Good topic from True Maroon - What game did you realize we might need to move on from Arnett?
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Friend,
The opener against Southeastern Louisiana showed some concerns with the offense, but I quickly attributed that to first game jitters. I was one of the few that saw Arizona as a much improved team and thought that game would be a tossup.
The LSU game proved to me that Coach Arnett was way over his head. Here we were with 18 returning starters from a nine win team and we looked like a middle school team. Stupid penalties, bad route running, awful blocking scheme. I wasn't expecting to beat LSU but we looked lifeless.
Coach Arnett is a good guy, from all accounts. He's just not ready to be an SEC head coach. I wish him luck in his next role as defensive coordinator at a Power 5 institution. His next head coaching job will come in the Group of 5, and I hope he has great success.
Sincerely,
615
Dawg walk at South Carolina. Looked like a bunch of zombies got off the bus. No emotion, no focus.
He just came across to me in his in game and post game live interviews as someone who had absolutely no business being a P5 football head coach from the start .
Arkansas. Starting the second half of the season, behind an off week, and no appreciable improvement in the offense combined with a defensive outcome that while solid, still felt like fools gold. If you haven't improved midway through the season, you aren't being coached.
SELA thought, Hum, re-education may take a little longer than expected
Arizona eyebrows raised
Western really concerned because we still aren't flashing on what should be a lesser opponent
Arkansas time to change, it ain't gonna work
Arizona eyebrows raised
Western really concerned because we still aren't flashing on what should be a lesser opponent
Arkansas time to change, it ain't gonna work
Western Michigan. We made a 3rd stringer look like Joe Burrow in front of a quiet crowd of less than half-full stadium. By fourth quarter it was like it was empty and a practice game was going on. CZA seemed bothered that he had to be there. I told my son then he needed to go.
Same, Arkansas game. Coaching decisions and our offensive ineptitude. I had my suspicions in the SELA first half though.
I posted in the "SELA Instant Reaction" Thread that I was concerned about our offense only scoring when they got a huge play and never once showed the ability to march down the field. Got flamed and ridiculed by the likes of Rupert Jerkins, AlCoDog, BulldogBlitz, Schrodingers Dawg, IBleedMaroonDawg, Crazy Cotton (yeah, I'm not too lazy to go back and look it up). Same guys that started saying some of the same things as the season unfolded. How 'bout that.
LSU. He just had this clueless look on his face the whole game. But I had concerns early just because of the change in his demeanor.
The live f bomb/giggle about it after the Arizona game with Cubelic was a big not quite ready for prime time moment.
You know the guy wasn’t commanding any respect in the locker room with obvious insecurity like that.
Here was my thought process through the season:
SELA - ok, slow start, but new coaches/season/scheme whatever
Arizona - Oof, ok, got some things to clean up, maybe this was a wake up call
LSU - we lost ugly to LSU. What else is new?
South Carolina - Ok, we lost, but showed some flashes of being good. Maybe SC is not a bad team.
Bama - we lost ugly to Bama. What else is new?
WMU - Our defense sucks. What the actual 17?
Arkansas - oh hey, the defense showed up, but our offense really 17ing sucks without Will. Still have a shot at 6 wins, then we can reevaluate.
Auburn - so we suck on both sides of the ball. ok, just get through the season then find a new coach.
Kentucky - welp, there goes a bowl. Even if we squeak through, end it on Black Friday.
A&M - ok, we’re on a 3rd string QB, but HOW IS THE DEFENSE THIS BAD?!? we’re going to lose to Southern, aren’t we?
So, I’d say the seeds were planted with WMU, but I was ready to move on by Auburn.
SELA - ok, slow start, but new coaches/season/scheme whatever
Arizona - Oof, ok, got some things to clean up, maybe this was a wake up call
LSU - we lost ugly to LSU. What else is new?
South Carolina - Ok, we lost, but showed some flashes of being good. Maybe SC is not a bad team.
Bama - we lost ugly to Bama. What else is new?
WMU - Our defense sucks. What the actual 17?
Arkansas - oh hey, the defense showed up, but our offense really 17ing sucks without Will. Still have a shot at 6 wins, then we can reevaluate.
Auburn - so we suck on both sides of the ball. ok, just get through the season then find a new coach.
Kentucky - welp, there goes a bowl. Even if we squeak through, end it on Black Friday.
A&M - ok, we’re on a 3rd string QB, but HOW IS THE DEFENSE THIS BAD?!? we’re going to lose to Southern, aren’t we?
So, I’d say the seeds were planted with WMU, but I was ready to move on by Auburn.
It’s not a good excuse, but it’s really not a good excuse when the starting QB wasn’t being used correctly in the first damn place.
The comment he made about telling the OC to be conservative after the Arizona game (I believe) was cause for concern. After Arkansas, the decision was easy, the only question was timing.
KY game no question for me, defense holds them to 287 and 17 points and we can only muster 3, and give them a pick six at home with a good atmosphere for at least the first half. Yeah he needed to go no question for me at that point, I had run out of patience
It was a gradual thing. But there was a troubling comment after the South Carolina game where Will Rogers talked about how he and Tulu drew up the big pass plays on their own. It reminded me of Croom's only good year when Wes Carroll just said f it, I'm running the option.
and several of them were still saying it up until last Monday
I forget what game it was. Either our second or third game. The sideline reporter said Will Rogers had told her he didn't know the playbook yet.
Illinois - wrote it off as emotion
Arizona - seriously concerned at how hard it was to win that game
WMU - I was there and saw it with my own eyes. Embarrassing. I knew it had to end and was ready.
Auburn - I thought we would pull the trigger on Sunday or Monday and was disappointed/angry that he survived the week
TAMU Saturday - Gut Gott Amighty why is he still employed?
TAMU Sunday - GUT GOTT AMIGHTY WHY IS HE STILL EMPLOYED?
TAMU Monday - IT'S ABOUT DERN TIME SUMBOTTY WENT AND DID IT!
Arizona - seriously concerned at how hard it was to win that game
WMU - I was there and saw it with my own eyes. Embarrassing. I knew it had to end and was ready.
Auburn - I thought we would pull the trigger on Sunday or Monday and was disappointed/angry that he survived the week
TAMU Saturday - Gut Gott Amighty why is he still employed?
TAMU Sunday - GUT GOTT AMIGHTY WHY IS HE STILL EMPLOYED?
TAMU Monday - IT'S ABOUT DERN TIME SUMBOTTY WENT AND DID IT!
I was in denial for the first 4-5 games. Guys still seemed to be playing hard, new system, etc. Honestly it was his dudebro attitude in interviews, his sulky-*** sideline demeanor that finally put me over the edge. Getting paid a couple of million to act bored and disinterested on the sideline isn't gonna cut it, and not being able to articulate any clear way to progress other than doing the same things harder than you're doing them now doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.
Basically he doesn't have the maturity to handle the job at this point in his career, and the reality of big-time football is nobody gets those years as a head coach to develop anymore.
Basically he doesn't have the maturity to handle the job at this point in his career, and the reality of big-time football is nobody gets those years as a head coach to develop anymore.
The three game stretch of LSU, Bama and SC where the opposing starting QBs completed any and every pass they wanted. Our defense has never looked as outmatched.
Daniels 30-34
Milroe 10-12
Rattler 18-20
~88% completion percentage.
After we made W Michigan's 3rd QB look like Tom Brady and lost Rogers on a stupid playcall I wanted it to happen before season's end.
Daniels 30-34
Milroe 10-12
Rattler 18-20
~88% completion percentage.
After we made W Michigan's 3rd QB look like Tom Brady and lost Rogers on a stupid playcall I wanted it to happen before season's end.
When he announced he was changing the offense and he let Spurrier, Hollingshead and Miller go, I knew we were in trouble.
SELA started it, and it was apparent after Arizona.
SELA started it, and it was apparent after Arizona.
After months of hearing the party line about how much time Rogers & Barbary had spent on this & his they were on the same page with everything. If Will didn’t understand the playbook, you know none of the other players did either. Never seen a coaching staff so completely unfit for the job.
Arkansas game started the disgust and downhill roll for me and then seeing the Auburn game sent me over the edge. No change in any aspect of any game planning. No halftime adjustments in any game. If anything we got worse in the second half it seemed like. For the first time in years I didn’t watch a single snap of a game against Kentucky and A&M. I already knew what that would look like. I’ve never been more disgusted with an OC like I am with Barbay. Unwatchable offense with players making inexcusable mistakes in week 8+ games running into each other and stuff like that. Horrible hire for Arnett that cost him a second year
Arizona. Everyone filed out of the stadium feeling like a loss. My brother said “I can’t believe we have to go through this again (rebuilding).” Incredibly sad to hear those words.
LSU. After the opening game I thought we had issues, and we were lucky to beat Arizona. LSU made us look totally like an early Croom coached team.
To be honest with you it was after the third drive against LSU where we only had five total yards and I’m thinking What the 17 are we doing?
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