Thanks Dr. now analyze the guys that have complained about a logo for years.You have serious emotional issues.
Thanks Dr. now analyze the guys that have complained about a logo for years.You have serious emotional issues.
Well, our fan base has always mirrored the university: āConsistently inconsistentā******The current Banner M was designed by a branding company in 2009. It has been tweaked like 3-4 times since then.
The Banner M is the university logo. It's not going anywhere, and honestly there's nothing wrong with it. The jihad against it is really weird.
I think Selmon doesn't want to switch helmet logos because the move to the Script State was one of his first acts and there's a lot of sunk costs there. Also, *I believe* there's a lot of resistance in the administration to be being branding as "M-S-U."I've never seen or heard of an administration where they are intentionally not giving the customers what they want. That interview pissed me off more. Go to the interlocking emblem for football and let it be footballs thing just like the M over S is baseballs thing, it's not that freaking hard
Most recently I bought my daughter a Lulu sweatshirt from B&N.So where will you buy clothes?
Are you saying we should only have one logo across all sports and the overall university?Well, our fan base has always mirrored the university: āConsistently inconsistentā******
Man, Iāve got nothing against you, but this crap is nauseating. Since Iāve got time to burn this morning, I went back to look at the threads when he was hired in Jan23. Some excerptsā¦.Given that a decent portion of the fanbase, if SPS is considered representative, hated him as a choice before he ever got off the plane in Starkville, he'd do well to under promise and over deliver. Not that those fans will ever be on board regardless of results...
The whole logo debate is dumb and tiring. In the grand scheme of things of all the issues going on with State itās way down the list.Thanks Dr. now analyze the guys that have complained about a logo for years.
Well said.
Also, premium subscriptions (of which I will never belong) is license to pontificate.
Plus, why should I pay a premium for consuming more content on losing?*******
I always give the new administration a chance.
However, I would characterize what Iāve witnessed as āno promises and under deliveringā
No race implication intended. I recall people calling for his head when he didn't fire Lemonis as soon as his plane hit the ground (<---purposely over the top to get the point across lest LiterallyPolice make a resurgence) among other way too early takes on his capabilities. I have no idea if he does, or is going to, suck. I don't have time atm to go find the responses that I felt were either very early judgement, all the way to holding him responsible for things he was not even involved in, like promoting Arnett (yes, someone blamed him for that in a post).Man, Iāve got nothing against you, but this crap is nauseating. Since Iāve got time to burn this morning, I went back to look at the threads when he was hired in Jan23. Some excerptsā¦.
āGreat stuff. Like that Dude!ā - Mayor of LL
āI think he's just what we need right now.ā - Patdog
āTime will tell but think we just might have us a good one in Zac. With a fresh AD and for the most part a set of fresh coaches I'm pretty pumped about what the future might bring.ā - MSUDOG24
āThat's a level of professionalism we've never had at AD. With that being said, I think he'll do well and probably get hired by Oklahoma in 4 years.ā - Onewoof
āHe's been my # 1 choice / hope from the get go. His work history and fund raising results are awesome and he seems like a fine young man with high energy. I hate forced diversity (affirm action) but I Love diversity when it's earned.ā - Candoitsal
The worst thing I could find was a poster saying that the hire didnāt him the warm & fuzzies.
I know this is hard for some to imagine, but there are times when people are disappointed in a person simply because theyāre not doing a good job. Not because everyoneās a racist
The above is not a veiled accusation. It is a true statement. I have been guilty in the past of pontificating about all of the possible reasons that people are anxious to call him a failure. It is still a puzzle to me.This is what he was responding to:
He's been pretty consistent with this veiled accusation. So have a few other posters.
I think that "most" is a fair statement based on what I've seen/heard. And I do believe he needs to find something positive to point to in order to ease the current pain. I just don't know what would do that for football right now. It's hard for me to conjure up any hopeful scenarios near term. Ideally, hoops will live up to the hype and provide some fan relief. The sellout of season tickets for MBB tells me that if we have a competitive team fans will care and support them. I suppose that could be hopeful for football, but since there was not season 1 magic with Lebby, he is going to have to win first to get fans back.I disagree as I think most people have been generally pro-Selmon so far. But at some point youāve gotta make some things happen in that job. Heās not exactly the new guy anymore, in January heāll have been two full years on the job.
When the situation is bleak, youāve gotta give your fans something to latch onto and look forward to. If literally everything feels terrible and youāre not giving folks anything to look forward to, what incentive do people have to care?
I for sure don't want the marketing job for MSU football rn.I always give the new administration a chance.
However, I would characterize what Iāve witnessed as āno promises and under deliveringā
Just find a really good fertilizer salesman who has extensive experience marketing ÅħĒČā¦ **I for sure don't want the marketing job for MSU football rn.
so where does the rest of the Mississippi's population buy their clothes?**Most recently I bought my daughter a Lulu sweatshirt from B&N.
She's training to be a cage fighter, evidently, per Faulk.
Also Hadad was wrong. The Lulu line contains the Banner M and script &tate. It doesn't contain skinny msu so he tells people to go shop elsewhere.
Well you follow the Gospel of St. Larry or you follow the Gospel of St. Sewanee Athletics.Iām not a premium member which means I didnāt read the article. Considering that this is SPS, I know I can feel free to opine about this topic since uninformed commentary about MSU is one of our staples.
All of this is to ask: Did you really expect Selmon to say that weāre spending freely in a time when new budget items will be coming up that will require funding?
Of course not.
Itās to be expected that with this seal of the Athletics Apocalypse being broken that MSUās response would be to follow the Gospel of St. Larry in the Black.
The M State logo was drawn up by a student Mgr in the late 1980ās, like ā89 or maybe 1990 and given to Templeton and he loved it.
Possible that he took it to Richard Williams and asked his input but Williams DID NOT draw it on a napkin and nor was he the architect of the M State banner.
Said former Mgr is not receiving royalties from the image/logo due to Templeton being the cheap SOB he was/is!
Itās not weird. Itās generic and thatās why people donāt like it. To me it looks like it would be on the rack at Wal Mart.The current Banner M was designed by a branding company in 2009. It has been tweaked like 3-4 times since then.
The Banner M is the university logo. It's not going anywhere, and honestly there's nothing wrong with it. The jihad against it is really weird.
No, Iām saying we never stuck with a logo. Period.Are you saying we should only have one logo across all sports and the overall university?
This reminded me junior high school taunts of āLove your threads, You get āem at Fredās?ā****so where does the rest of the Mississippi's population buy their clothes?**
Have you seen almost every other college football helmet? They can't be much more generic.Itās not weird. Itās generic and thatās why people donāt like it. To me it looks like it would be on the rack at Wal Mart.
That entire interview sounded like an interview with Kamala Harris. It was nothing but word salad with no substance. Selmon has to go. We need a real A.D. in here!Looks like Banner M is here to stay. Fans can go kick rocks and an IPF will take until 2028 to get done. Lol
Someone always has to blame the Democrats in SPS******That entire interview sounded like an interview with Kamala Harris. It was nothing but word salad with no substance. Selmon has to go. We need a real A.D. in here!
If he was Peter Selmon from Iuka you wouldnāt have a gripeThat entire interview sounded like an interview with Kamala Harris. It was nothing but word salad with no substance. Selmon has to go. We need a real A.D. in here!
@dawgstudent, here's @horshack.sixpack's partner in crime.If he was Peter Selmon from Iuka you wouldnāt have a gripe
To be fair Fighting Irish would bĆtch about any AD no matter what.If he was Peter Selmon from Iuka you wouldnāt have a gripe
Let's face it, &tate is trying to copy Ole Miss.
Generic huh?Itās not weird. Itās generic and thatās why people donāt like it. To me it looks like it would be on the rack at Wal Mart.
Maybe not as much as you think.I disagree wholeheartedly. This reads like something an ole miss Twitter troll would say.
State script was a throwback logo featured on a baseball uniform that people really liked and clamored for. It was pretty organic until the current administration decided to lean into it probably too far.
I do agree that the banner M gets way too much hate and is worth keeping. The updated version is a massive improvement over the original from the 90s-early 00s, and it has some recognition value.
āGeneric?ā I respectfully disagree.Generic huh?
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Talk about generic logos. I could go on and on.
This whole discussion goes to show you the Mississippi State fan base is the most whiney-assed fan base in the country.
Iām not sure customers really are calling the interlocking logo. A certain age group is definitely calling for, an age group that is well represented by this board. There was plenty of merchandise with the interlocking logo available last year and I really donāt see many people wearing it. And the ones that are wearing it are usually in their 40ās.I've never seen or heard of an administration where they are intentionally not giving the customers what they want. That interview pissed me off more. Go to the interlocking emblem for football and let it be footballs thing just like the M over S is baseballs thing, it's not that freaking hard
A whiney *** discussion that you are fully engaged in. I guess what I meant was that there are a few other Mās with banners across them, therefore not setting itself apart. Anyway, Iād rather see the M over S for everything but thatās just my opinion. Iām a faithful bulldog and will continue to buy tickets, contribute to NIL, and wear whatever school logo to support my team.Generic huh?
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Talk about generic logos. I could go on and on.
This whole discussion goes to show you the Mississippi State fan base is the most whiney-assed fan base in the country.
2016. Thatās my favorite. The one after is ok.Thatās the only banner helmet I like