our players kept doing to taunt Oklahoma? Holding the nose and waving goodbye? Yall stink, goodbye? Or some deeper meaning? Lol! I've missed that in the past.
Great game yesterday!
Great game yesterday!
I assume this is some popular thing I'm just in the dark about, but what is the hand motion thing
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Cam Ward (Miami)really started making this really popular, and now college and pro players have started using it as well.
I read somewhere its called the Zombie (or something close).
You stink, so get away from me
I read somewhere its called the Zombie (or something close).
You stink, so get away from me
It sucks; they need to cut that crap out. There's an anti-discipline trend that is infecting football now. I guess the most blatant recent example would be the Alabama player defying the coach who was trying to take him out of the game and the two USF players who got in a fight with each other on the sideline last night. But all these gesticulations to opposing fans are trashy - bush-league - low rent.
You have a point. Would be nice if you had the same energy for fans giving players the finger, telling them to go back to the ghetto just because they are losing a game, and worse gestures/name calling that has been going on for decades..
I would like to see us conduct ourselves as though we are familiar with success.
Beyond that, a team with a 4-3 record shouldn’t be talking trash.
So you really applying footbal to the regular world? That's a mistake. Sort of the same as the Dolphins hiring Cam Cameron as their coach instead of Mike Tomlin because he was so-called too Hip-Hop. Tomlin is a champion and still coaching with the Steelers. The Dolphins fired Cam Cameron after one year and have been a revolving door in their head coaching position ever since.
There is nothing wrong with the you stink gesture and that's why the refs don't penalize it. Now, the Dylan Stewart celebration is not acceptable in any form or fashion. However, to expect these players to take the abuse they get especially from opposing teams' fans and have no response back is absurd.
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Could you see Jim Brown doing this crap? Or even Barry Sanders? Or even Tom Brady? Or condoning it?
I was taught to help the opposing player get back up.
....and Jim Brown retired from the NFL in 1965. King you are usually a smart guy, but you have a tendency to want to impose the standards of 60 years ago on everyone. I guess we all shouldn't be using the internet. We got along just fine without in the 1960's.
....and you are absolutely wrong about Tom Brady. He did a lot of talking. Didn't come up with elaborate celebrations, but he let the other team know that they sucked all the time.
Let's try a little nuanced thinking. The players are on the stage; the fans are not. The fans are vocal bystanders and are of little relevance otherwise beyond their ticket purchases. If anything, greater cultural edification would derive from players saluting their own fans when something praiseworthy happens instead of assailing fans of the opposition. Coaches, administrators, teachers, adults in general, should be promoting a better brand of fun.
I hope you're not trying to say that men with the gravitas of Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, or Jerry Rice would be doing this crap today.
He did not
Nuanced thinking. He did not make a habit of performing antagonizing gesticulations to the opponent's fans during the contest. Did he?
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It looks stupid and conveys inexperience with success.
I am not a supporter of excessive celebration .... especially in football.
If you can not control your emotions and/or your behavior,100% of the time ... you have NO BUSINESS, whatsoever, on the athletic field......... PERIOD!!!!
"Act like You've been there before!"
Walter Peyton
Most of the guys being quoted on here are dead. Nothing stays the same. Do what you need to do to play well without getting penalties. None of these gestures were penalized, so what are we talking about.
Discipline, class, and standards. And representing a large, broad, and diverse community and not primarily oneself.
Walter Peyton IS DEAD ... 99.99% of these thugs NOW playing football will NEVER BE REMEMBERED.
Drugs like Steroid Bonds & Sammy 'Corked Bat' Soso ,,,,,, care to discuss further???
You got issues. What do baseball players that played in the 90's have to do with the subject. Nothing worse than being an angry old person. Should be mellowing during this time as you are closer to meeting your maker with each passing day, but you be you. Since you had to expose yourself with the thug talk, a 29 year old white assistant coach exposed Cam Ward to this celebration.
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Um... they all played offense. Did or have any of our offensive players "celebrated" like that?
I would take that celebration from our offensive players if that would get them to play better.
These are dying notions in a lot more than just our sports teams.
Defensive players weren't doing it that way in those days. They mainly celebrated with each other, and their fans, so even animated celebrations were not as classless. I'll view our highlights and give you my observations.
Sanders did not on his TD run. Simply handed the ball to the official and bumped fists with a teammate. Joshua Simon's celebration on his touchdown catch was more demonstrative but directed at our fans.
-- "So you(sic) really applying footbal(sic) to the regular world?" Yes I am -- it's a correlation often drawn; football = life.
-- "instead of Mike Tomlin because he was so-called too Hip-Hop." Being too Hip-Hop is a real thing; a negative thing at that.
-- "There is nothing wrong with the you stink gesture..." Yes there is - it's too hip-hop (see above).
-- "...to expect these players to take the abuse they get especially from opposing teams' fans and have no response back is absurd." It is most certainly not absurd. It's simply a matter of the players having the class to comport themselves as disciplined athletes or not.
Marcus Lattimore simply handed the ball to the nearest official every time he scored.
Players are getting paid now, they should expect to get abuse from their own fans when they don't play up to the expectations their employers have of them. Booing players is 100% OK now that they are getting paid. Opposing fans can heap all the abuse they want on the employees of the other team, especially when the opposing players are acting like ghetto thugs on the field and taunting the fans when they score or make a big play on defense.
It's up to the rest of us to be vigilant in advocating them.
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