Why? so yall can waste it making terrible decisions? Mississippi State athletics is poorly ran. Time for a new booster group to take over and boot the ones currently in control.
GiVe uS MoRE MoNEy!!!
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One of the better scout teams I've seen us put on the field. Although the body language looks like a spring game, I love that 1-2 players are fighting hard for more playing time.
Just blindly giving tons of money is not always the solution. You could end up with crappy teams that are highly paid, like the Cleveland Browns or Seattle Mariners...these teams suck but they are rich / well paid.
Administrators need to go. Major overhaul required
Imagine having your bank draft set up and then having to watch that ragtag staff that Lebby put together. Could never be me.
There will be pain. We got started behind the curve. The funds will work to sign players, before they are already GONE, next season.
Just like our government, demands money, get less in results..........
No thanks. Grew up in the wrong damn state. Lucky for me I got out and got another degree from elsewhere. I grew up being a state fan but Damn tired of the crappy administration. We haven't made many smart decisions since Keenum was hired.
He’s right. We are poorly run right now. Doesn’t hurt to admit the truth.
Right? Surely it's not too much to ask of our administration to better than Toledo and dead man walking Florida. I will agree Florida had more talent but they have been poorly coached. Suddenly they look a lot better against us. Toledo no way in hell they should drub as home or away
You and I dont always agree but this we agree on. I'm so tired of poor decisions being made at msu and then those people asking me for money for support. Its like giving the alcoholic begging for money 20 bucks. You know they about to go spend it on alcohol. Now if someone comes in that I have confidence in making better decisions might be more willing. But right now whatever boosters are in charge haven't made wise choices. I don't feel like Keenum has made many for us. He is very focused on his national role.
If Cohen was still here, would we be in this position today after the death of Leach? I didn't like Cohen but he was a Miss State guy hiring the best he could get. Selmon I don't about him. I have a bad feeling he will hire buddies.
Cohen made some bad moves but usually corrected them with better hires. I wish they would have followed the leach model after his death of going to get someone some experience and winning as a head guy. Guys like cignetti were right there. We have lebby for 2-3 years so he better make some changes or we did our hole deeper
They should give us money for watching this **** show.
If he doesn't make changes in the off season, ticket sells will go down. donations will slow and the entire fan base will be really pissed off. Also if not, this will be his first and last HC job.
I know how these guys feel. I was the same way the second year of Moorhead because I THOUGHT he was here no matter what for another year after that, so may as well support and hope it gets better. Deep down, we all knew he sucked (especially you - I remember). I just don’t have that energy any more. And thankfully, Cohen cut that rip cord.
HELL NO! Cohen was substance, Salmon is style. Style don’t work at MSU.
Lebby can figure out the offense I think, the offense has flashes. But the defense. Him completely ignoring the defense and hiring a bunch of dudes with zero good background was a terrible sign and thing to do. If you don't understand line of scrimmage is where changes are won, you aren't going to win much. MSU must always have guys that can do more with less like Mullen or Leach. Picking OU coordinators or Penn State coordinators where they always have great players is not usually good for MSU. We need developers or evaluators. Lebby did originally come from Baylor tree so I had hope he would pull more of that Briles system. Whether people like it or not we will always be behind on Money. NIL or not, nothing has changed there. It's just out in the open now. If we raise 8 mil the richer school will raise 16. We need good evaluators and developers. Because MSU will lose if we play keep up with the Jones's.
Moorhead did too, against shltty teams. But against anyone with a pulse it’ll be like hitting a brick wall. With cinder blocks behind it.
After watching this team, in all aspects, offense included, are you convinced this is the guy to invest in so heavily?
It doesn't look good for sure if we can't beat Toledo or score more than 28 against Florida. I expect Texas to be 70-0
I know you didn’t ask this part, but to elaborate on my statement about the internal system that somebody mentioned above, his GM wasn’t hired until January, so he has had more time to get up to speed, and the Athletic Department has also recently added significant resources (including a former football player at Missouri) to stay on top of the game on football rev share / NIL, etc. aspects. Because of this, I think there will be much more evaluation time - including on the existing roster as well as transfers - and I think they will be in a position to be much more aggressive / strategic / planned, etc. this year, particularly with the recent announcement.
As to whether this is to place the investment, I know this is a tough time to try to make an argument for or against. I do believe, though, that this has to work and that if we don’t give it every chance, we will just guarantee that we are stuck in this same bad cycle.
Charlie, FWIW, I’ve got a friend/down the road land owner that recruits money for large funds. He’s got Lebby as a client. “He says” Lebby reminds him of a young Jackie Wayne. We’ll see.
Thank you Charlie for your contribution, and input. But, from the fans side, NOTHING has changed, NOTHING. You may see it but we don't see anything but same ole same ole. Matter of fact, we are seeing less than we saw last season. How are we supposed to buy in to that? You are talking I assume about internal changes but fans don't give 1 hoopty rah about internals, it's on the field improvement we look for and it's not there. Bless you!
No, I get it. I’m not at all trying to say life is great - it’s not. And it will probably get worse (or at least be as bad quite a few more times) before it gets better. Ultimately, though, we need a way out of this hole we are in, and I am hopeful that the improvements the athletic department put in place for football will help. Maybe not, but I’m hoping that having a GM in place with in-house support will give them a clearer path. Tough day, and I probably shouldn’t have inserted myself. I am just glad to say that the approach will be different (and hopefully more transparent in the near future).
From a true Mississippi State perspective, different is good.
Why are yall dumbasses comparing Lebby to Moorhead? Moorhead had a great team and he screwed it up. Y'all want Lebby to turn chicken **** into chicken salad.
Charlie appreciate what you do, but I agree the product on the field is
right now we look like the fcs team against G5 schools. Lebby missed on DC and he doesn't need to stay the entire season. Or he needs to have replacement hired on cyber Monday. They need to be proven and be able to recruit. We are horrendous on defense and the offense is not the innovation we were promised, today was not enjoyable 3 weeks in a row. I'm interested in seeing how the hearing goes on Thursday. This is not sustainable for us. Players need a flat salary from the University and then NIL needs to be what it was intended, "I'm going to be at pap's place my favorite catfish joint on Thursday signing autographs join me for dinner," says whatever player. Also contractual obligation to the school for the money with morality clauses. Now I'm just pie in the sky. I give to BC and BI but this is the worst I've seen in my 20+ years as a fan.
Because he’s the exact same. Just because they inherit differenr circumstances doesn’t mean they arent similar you simple minded……nevermind.
You're a ******* idiot. You have no idea if they are the same or not. Talent absolutely makes a difference.
well Selmon came in ...fired most of the staff in the Bulldog Club, he brought in people who have no connection to the university so that decisions will be based on the future plans rather than the good ole boy past. he conducted an extensive survey to let All the bulldog club members to give their input ...and you could be as detailed as you want ...AND you got 200 Bulldog Club points .....he changed how Points are calculated ...you get more points for giving beyond the seat donation and club fees .he created the Cristi Society to recognize the people who actually give money. im Sure there are a lot who no longer have access or get "favors" ...
if you think what is going on in the football program...is Selmon's fault ...you are mistaken ...if you didn't see this coming since 2021 ..neither Leach nor Arnett recruited defenaive players ....
this Program needs stability more than anything....it's the first time we have had an AD who is willing to take on the good ole boys and shake up the way we do things....so I'm willing to see how things play out...
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