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“He played hard”
The most irrelevant defense of a player. Like, ok? Are we really congratulating a player for not being lazy?
The most irrelevant defense of a player. Like, ok? Are we really congratulating a player for not being lazy?
When Indndawg and RockyDog are liking your post, you should probably change your name, cause you ain't the OG of anything worth a ****.
He was adequate, I wouldn't say very good. When I think of very good, I think of Graham Harrell. And what Braden Locke maybe could have been.
I dnt understand our fans wanting a player to do well or better when they leave our program and go to another.
How much did we pay? Is this documented somewhere?...I would geek out on seeing what everyone is paid and in what ways.
Those numbers aren't public. But it's been discussed at length that he was an expensive pull.
We should have known what we were in for when he started pumping the sunshine about the then upcoming 2023 season and the new fun-to-watch offense.
Again you minimize accomplishments based on him being a product of Leach's offense. Leach coached Power5 programs at the D1 level. So QBs that had individual and team success playing for Leach are clearly D1 QBs.
You just cant bring yourself to say it. You thrash and fight it for some crazy reason, even though it is right there in front of you.
Also, you think he maxed out in high school, even though he has played QB for an SEC program for 4 seasons where he completed 70% of his passes, threw 94 touchdowns, had an overall passer rating of 138? He led the NCAA in completion % in 21, led the NCAA in total completions in 21 and 22, led the SEC in touchdown passes in 22, and is 4th all time in total yards passed in SEC history despite missing multiple games this season.
But he peaked in high school? 17 that absurd take.
More excusing and justifying.
First off, a fanbase is not monolith. There are many people with many views. Take this topic for example, you think Rogers wasnt a D1 level QB and nearly everyone else thinks you are a clown. See?- many views. Similarly, some fans thought the offense under Leach sucked. Other fans thought it was fine. Crazy right?...not everyone thinks the same thing, even though you form your argument like they do.
Then your post turns to excuses. First you cite COVID and claim Costello would have been better if not for that. Then you state a total hypothetical as reality and claim Locke would have given Rogers a run for his money if not for Costello not having better coaching due to COVID.
What this actually shows is that as a true freshman, Rogers took over mid-season from a grad transfer from Stanford and held the position the next season when competing with a guy that only saw the field at Wisconsin this season because the starting QB was injured and went right back to the bench once the other QB was healed.
Thats who you are propping up in this argument- a grad transfer that really wasnt good and Rogers was better than as a true freshman(based on QB rating that season), and a freshman that didnt see the field at MSU and was ineffective when he saw the field at Wisconsin.
Minimizing and excusing. Wash rinse repeat. Only this time you also claimed Rogers peaked in high school. Good lord.
I have heard some crazy numbers like $15,000 to $20,000 per month for each basketball transfer in and for the guys that stayed another year.
I've seen a few 990s filed for non-taxable organizations (assuming most NILs are not-taxable), but they usually only list salaries and benefits of the senior officers. I wonder if we'll ever see the amounts players are getting?
The evidence is there. He was college ready as a freshman, and didn't really get any better the whole time he was on campus. Telltale sign of a guy who has maxed out ability due to being coached well in high school. He never took another step physically, either.
And then, once out of the Leach offense, he was below average.
It's not rocket science.
Just saying, Will can't do this. I saw this several times. Will gets sacked here 9/10 times. It's not wrong to question their decision by picking him up. Nothing wrong with believing they will experience a drop of just on talent and football abilities like this.
Well duh. Michael Penix is the Heisman runner up and will probably be a top 10 draft pick. There would be a drop off with any quarterback who replaces him. Is Will going to replace Michael Penix exactly? No. Can he be successful there with a good offensive line and wide receivers? I think he can.
They don’t realize that they are the main reason he gets **** on so much. If there wasn’t a constant barrage of his posse calling everyone out for anything that is ever said about him we wouldn’t think much of it.
They need someone who has qb leadership experience to be a bridge during a rebuild. They are losing everyone.
It looks good on paper to say a 4 year SEC starter is coming in.
I gave a **** load of money to get my degree and I give a **** load of money each year for my season tickets. He got a free education forgetting to play a sport he liked. Don't act like he really gave anything.
Are you saying the coaches at Washington are stupid and don't know what they are looking for? I hope we land a stupid coach that gets us to the playoffs.
Yet... the sec records. LOL. Which SEC Rushing records did DJ and Marks and RaRa set again?
Has not one damn thing to do with being able to separate the person from the player. As a poster pointed out, no matter what system you are in, when you produce those numbers it's literally STUPID to say he isn't D1 talent unless the SEC is no longer D1. Just straight up STUPID. It's not even ignorance. Ignorance can be fixed with facts. Stupid just isn't fixable.
Yeah.......... a coach in the National friggin Championship game who is 104-11 just relied on stats. LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Leach never made a single throw on the field in a game at MSU. Period. That was all Rogers reading a defense and making the throws. Over 75% were to the WRs too.
holy sheet, i just found myself agreeing with everything you said. i feel unwell now.
His posse are a bunch of pussies. And they suck as much as he does.
First I’ve heard about his family and friends defending him but good for them.
There are a lot of people here that still live by that Jackie Sherrill BS about hoisting your MSU mug after a win and they get bent out of shape if they can’t do it after every game.
Call me crazy but I like it when people succeed.
How does Will Rogers’ success make MSU look bad to anybody who doesn’t suffer from the Hail State little man complex?
The RuNDaBaWl folks really disliked two people, Mike Leach and Will Rogers. Those two people represented that fancy arse throwing the ball stuff that they hate. Leach is dead so they can’t rant about him anymore, so Rogers takes all the schitt. The same people that dislike Rogers want to build a statue for Garrett Schrader because he did a helicopter spin and almost got a first down one time in a game we lost, even though his stats and winning percentage, even when you count his Syracuse years, are worse than Will’s
If that's why you're running the guy down - because of something somebody else said that happens to have a different opinion than you - then you are truly a small person. Let it go.
I'm with you - hope he does great for UW. He did great for us.
Let it go.
Yep, Kalen Deboer has no idea what a quarterback is supposed to look like or be able to do on the football field. Goat Holder, on the other hand, is a frickin' genius on these things.
Criticism of Will the person and Will the player - there's a fine line and we have crossed it.
WIsh him well and be thankful for what he did for us.
They evidently zeroed in on him early - rumors of him to UW were circulating almost as soon as he hit the portal. They like what they see and think he's a fit.
Go get 'em, WIll!
Funny thing is, I'm not one of the RuN dA BaWl mouth breathers. I liked the Air Raid, and I never got too down on Rogers.
But I also have the ability to call a spade a spade. Rogers was a serviceable QB at best, even in the Air Raid. Bottom line.
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