I assume this is some popular thing I'm just in the dark about, but what is the hand motion thing

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our players kept doing to taunt Oklahoma? Holding the nose and waving goodbye? Yall stink, goodbye? Or some deeper meaning? Lol! I've missed that in the past.

Great game yesterday!
 

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Cam Ward (Miami)really started making this really popular, and now college and pro players have started using it as well.
I read somewhere its called the Zombie (or something close).
You stink, so get away from me
 

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It sucks; they need to cut that crap out. There's an anti-discipline trend that is infecting football now. I guess the most blatant recent example would be the Alabama player defying the coach who was trying to take him out of the game and the two USF players who got in a fight with each other on the sideline last night. But all these gesticulations to opposing fans are trashy - bush-league - low rent.
 

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It sucks; they need to cut that crap out. There's an anti-discipline trend that is infecting football now. I guess the most blatant recent example would be the Alabama player defying the coach who was trying to take him out of the game and the two USF players who got in a fight with each other on the sideline last night. But all these gesticulations to opposing fans are trashy - bush-league - low rent.
You have a point. Would be nice if you had the same energy for fans giving players the finger, telling them to go back to the ghetto just because they are losing a game, and worse gestures/name calling that has been going on for decades..
 
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It sucks; they need to cut that crap out. There's an anti-discipline trend that is infecting football now. I guess the most blatant recent example would be the Alabama player defying the coach who was trying to take him out of the game and the two USF players who got in a fight with each other on the sideline last night. But all these gesticulations to opposing fans are trashy - bush-league - low rent.
I would like to see us conduct ourselves as though we are familiar with success.

Beyond that, a team with a 4-3 record shouldn’t be talking trash.
 

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@adcoop brought "ghetto" into this thread so I will crystalize my thoughts: ghetto antics are taking over our collegiate sports (and youthful society, for that matter). It's not a good look. And if these athletes don't make it to "the league" it will not serve them well in other legal endeavors.
 

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@adcoop brought "ghetto" into this thread so I will crystalize my thoughts: ghetto antics are taking over our collegiate sports (and youthful society, for that matter). It's not a good look. And if these athletes don't make it to "the league" it will not serve them well in other legal endeavors.
So you really applying footbal to the regular world? That's a mistake. Sort of the same as the Dolphins hiring Cam Cameron as their coach instead of Mike Tomlin because he was so-called too Hip-Hop. Tomlin is a champion and still coaching with the Steelers. The Dolphins fired Cam Cameron after one year and have been a revolving door in their head coaching position ever since.

There is nothing wrong with the you stink gesture and that's why the refs don't penalize it. Now, the Dylan Stewart celebration is not acceptable in any form or fashion. However, to expect these players to take the abuse they get especially from opposing teams' fans and have no response back is absurd.
 
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Could you see Jim Brown doing this crap? Or even Barry Sanders? Or even Tom Brady? Or condoning it?
....and Jim Brown retired from the NFL in 1965. King you are usually a smart guy, but you have a tendency to want to impose the standards of 60 years ago on everyone. I guess we all shouldn't be using the internet. We got along just fine without in the 1960's.
 

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Could you see Jim Brown doing this crap? Or even Barry Sanders? Or even Tom Brady? Or condoning it?
....and you are absolutely wrong about Tom Brady. He did a lot of talking. Didn't come up with elaborate celebrations, but he let the other team know that they sucked all the time.
 

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You have a point. Would be nice if you had the same energy for fans giving players the finger, telling them to go back to the ghetto just because they are losing a game, and worse gestures/name calling that has been going on for decades..
Let's try a little nuanced thinking. The players are on the stage; the fans are not. The fans are vocal bystanders and are of little relevance otherwise beyond their ticket purchases. If anything, greater cultural edification would derive from players saluting their own fans when something praiseworthy happens instead of assailing fans of the opposition. Coaches, administrators, teachers, adults in general, should be promoting a better brand of fun.
 
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....and Jim Brown retired from the NFL in 1965. King you are usually a smart guy, but you have a tendency to want to impose the standards of 60 years ago on everyone. I guess we all shouldn't be using the internet. We got along just fine without in the 1960's.
I hope you're not trying to say that men with the gravitas of Jim Brown, Barry Sanders, or Jerry Rice would be doing this crap today.
 

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....and you are absolutely wrong about Tom Brady. He did a lot of talking. Didn't come up with elaborate celebrations, but he let the other team know that they sucked all the time.
He did not
....and you are absolutely wrong about Tom Brady. He did a lot of talking. Didn't come up with elaborate celebrations, but he let the other team know that they sucked all the time.
Nuanced thinking. He did not make a habit of performing antagonizing gesticulations to the opponent's fans during the contest. Did he?
 
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....and Jim Brown retired from the NFL in 1965. King you are usually a smart guy, but you have a tendency to want to impose the standards of 60 years ago on everyone. I guess we all shouldn't be using the internet. We got along just fine without in the 1960's.
Change happens. Some is salutary; some is not.
 

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Most of the guys being quoted on here are dead. Nothing stays the same. Do what you need to do to play well without getting penalties. None of these gestures were penalized, so what are we talking about.
Discipline, class, and standards. And representing a large, broad, and diverse community and not primarily oneself.
 
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Most of the guys being quoted on here are dead. Nothing stays the same. Do what you need to do to play well without getting penalties. None of these gestures were penalized, so what are we talking about.
Walter Peyton IS DEAD ... 99.99% of these thugs NOW playing football will NEVER BE REMEMBERED.

Drugs like Steroid Bonds & Sammy 'Corked Bat' Soso ,,,,,, care to discuss further???
 

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Walter Peyton IS DEAD ... 99.99% of these thugs NOW playing football will NEVER BE REMEMBERED.

Drugs like Steroid Bonds & Sammy 'Corked Bat' Soso ,,,,,, care to discuss further???
You got issues. What do baseball players that played in the 90's have to do with the subject. Nothing worse than being an angry old person. Should be mellowing during this time as you are closer to meeting your maker with each passing day, but you be you. Since you had to expose yourself with the thug talk, a 29 year old white assistant coach exposed Cam Ward to this celebration.
 
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Um... they all played offense. Did or have any of our offensive players "celebrated" like that?
Defensive players weren't doing it that way in those days. They mainly celebrated with each other, and their fans, so even animated celebrations were not as classless. I'll view our highlights and give you my observations.
 

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Um... they all played offense. Did or have any of our offensive players "celebrated" like that?
Sanders did not on his TD run. Simply handed the ball to the official and bumped fists with a teammate. Joshua Simon's celebration on his touchdown catch was more demonstrative but directed at our fans.
 

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Bama fans aren't exactly enamored of these antics. Losing makes it more unpalatable. Winning wouldn't change its nature. Bama once exuded class.
 

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