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b/c I think he gives us the best chance to have a team .360 .330 BA.
In all seriousness, I probably would pick Casey simply b/c he has had more success at OSU than Cohen has had at UK. I think either would be a good choice and I think Cohen would be more likely to come than Casey.
I really want no part of Showalter.
In all seriousness, I probably would pick Casey simply b/c he has had more success at OSU than Cohen has had at UK. I think either would be a good choice and I think Cohen would be more likely to come than Casey.
I really want no part of Showalter.
The MSU baseball job is still easily one of the 10 best jobs in the country, and arguably in the top 5. If Casey can win a national title at Oregon St., he can win one at Mississippi State. But at MSU, he'd have a lot of things that Oregon State just can't offer. Much better facilities (although OSU's stadium is nice), better weather, a lot more publicity, higher profile, etc. etc. I don't know if he'd be interested or not, but MSU baseball is one of those jobs that nobody in college baseball, and I mean nobody, is just going to flat turn it down without at least giving some thought to it.
we should sell our soul to the devil to hire that guy.
What does Buck Showalter bring to the table? He's never recruited, never dealt with scholarship limitations, and has spent most of his life playing guys that others developed. Oh and everytime he gets fired, the guy that takes over wins more than he did.
We are just now getting rid of a guy who drew recruits on name alone, let's not go for that angle again.
What does Buck Showalter bring to the table? He's never recruited, never dealt with scholarship limitations, and has spent most of his life playing guys that others developed. Oh and everytime he gets fired, the guy that takes over wins more than he did.
We are just now getting rid of a guy who drew recruits on name alone, let's not go for that angle again.
just not your choice? Hes a dog and one that has gone to a graveyard of a job and brought them to a very competitive team.
Casey and then Cohen for me
Casey and then Cohen for me
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Maybe it's the MSU paranoia, but I just don't see us swiping a coach from a repeat National Championship team.
After years of settling with the easy way out, it would be unbelievable to bring in a coach like that. We'll see. I still don't think we really have a chance with somebody like that. I almost think it will take a southerner to understand what MSU baseball really can be.
how the hell do you come up with Mississippi State being a top five job in the country?
On what criteria are you basing this?
On what criteria are you basing this?
There are very few schools in the country that can match what MSU has to offer. You've been on this board long enough that if you've read my posts over the years, you know that rampant emotionalism is the last words anybody would use to describe my posts.
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basing it on the things patdog wrote. Top 5 would be tough.....****, Miami, Texas, Fullerton, Florida State, LSU.....that's 5 better ones right there.</p>
your list is simply the teams that have won the most.
The only real thing we have going against us is that we don't have as much academic money as a lot of schools, but its not nearly as bad as GP would like you to think. Our main problem is that we just target average players, our coach doesn't mind losing, our coach isn't agressive, and our coach's focus is elsewhere.
The only real thing we have going against us is that we don't have as much academic money as a lot of schools, but its not nearly as bad as GP would like you to think. Our main problem is that we just target average players, our coach doesn't mind losing, our coach isn't agressive, and our coach's focus is elsewhere.
....my list looks like this in order:
Casey
Fox (at UNC)
O'Conner
Corbin
Tanner
McDonnell
Cohen
Smith
Raffo
Note: Casey is from Oregon, and Fox is coaching at his alma mater.
Casey
Fox (at UNC)
O'Conner
Corbin
Tanner
McDonnell
Cohen
Smith
Raffo
Note: Casey is from Oregon, and Fox is coaching at his alma mater.
...and this year is a big year for him in my eyes. So far, he's had a great year and a terrible year, and that's all we've got to go by. They are currently in last place in the East, and even though that's only 2 games out of second, I want to see them do something this year before I feel comfortable with John. It would be one thing if he'd won multiple championships, hosted multiple regionals, etc., but he's only done it once, so I want to see them do something this year.
than Fullerton, Miami or Florida St. I'm not talking about past performance of teams on the field. We're not even in the top 20 if that's the criteria. But Polk has always been way overrated as a coach. If we had coaches as good as those schools have had, we'd have a hell of a lot more wins over the years than we do.
someone on here the other day referred to us as a sleeping giant. That was a great description. Just last year we broke the SR two day attendance record in support of a team that got lucky enough to back into an away regional & then got hot. We have facilities & fan support that are 2nd to none. If a coach believes that he can come in & make us a national contender, the place will explode with fan support, new monetary giving & even bigger & better facilities. We just need someone to lead us beyond the just good enough mentality (meaning just good enough to win a SEC tourney every 5-7 years, just good enough to host a regional every few years, etc.)
which is why your post begged the question.
My point is this; the head coaching gig at State is not the plum it once was. The gap b/n ya'll and the rest of the college baseball world has closed significantly in the last few years. I left for college in 1993 and at that time, there is no doubt that recruiting wise, State could pretty much cherry pick who they wanted in the state. As my expanding waistline will attest, times change.
Also, once we're done with our stadium next spring, you won't even have the best facilities in the state. Look around. LSU, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Ole Miss will have better stadiums than ya'll next spring.
As for overall resources, I'm not really sure what you're referring to. Scholly numbers are the same for y'all as everyone else. It's not like you have a bigger budget either to offer assistants or some super secret advantage that others in the conference don't have.
My point is this; the head coaching gig at State is not the plum it once was. The gap b/n ya'll and the rest of the college baseball world has closed significantly in the last few years. I left for college in 1993 and at that time, there is no doubt that recruiting wise, State could pretty much cherry pick who they wanted in the state. As my expanding waistline will attest, times change.
Also, once we're done with our stadium next spring, you won't even have the best facilities in the state. Look around. LSU, South Carolina, Arkansas, and Ole Miss will have better stadiums than ya'll next spring.
As for overall resources, I'm not really sure what you're referring to. Scholly numbers are the same for y'all as everyone else. It's not like you have a bigger budget either to offer assistants or some super secret advantage that others in the conference don't have.
I gotta go with the majority here. Casey, if we could get him, would be an absolute dream pick. Hell, I've thrown his name out myself a few times. He'd be a HUGE steal.
I would say 6 are SEC jobs and thats including Ole Miss.
And what makes FSU's stadium so great? I don't see it.
http://seminoles.cstv.com/trads/fsu-trads-fac-howser.html?pic=1
And what makes FSU's stadium so great? I don't see it.
http://seminoles.cstv.com/trads/fsu-trads-fac-howser.html?pic=1
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because of the money that is applied to hiring an SEC baseball coach. It makes it a top 10 job opening. Now, is Ole Miss a top 10 program is another issue.
I've seen renderings and came away highly unimpressed. LSU has an enormous athletic budget and 5 national titles, but their new stadium still looks like a glorified erector set. I expected much more from LSU. Now, I'll agree that Dudy Noble needs a facelift and I would argue that we need to extend the grandstands to the foul poles, however I still think it will be, at worst, even with LSU's new stadium.
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