the stick as well as withholding the ball from play
 

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Ali, Kareem, Russell, and Brown
 
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Thank you for posting. I remember being struck how a youngster like Alcindor (Kareem) at the time was front and center. He was still a baby but his roots were already growing deep. I always found Kareem to be a very compelling figure. I’d love the opportunity to talk to him. I’m not sure we would agree on everything but I know I would respect him and realize the depth and thought process to whatever he said. Wooden’s two most interesting pupils had to have been him and Walton. I can still remember Wooden and can still hear him always referring to both by their formal names Lewis and William. Walton drove Wooden crazy but I’d surmise that Kareem was his perfect pupil.
 
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Not really. He forced 2 rule changes. He cut off his stick and held the ball in his stick against his chest and run down the field. When he was close he’d shoot the ball !!
They changed the min length of the stick as well as withholding the ball from play
To clarify, I think he was the GOAT among running backs. Such a rare combination of speed and power. And BTW, I think that Brown recognized that same quality in Saquon, because he gave Saquon a friendly reception from the get-go.

As for lacrosse, I'm not saying he was the GOAT in that sport, but I would nevertheless have loved to see him play attack (which I believe was his position). I have read the same reports as you, about him holding the ball in his stick against his chest and simply barreling down the field toward the opposing goal. He was invariably the fastest and strongest guy on the lacrosse field. He must have been a sight to behold. Can you imagine being a long stick defender and seeing him coming?! What, are you going to bash a guy that big repeatedly with your long stick? That would take some guts. He might break you in half.
 
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Thank you for posting. I remember being struck how a youngster like Alcindor (Kareem) at the time was front and center. He was still a baby but his roots were already growing deep. I always found Kareem to be a very compelling figure. I’d love the opportunity to talk to him. I’m not sure we would agree on everything but I know I would respect him and realize the depth and thought process to whatever he said. Wooden’s two most interesting pupils had to have been him and Walton. I can still remember Wooden and can still hear him always referring to both by their formal names Lewis and William. Walton drove Wooden crazy but I’d surmise that Kareem was his perfect pupil.
Mr. Tailgate: I had drinks tonight with a guy who is in his 70's, and who has traveled around a bit. He said that when he was in his late 20's or early 30's (he couldn't immediately recall the precise year), he was in a hotel in Cairo, and spotted this very tall dude with red hair. He went up and introduced himself and, sure enough, it was Walton (aka "Big Red"). Walton told him he was in town to see the Grateful Dead perform at the base of the Pyramids at Cheops. So this dude ups and goes with Walton to the concert. Says it was one of the more memorable moments of his life. I have to think that Walton stood out in that crowd. I forgot to ask him if they fired up any spleeth.
 

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Jim, Namath and Burt Reynolds made some absolutely horrible westerns.

Football, not acting was their fortay.
 

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Mr. Tailgate: I had drinks tonight with a guy who is in his 70's, and who has traveled around a bit. He said that when he was in his late 20's or early 30's (he couldn't immediately recall the precise year), he was in a hotel in Cairo, and spotted this very tall dude with red hair. He went up and introduced himself and, sure enough, it was Walton (aka "Big Red"). Walton told him he was in town to see the Grateful Dead perform at the base of the Pyramids at Cheops. So this dude ups and goes with Walton to the concert. Says it was one of the more memorable moments of his life. I have to think that Walton stood out in that crowd. I forgot to ask him if they fired up any spleeth.
Bear, most long time Deadheads will have a Walton story to tell. The official traveling circus to the Pyramids was very limited so Walton’s inclusion spoke volumes to his standing with the band. One of my favorite Walton Dead stories involved him seeing a person wearing a T-shirt before a show one night that caught his fancy. Walton approached the guy to tell him how much he liked it and the guy literally gave him the shirt off his back. After the show, Walton saw the guy again walking out without a shirt on and asked if he wanted to go to an after show party and meet the band. The guy said sure and Walton told the band that the guy he was with gave him the shirt. The Dead thought that was cool. The guy who gave Walton the shirt was named Dick Latvala who was hired by the Dead. He became very instrumental as an archivist and eventually was the person who picked live show tapes to be released periodically with the releases known as Dicks Picks. He selected 36 shows from the archives that were released until his passing with the series subsequently picked up and continued as Dave’s Picks which is now up to Dave’s Picks 46.

So Walton’s chance meeting with a guy at a show had an impact on both the Dead and became the life work of Dick Latvala. When asked one time Walton said that the Dead’s schedule became his life’s schedule.
 

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Bear, most long time Deadheads will have a Walton story to tell. The official traveling circus to the Pyramids was very limited so Walton’s inclusion spoke volumes to his standing with the band. One of my favorite Walton Dead stories involved him seeing a person wearing a T-shirt before a show one night that caught his fancy. Walton approached the guy to tell him how much he liked it and the guy literally gave him the shirt off his back. After the show, Walton saw the guy again walking out without a shirt on and asked if he wanted to go to an after show party and meet the band. The guy said sure and Walton told the band that the guy he was with gave him the shirt. The Dead thought that was cool. The guy who gave Walton the shirt was named Dick Latvala who was hired by the Dead. He became very instrumental as an archivist and eventually was the person who picked live show tapes to be released periodically with the releases known as Dicks Picks. He selected 36 shows from the archives that were released until his passing with the series subsequently picked up and continued as Dave’s Picks which is now up to Dave’s Picks 46.

So Walton’s chance meeting with a guy at a show had an impact on both the Dead and became the life work of Dick Latvala. When asked one time Walton said that the Dead’s schedule became his life’s schedule.
Laffyrear is persona non grata on TOS. Mr. Negative and who hates Penn State.
 

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Thank you for posting. I remember being struck how a youngster like Alcindor (Kareem) at the time was front and center. He was still a baby but his roots were already growing deep. I always found Kareem to be a very compelling figure. I’d love the opportunity to talk to him. I’m not sure we would agree on everything but I know I would respect him and realize the depth and thought process to whatever he said. Wooden’s two most interesting pupils had to have been him and Walton. I can still remember Wooden and can still hear him always referring to both by their formal names Lewis and William. Walton drove Wooden crazy but I’d surmise that Kareem was his perfect pupil.
Wooden was a crook.
 

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Laffyrear is persona non grata on TOS. Mr. Negative and who hates Penn State.
Wait, wut?! Under no circumstances do I "hate Penn State." My wife and two of my kids went there. I am a big PSU fan. My sense of it is this guy JohnJumba posts on the Test Board over at TOS, and is a dyed in the wool Trumper. Good effort with "Laffyrear," tho.
 
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