How much pressure, if any, is on Franklin to win this Saturday?

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The ESPN ticker just showed that PSU is the favored team most likely to lose.

Should James be puckered?
 

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The ESPN ticker just showed that PSU is the favored team most likely to lose.

Should James be puckered?
The odds will tell you that we’re the second most likely team to win (though it’s close). I’d put more stock in that the the “ESPN Ticker”.

Though it’s probably a slightly better than 50% chance that we lose one of the next two.
 

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I hope Coach Franklin has placed some emphasis on playing penalty free, disciplined football. The Lions are one of the most penalized teams while SMU is one of the fewest penalized teams.
***** This. Poor tackling and dumb penalties have been the bane and mantra of this team in big games all season. If PSU puts together 60 minutes of good, solid clean football, there should be no reason that we don't win the next two games without cleaning out Midnighter's bar stock of fine booze due to bad nerves....
 

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The ESPN ticker just showed that PSU is the favored team most likely to lose.

Should James be puckered?
Yes he will be fired if he loses. I would be terrified if it were me. Getting canned would see him get a parting check of 60 million. I don't know how one could scape through life on that.
In addition, PSU will then have to sort through dozens of qualified applicants (all of whom will finally give us what we deserve) and bring this program to the promised land. Since 10 million per is the going rate, that will be a minimum of 50 million plus for the savior.
Winning 10 or 11 "meaningless" games per year just doesn't cut it with the "we deserve better" BWICAC.
 

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The ESPN ticker just showed that PSU is the favored team most likely to lose.

Should James be puckered?
For years we have anguished over losses that denied us a chance at the playoffs. Well here we are, with a game at home against the last team admitted to the tourney. On the horizon is Boise State, as if we hand picked our next possible opponent. There is significant pressure being felt in Lasch. Lose Saturday and the season is a failure of high magnitude. We would have the celebrated recruiting class producing nothing of note this year, with our best win against ____________. It's a big game.
 

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I hope Coach Franklin has placed some emphasis on playing penalty free, disciplined football. The Lions are one of the most penalized teams while SMU is one of the fewest penalized teams.

The 1,000-yard penalty team​

The Mustangs draw flags. A lot of them, for a lot of yards. SMU is the most penalized Power 4 team (107) in the country and the only FBS team to top 1,000 yards in penalties (1,027). That should make Penn State defensive end Abdul Carter happy.

 
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I hope Coach Franklin has placed some emphasis on playing penalty free, disciplined football. The Lions are one of the most penalized teams while SMU is one of the fewest penalized teams.

Wut the wut?

PSU is 40th out of 134 FBS teams in Penalty Yards/Game. (so, 94 teams have more penalty yards/game than PSU).
SMU is 131st out of 134 FBS in Penalty Yards/Game.

PSU averages 45.9 yards/game.
SMU averages 79.0 yards/game.

The least penalized team in FBS is Iowa St at 27.8 yards/game.

And, as to penalties/game, PSU is 21st (least). SMU is 127th.
 
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***** This. Poor tackling and dumb penalties have been the bane and mantra of this team in big games all season. If PSU puts together 60 minutes of good, solid clean football, there should be no reason that we don't win the next two games without cleaning out Midnighter's bar stock of fine booze due to bad nerves....
Yeah, this ... except he was exactly wrong, as SMU is literally one of the most penalized teams in FBS and PSU is top 1/3rd in receiving the fewest penalty yards per game.
 
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Wut the wut?

PSU is 40th out of 134 FBS teams in Penalty Yards/Game. (so, 94 teams have more penalty yards/game than PSU).
SMU is 131st out of 134 FBS in Penalty Yards/Game.

PSU averages 45.9 yards/game.
SMU averages 79.0 yards/game.

The least penalized team in FBS is Iowa St at 27.8 yards/game.

And, as to penalties/game, PSU is 21st (least). SMU is 127th.
Beat me to it (I edited). And “wut the wut” packs an impact I can’t equal.
 
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Every home team is a large favorite this year (thank you "12 Team Tourney" creators).

Every coach of those teams is - or can expect to be - under significant pressure.

CJF for obvious reasons.

Ryan Day at OSU? You betcha' .... even more than CJF. Much higher expectations there - and the losses to Michigan have opened some painful wounds.

Freeman at ND? Feasted on a buffet of cupcakes since the inexplicable loss to N Illinois. Three years at ND - Two wins over ranked teams (Clemson and South Carolina back in 2022). Playing an in-state little brother (despite their run this year). Yep, he better win.

Sarkisian at UT? For sure. Very high expectations there - and now that the shine has fully come off of that early win over Michigan, the two losses to Georgia paint Texas as very much the "handle the teams they are expected to beat, spit the bit against the big boys" type of squad this year. That said, Texas' run to the final four last year buys Sarkisian a lot more wiggle room.... not that he won't face a lot of grief if they don't win on Saturday - including a lot of "you played the wrong QB" talk from the folks down in Texas.

None of those coaches will escape large doses of discontent if they lose this weekend. But, all in all, Day and Freeman face much more pressure than CJF and Sarkisian.
 

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Yeah, this ... except he was exactly wrong, as SMU is literally one of the most penalized teams in FBS and PSU is top 1/3rd in receiving the fewest penalty yards per game.
Yes, he was wrong, but it never hurts a team to play a full game of solid, fundamental football without having penalties that can be avoided like personal fouls, taunting etc which does hurt during a game.
 
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Yes, he was wrong, but it never hurts a team to play a full game of solid, fundamental football without having penalties that can be avoided like personal fouls, taunting etc which does hurt during a game.

The penalties so many are complaining about seem more numerous because there were some stupid/questionable decisions (by players) and calls (by refs) that did happen to impact the squad at inopportune times (e.g. stopping a team on 3rd, only to give them that 1st down anyway) and because fans are almost always hyper-focused on the bad that happens to, and because of, their team. That's why so many fans on message boards are screaming that the refs are against them. There could be 5 missed calls that could have benefitted the other team, but there's one that isn't called for us and suddenly it's "we never get the calls! They're doing this on every play!" ... Similarly, the other squad commits penalties, and we finally commit one and it's "we're so undisciplined!"

But, yeah, every team could benefit from fewer mental and physical mistakes.
 

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I hope Coach Franklin has placed some emphasis on playing penalty free, disciplined football. The Lions are one of the most penalized teams while SMU is one of the fewest penalized teams.
Franklin has frequently talked about the need to clean up penalties so I'm sure it's been an emphasis. The question is why hasn't worked.
 

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For years we have anguished over losses that denied us a chance at the playoffs. Well here we are, with a game at home against the last team admitted to the tourney. On the horizon is Boise State, as if we hand picked our next possible opponent. There is significant pressure being felt in Lasch. Lose Saturday and the season is a failure of high magnitude. We would have the celebrated recruiting class producing nothing of note this year, with our best win against ____________. It's a big game.
Have you ever watched the NCAA Basketball tournament? The blue bloods never get upset by low seeds. As for pressure ...LOL. I guarantee fanboys here are walking around with tighter cheerio holes than anyone in Lasch.
 
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Absolutely! Can you imagine the outrage if Big Game James loses this game?

I just hope he doesn't get so puckered that he runs up the middle 3 times on 3rd and goal from the 3 yd line.
or 4 times at the one with a MNC on the line. Figures you quoted someone on the penalties who was clearly wrong, but accuracy hasn't always been that important to folks around here.
 

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or 4 times at the one with a MNC on the line. Figures you quoted someone on the penalties who was clearly wrong, but accuracy hasn't always been that important to folks around here.
I don't think exactly where we rank wrt penalties is the issue. The issue is we have too many senseless penalties. Franklin has been talking about the need to clean that up all season but whatever he's don't hasn't been effective. Just look at the Oregon game.
 
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I don't think exactly where we rank wrt penalties is the issue. The issue is we have too many senseless penalties. Franklin has been talking about the need to clean that up all season but whatever he's don't hasn't been effective. Just look at the Oregon game.
Yeah as no coach ever talks about having to clean up penalties, just so rare. Just look at the overall resume since he arrived and where the rank and usually it's better than most, but again things like this people don't want to hear if it does fit their opinion.

The simple fact is a poster was CLEARLY way off with his assumption on penalties, not just a little bit, but way off in where these 2 teams are in terms of penalties and instead of saying that was false you moved the line and the goalposts. It's just being intellectually lazy IMO. Moving the goalposts is fun and all, but PSU ranks 21st overall with 4.9 penalties a game....it could be better, but they are in the top 20% there. There is always room for improvement, but in this instance someone was clearly wrong and you doubled down with them. A normal person can see when they made a mistake and remedy it or own it....narcissistic leaning people just deny it.
 
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I look at it a bit differently than the narrative of "big games." James Franklin recruits at a fairly high level. His teams at Penn State typically beat the opponents they have talent acquisition advantages over and tend to struggle against teams who have equal or greater talent than them. Frankly, that way of looking at it could probably be said for most teams in most years. Even though this is a pretty standard, and I think reasonable, way to understand the data, do I want to still see some improvement? Of course. I think PSU needs to improve a bit more against opponents who roughly equal their talent level (i.e., Michigan), and be able to come up with an upset against a more talented opponent a little more often than they have. The Oregon game showed me a bit of progress toward that second goal. Beyond recruiting—when it comes to playing up to your opponent—player development is key here within the system at the core of your identity on offense or defense. Coach K has been a real blessing this year in that regard for the offense and I'm glad he will be back next year.

Can SMU beat PSU this weekend? I think so. Should PSU win given what I described above? I also think so.
 

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Absolutely! Can you imagine the outrage if Big Game James loses this game?

I just hope he doesn't get so puckered that he runs up the middle 3 times on 3rd and goal from the 3 yd line.
"Big game James" is coaching a division one program in the college football playoffs and being paid 9 or 10 million per year. While "Big game" fanboys are mocking him. Priceless. My guess is that there are about one hundred and fifty HFC D1 positions. I wonder how many big game fanboy positions are available?
If PSU loses, "Big Game James" and his coaching staff will be back at work Sunday trying to keep the current roster together and working the portal to improve for next season. While the "big game" fanboys will be weeping and bellowing for 25 years about how they missed out on the "big one."
LOL
 

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Franklin has frequently talked about the need to clean up penalties so I'm sure it's been an emphasis. The question is why hasn't worked.
Because people don't always do as they are told. Do you have children? If so, I'm gonna stretch and assume they love and respect you. So I'm sure that they never, ever did anything you told them not to do.
 
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Yeah as no coach ever talks about having to clean up penalties, just so rare. Just look at the overall resume since he arrived and where the rank and usually it's better than most, but again things like this people don't want to hear if it does fit their opinion.

The simple fact is a poster was CLEARLY way off with his assumption on penalties, not just a little bit, but way off in where these 2 teams are in terms of penalties and instead of saying that was false you moved the line and the goalposts. It's just being intellectually lazy IMO. Moving the goalposts is fun and all, but PSU ranks 21st overall with 4.9 penalties a game....it could be better, but they are in the top 20% there. There is always room for improvement, but in this instance someone was clearly wrong and you doubled down with them. A normal person can see when they made a mistake and remedy it or own it....narcissistic leaning people just deny it.
PSU shouldn't get penalties....we suck at tackling too......no one else misses tackles.
 

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Because people don't always do as they are told. Do you have children? If so, I'm gonna stretch and assume they love and respect you. So I'm sure that they never, ever did anything you told them not to do.
You make me feel bad. I didn't think it was a stretch to believe that my children love and respect me. :(
 

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I know marsh doesn’t care if we lose but I sure do. Check these maths

If you thought Franklin’s record against Top 25 teams was rough, wait until you find out he’s 3-17 against Top 10 opponents.
 

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If he's gonna keep losing "big games," then PSU needs to stop playing them.
This is the second time you posted on this. I'm a Franklin guy. I don't think he's overpaid. I never said he should be fired.

The fact is this isnt 1970's Mansfield football. It's multi-billion dollar sports entertainment these days. He's worked his entire life to get to THIS position---->>> In the playoffs, with a clear winnable path to get to the semis. If his aśś isn't puckered going into this game, I wouldnt want him to be our coach.

Let's talk about the chip on your coaching shoulder.
 
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PSU shouldn't get penalties....we suck at tackling too......no one else misses tackles.
Being critical is a part of deal, but showing balance is a part of the equation too. There is no perfect coach, team, or program. PSU has a group of fans that want to pretend this is the end all program but it's about 4 decades removed. Instead of dealing with that reality some will just make crap up and run with it.

Like it or not the HC these people cry about has the program in a title or bust situation currently.....so clearly he's doing a lot more right than wrong. Will he make mistakes....yep. Will PSU continue to fall behind in NIL because some fans are still upset about a statue or the BoT and hold it against him and the program....yep. Then those same babies will he the loudest after a loss....must be nice.
 
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