What you want here is irrelevant to Beamer and the team.
Gamecocks moving closer to new offensive coordinator
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How did we go from the phone ringing off the hook to the refurbished discount bin so quickly?
Good points. Failure in the nfl doesn't necessitate failure in cfb. You can see how it doesn't instill confidence though, right?
I can understand the "players like him" and "recruiter" points, but I don't like the way they can't be quantified/proven. (Players defended Muschamp too. )
Also, I could point out the tweet from above how certain players "like the hire", and how that's seemingly changed. But that is no real proof.
I noted that Scurburtt did not want to "comment". Maybe it's just me but, that non-comment actually says a lot.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not doing cartwheels over Loggains either. I had reservations about Shane being hired, and seem to recall a lot of angst among fans about him never being a coordinator. Kinda similar to the idea of hiring Loggains.
I remember thinking that we need to do something different than what we’ve been doing ( hiring old retreads, successful or not) if we’re ever going to have a long term successful program. Beamer seems to have that “it” factor, so I guess maybe that’s where my confidence lies if he thinks this is what the program needs
This. He couldn’t find a single guy who had successfully done it before? He was bragging just last week that the job is so much more attractive than 2 years ago.
The players are so excited about him that Lloyd and Bell are transferring right after finding out he's coming.
That's why I have come to the conclusion that Briles talked him into it. There's no other explanation for it. I don't know about you but, I find that disconcerting.
If we are told that, someone needs to ask Beamer the same question that Jay Leno asked Hugh Grant in 1995 when Grant was caught cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with prostitute Divine Brown: "What the hell were you thinking?".
Given the offensive performance this year, this should have been in the works for weeks with a ranked and vetted candidate list in hand and calls being made the day after Clemson. Saying we are not in a hurry leads me to believe we were not prepared. Ray Tanner was a great baseball coach but is very disappointing as an AD. AD's at other schools seem to be on top of these things.
Then please for the love of God go find another team. All you do is post
about the program nonstop.
Sad. Jesus, numbers don't lie.
Gamecocks moving closer to new offensive coordinator
The Gamecocks are moving closer to tabbing a new offensive coordinator for Shane Beamer's program in Columbia.www.on3.com
And his are bad.
He's not a rookie.
It's not rocket science.
Is Lloyd transferring/leaving? Didn’t Bell enter the portal before word about DL?
I think bell was prior, Lloyd did the thing where he scrubbed his profile of gamecock stuff. It's not official yet, but I think it's assumed.
I'm calling B. S. on this one. The rails were greased for Bell to leave long before this occurred and so far no one knows for sure about LLoyd, unless you talked to him personally.
I understand when some people say that Beamer has earned our trust to hire who he wants.
However, even with close family and friends, who I know personally and who have genuinely earned my trust, sometimes they make decisions and I have to ask them "why in the world would you do that?"
This is just an awfully, awfully, awfully big hire with a lot at stake.
I guess the one thing that should give us confidence is that Beamer is willing to basically stake his career on Loggains.
However, even with close family and friends, who I know personally and who have genuinely earned my trust, sometimes they make decisions and I have to ask them "why in the world would you do that?"
This is just an awfully, awfully, awfully big hire with a lot at stake.
I guess the one thing that should give us confidence is that Beamer is willing to basically stake his career on Loggains.
Even some of the most intelligent people in the world, do, at times, exercise poor judgment.
What is it with South Carolina and hiring tight end coaches? We can't even convince our tight ends to stay. This is frankly an embarrassment and exposes how the list of great experienced coordinators who were just lining up to come to South Carolina was all a lie. South Carolina is just not a destination anyone who wants to be upwardly mobile wants to come. We are a second tier school who can occasionally pull an upset or two, but we will never really sustain success here. There just isn't enough in state talent or money to make it happen. It hurts to say it, but this is more evident now. Yes we were 8-4 and finished up in an amazing fashion, but if this hire is true I think that just proves that we are not a destination anyone serious would want to go.Gamecocks moving closer to new offensive coordinator
The Gamecocks are moving closer to tabbing a new offensive coordinator for Shane Beamer's program in Columbia.
WTF does Tanner have to do with hiring an assistant football coach? That is totally left up the the HC and the BOT may have to approve the contract.
True.
I think Beamer has earned trust to the point that fans would have given the benefit of the doubt for a fringe, outside-the-box hire who wasn't in that top tier of candidates (Briles, Riley, etc). But Loggains isn't even fringe. The lingering question I have is this: what evidence is there that he can call plays? It's the same question we had with Satterfield. He'd mostly overseen underwhelming offenses in college. Loggains has only overseen underperforming offenses in the NFL. Is there ANYTHING from his body of work to suggest that he's a promising OC? And, this isn't a case of him being someone Beamer has worked with in the past, so he has a feel for the guy.
Yeah. From failed NFL OC to TE coach at your alma mater. Doesn't scream "qualified."
Do you think this is a case of Beamer going after Briles? Then Briles used our offer to get a huge pay raise from Arky. And then Briles selling Beamer on his TE coach (Loggains) as a consolation? If that happened and Beamer fell for that, it would make me question Beamer's intelligence and gullibility.
Totally beats me how he even ended up on Shane's radar. It can't be his qualifications.
I would sincerely hope that Shane consulted more than one source regarding the candidate. You have to get a fuller picture than one individual's perception.
I would hope that is not what happened. I can't fathom a head coach falling for that, but I've been wrong before.
What rationale can there be for Loggains even being on the list, much less the presumed primary candidate?
I can't see where he and Beamer have any previous connection. Until this past season, he was in the NFL his entire career. So this isn't a Satterfield situation...someone with a poor OC record, but someone that Shane knew personally.
If he's the choice, it's just an odd, odd, odd choice. As a fan, I don't think it's too much to ask "why?"
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If Loggains is Shane's choice, it is definitely an enigmatic one. Nothing much to point to that is conclusively in his favor or against him.
NFL experience is about all I could argue, if I was going to promote him. He was hired 3 times as an NFL oc.
Granted, all 3 stops were abysmal, but can failing at a higher level be a positive?
Beginning to believe it isn't indicative of anything. I still remember Charlie Weis marching into UND with his successful pro-style offense that was a "schematic advantage"....and then falling on his face using it. Too many differences between college and pro level. Who'd have thought a little known 5th round draft pick out of Michigan would become one of the greatist QBs to play the game.
According to Sports Illustrated, Loggains has accepted the OC job. Not excited about the hire, but gonna be supportive until he proves/disproves his OC skills in college.
Well since most of y’all are always wrong this should be a great hire!
I don't get the attraction of Loggains. There's just nothing in his record that's appealing. But, I, too, will support him unless given a reason not to next season. That being said, I look forward to Shane explaining, under questioning by sports media, what is it about the guy he found appealing and why, what tipped the scales in his favor.
Knowing how Carolina has worked with their hires in the past , I’m assuming it was a case of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd option turned us down so we went with this guy.
You know it will be typical coachspeak. I would not expect anything else. And that's not a knock on Shane, just the nature of the business.
He did coach Jay Cutler to his most productive season. If we run a simplified version of what we saw the last two games, it could be a very pleasant surprise next year.