Get Rid of Franklin
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I’d move to LA in a minute but moms says no way
this would be my playground
and this my tool
I applaud your mother for having the sense to not let you spend your life on a street corner.
People would like to see an occasional win against OSU. It’s not unreasonable to want to move on from this. It’s been awhile. “Be careful” just brings the same results.
Bob: I could be wrong, but I think the dearth of donations has a whole lot to do with the roster of self-serving cretins who have served on the Penn State Board of Trustees in recent years and, in particular, their treatment of Paterno, Spanier, Schulz and Curley. I realize it has been a number of years, but their actions were SO inexcusable that they are difficult to forget or forgive.I have no doubt that Penn State could be much higher. That said, I’d love to see a poll on why people are not donating or not donating very much. Is it how Joe was treated? Penn State’s leaderers (could relate to Joe but could relate to many other things)? Franklin? They don’t support Penn State being in the NIL.game? For some folks, it could be some or all of the above.
agree- but I suspect that a bigger factor is the refusal of the insiders to even listen to the alumni and the total lack of transparency as to where the money is going
Edit made... maybe you can understand it now because you obviously cannot use context clues. Sorry for the confusion.
It is easy to get you confused though.
You can’t read thru some obvious autocorrects?
Penn State is no certain playoff team. They have a couple of games they could easily lose. And Franklin has a track record of doing just that.
In addition, with PSU’s inability to stretch the field, they are vulnerable against any team. And, because of that, PSU is incredibly unlikely to win a playoff game should they sneak in.
Absolutely. Plus Paterno would have had a physical team. Not one that gets pushed around and still runs their mouths.
Well lets look at those "great years" had schedules that were in large part avg at best we can look at 77-78 teams as a sample for that
77 unranked Kentucky loss?? #9 Houston win all that impressive?
78 OSU Maryland wins devastating Bama loss Temple Rutgers TCU SMU?? beating up on crappy teams is a familiar bedfellow
but if were to look at the "great years" as a whole, if we are using the Record vs top 5 teams over 25 years as someone mentioned from 2000 till now
ok lets go back 50 years to 74 and look at 74-99
schedules really demanding? records vs top 5 teams reg schedule and bowl game :: 13-20 ------[10-7] of which won from 78 to 86 an 8 year span
so maybe the statement should be not relevant since the late 80's if this is the bar (record vs top 5 teams) to be measured by... just sayin
74 no teams
75 2 teams 0-2
76 2 teams 0-2
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78 2 teams (insert) 1-1
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81 1 team 1-0
82 4 teams 3-1
83 3 teams 2-1
84 2 teams 1-1
85 1 team 0-1
86 2 teams 2-0
87 no teams
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90 1 team 1-0
91 1 team 0-1
92 1 team 0-1
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95 1 team 0-1
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For a period of a few years, Penn State was substandard. For the rest of Paterno’s career long and storied career they were at or close to the top. They even beat o$ U during the down years!
I don’t need to look it up, I attended those games in person - including late season win against #1 rated teams ON THE ROAD.
v Top 5 opponents under Paterno (season record):
2011: Loss (8-1 under Paterno)
2010: Loss (7-6)
2009: N/A (11-2)
2008: Loss (11-2)
2007: Loss (9-4)
2006: Loss, Loss, Loss (9-4)
2005: N/A (11-1)
2004: N/A (4-7)
2003: N/A (3-9)
2002: Loss (9-4)
2001: Loss (5-6)
His last 11 years v. Top 5: 0-9
Franklin's 11 years: 95-40 (.704)
Paterno's final 11: 87-46 (.654)
Franklin's record v. Top 5: 1-13
While these included some (but not all) of Paterno's "dark years," they also include Franklin's early years, trying to pull the program out of the shadow of the Sandusky scandal.
Franklin is in his 14th year as head coach. Paterno’s 14th year was 1979. He played for a national championship the year before. Then from 1980 to 1986, he went 9-6 against top 5 teams (see post above). Paterno’s growth as a coach really showed. Franklin has time left on his contract to show what he can do.
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Passive-aggressive, hypocritical, obstinate, argumentative, lying, incompetent and illiterate ... you sure showed a lot of great traits for a guy who was only trying to help by not helping at all. Glad we have you around to tell everyone what should and shouldn't be allowed on the board - leadership by example, no doubt.
Dude ... this is what you posted:
I had no idea what you were trying to convey there. First you seemed to be saying the season isn't over, in snarky fashion, but then you later said something about the season IS over, and in between you were talking about competing with our Wars, which made absolutely no sense, had no obvious autocorrect translation/explanation and didn't connect the two apparently conflicting statements at all. So, no, I couldn't read through some "obvious autocorrects."
PSU isn't a certain playoff team - no team is - but they're a VERY, VERY solid bet. They don't have a couple of games they could easily lose ... they have games they'll be expected to win, fairly comfortably ... but, of course, it's college football and off weeks and upsets happen.
Franklin actually DOES NOT have a track record of doing that. In fact, the constant refrain from the crybaby spoiled brat haters is that he wins the games he's supposed to win, and loses the games we're supposed to lose. We're supposed to win all our remaining games, at least up until the playoffs.
We're 11th in FCS in yards per play. Our actual downfall in our only loss of the season was an inability to punch it in from short yardage (in 2 separate scenarios). I'll wait to see our chances in our very likely playoff game until I see how healthy we are and who our opponent is. I generally like how we match up against most of the possible first round opponents.
For me, this is it. Joe's been dead for a while and all of those on the BOT at the time are gone. Yes, the stench lingers, but that wouldn't have been enough for me not to consider giving at this point in time. The recent stuff is the reason why. I cannot trust the BOT to be fiscally responsible with my donations, nor can I trust them to run the university in a transparent manner--Not to mention playing childish games with board members they don't like--and getting slapped down by a judge. I can understand them not liking Barry. But Lubrano?? Ditto the Alumni Association.
You forgot sarcastic. The lowest form of comedy.
Getting called hypocritical by an inactive member of the bar may be one of the things I am most proud of on this board. You made my day.
I can read and write, so I'm not sure illiterate is correct. I can even read and understand what others write when they make typos.
I am not here for your enjoyment, so I don't care if you are glad to have me on this board. Never asked to be a leader here, so I do not give darn if you like my example or not.
But most of all, I am kind. I never wish anyone ill will and I do not mock, or show insincere concern to, or post condescendingly towards people who admittantly have mental issues. And it that way I will always be a better person than you.
Or drops their sack in an opponent's face in front of the world for no reason other than to be a di**.
Sure it does. If we had lost to Delaware we wouldn’t be in the conversation for a playoff spot.
Sure it does. It's why we are tanked #6 in the country. Every single win matters and not just to us fans but it matters to the program. It matters to the players, the coaches and all other staff that have worked their tails off to win those games because those wins don't just show up in the standings on Sunday. They still have to do all of the work needed to go out and play those games.
I get that to you it doesn't matter. If you only want to care about the program when everything is going perfectly that's your prerogative. But to the people that actually matter, every single of those wins matter. Can I assume you didn't watch any of the games this season prior to the Ohio State game? If you did watch them why would you watch something that doesn't matter, at all?
I watched sporadically, attended the USC game and will watch the rest of the way. Did you watch every play of the Kent state game? 4 hours you can’t get back
Yes, I watched all of the Kent State game. I don't want any of those hours back. I enjoyed all of them.
You tried comedy?
Wut? What does being or not being an inactive member of a bar association have to do with hypocrisy, and taking joy in said alleged hypocrisy? Use your words.
Hey, I like the positive attitude, Stuart. You are good enough, you are smart enough, and gosh darnit, people like you! Keep repeating it and it may happen!
That's why I won an agreement!
"Admittantly" isn't a word. But you keep trying! Say it again ... "I can read and write" "I can read and write" "I can read and write" ...
What mental issues did you admit you have? Help me help you. I apologize for mocking any of your mental issues ... but I wasn't aware you admitted to any (though I have my suspicions).
P.S. You haven't seemed very kind here. In fact, you've been mean since the start.
You forgot that you're also humbler.
The biggest issue I have with the loss was the 4 plays from inside the 5. All last year we get Pribula quite often to add that running option at QB in this spot. All this year we see AK and JF constantly running gimmick stuff, often to good results. Weird line formations, Warren at all positions, etc. Yet in the biggest set of downs in your coaching career, on 4 plays, your three best offensive options were involved exactly 1 time. Allar throwing on 4th. That's it. No Warren, no Singleton. Just a play set out of Paterno 1971 playbook. Warren had just made the entire OSU defense look like the local peewee league, yet nothing. Just unforgivable.
It was not me that you mocked. it was this guy.
I really have never started an argument outside of the speed limit one with you. Which was in good fun. I never have these types of interactions with anyone else one this board.
This all started b/c you didn't understand that "abd" was a typo from some other poster. I clarified it for you and instead of a "thanks" I get now do the rest of his post. Like I am some type of servant of yours. Then I said no I'm not here for your entertainment l, you got all pissy pants and accused me of not be able to understand it. Now, here we are. BTW the rest of his post was really simple to understand.
We won every game until this past Saturday. A W is a W. Quite a few people have seen every minute of every game. Life sucks and having your favorite team be undefeated and ranked #3 lightens the load. And we’re still alive for the playoffs. Remember that in ‘82 we were not undefeated.
The issue Isn’t beating the hens 9 times, it’s not beating O, OSU and Michigan. I’m shocked beating Kent by 60 makes people so happy.
With all due respect, eff right off with that noise. I did not mock the guy. I was helping him. He stated, in the past, that he flew off the handle as to game outcomes, and he found out it was caused by ADHD and other issues. He also stated that, since he found out about it, and addressed it, he had been better. And now he's flying off the handle again ... and I highlighted that, so he can see that perhaps he needs to readdress/recalibrate things, and I suggested he address it.
So ... the sum result of this is that you incorrectly bashed someone who is only trying to help someone else, and you did so while patting yourself on the back for allegedly being a kind, good person. That's absolute trash.
Take responsibility for your actions, rather than blaming someone else for them. My issue was never about the "abd" portion of the post. The exchange had absolutely NOTHING to do with you, yet you felt compelled to wrongfully interject and judge.
Then you repeated the same problematic behavior above with the "mental issues" situation.
It's not shocking to see that you couldn't stand behind your hypocrisy comment. I'd run away from that, too, if I were you. Spend the time you'd waste responding to me trying to figure out why you feel so insecure that you're targeting me, and doing so in such a pathologically passive-aggressive manner based on fraudulent pretenses.
If your tone is not mocking... idk. I'll give that.
"Are you OK? Should we send over help?" might be your most prevalent post.
It is usually posted after you are unable to understand someone else's post as in;
Poster: "And....jeeze I thought it was obvious."
Moogy: "Wut? I have no idea what you're talking about. Are you OK? Should we send over help?"
Translates (by me) to you must be having some type of medical or mental issue if you (Moogy) cannot understand your post. Maybe that is not what that means.
I only ever posted to you about the "abd". you know because when the original poster clarified it with "And....jeeze I thought it was obvious." you replied with... you know. Abd
that is when I got involved.