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psuro

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Boise State and Miss State have fired their HC.

Wonder if Harsin goes back to Boise.

Also wonder if MIss State may be angling to get Jimbo.
 

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Boise State and Miss State have fired their HC.

Wonder if Harsin goes back to Boise.

Also wonder if MIss State may be angling to get Jimbo.
Does anyone know if Jimbo loses any of his $70 million plus payout if he takes another coaching job?

I know the guy gets criticism, but he has talent and has proven to be a winner. Not many active coaches are wearing CFP championship rings.
 

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Does anyone know if Jimbo loses any of his $70 million plus payout if he takes another coaching job?

I know the guy gets criticism, but he has talent and has proven to be a winner. Not many active coaches are wearing CFP championship rings.
Proven to be a winner? Last few years at A&M with top recruiting classes contradicts that. The guy has done less with more than anyone else in the country.
 

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Does anyone know if Jimbo loses any of his $70 million plus payout if he takes another coaching job?

I know the guy gets criticism, but he has talent and has proven to be a winner. Not many active coaches are wearing CFP championship rings.
The terms were $19MM within 60 days of termination, then annual payments of $7.25 MM until 2031 (or thereabouts). I am sure there are clauses for a reduction in payout if he has another job. I would imagine there are also terms that stipulate he has to actively seek employment in coaching/media during the contract terms.

I have also heard that they are looking to negotiate a settlement with him - assumedly, 50% of all the money within a certain timeframe, just to get him off the books.
 
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Proven to be a winner? Last few years at A&M with top recruiting classes contradicts that. The guy has done less with more than anyone else in the country.
You discount a 73% winning record, an 8-2 bowl record, a national championship, and his recruiting. OK, we all have opinions.

BTW, he has as many losing seasons in the last three years as James Franklin.
 

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You discount a 73% winning record, an 8-2 bowl record, a national championship, and his recruiting. OK, we all have opinions.

BTW, he has as many losing seasons in the last three years as James Franklin.
You’re only as good as your last 5 minutes. Last 3 seasons at A&M, 8-4, 5-7, 6-4, after having a monster #1 overall rated recruiting class. Mixed into one of those years was a loss to Appalachian St and consistent loses to Bama, Ole Miss, Miss St, etc.
 

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You’re only as good as your last 5 minutes. Last 3 seasons at A&M, 8-4, 5-7, 6-4, after having a monster #1 overall rated recruiting class. Mixed into one of those years was a loss to Appalachian St and consistent loses to Bama, Ole Miss, Miss St, etc.
Interesting. OK, I'll bite.

I looked at Jimbo's W/L record since 2021.

In that time he lost to a #21 Arkansas team, a #11 and #13 Ole Miss, a #5 and #8 Alabama, a #21 Tennessee and a #20 Miss State. 7 of his losses.

In that same time he beat #18 UNC, #2 Alabama and #16 LSU. 3 wins.

Prior to this year he actually had a winning record against ranked teams.

How would he look on the PSU sidelines?
 

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I don't think CJF is going anywhere. And, the Miss State coach was on JoeMo's staff and replaced him as HC when he was fired.

My bet is that we hire an OC that knows how to coach a pocket passer. I don't think that is MY's strong point and that is what we have.
 

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Interesting. OK, I'll bite.

I looked at Jimbo's W/L record since 2021.

In that time he lost to a #21 Arkansas team, a #11 and #13 Ole Miss, a #5 and #8 Alabama, a #21 Tennessee and a #20 Miss State. 7 of his losses.

In that same time he beat #18 UNC, #2 Alabama and #16 LSU. 3 wins.

Prior to this year he actually had a winning record against ranked teams.

How would he look on the PSU sidelines?
So, 19-15 in his last 3 seasons and a 3-7 record vs TOP 25 teams after having the number 9,1, and 10 overall recruiting classes plus a home loss to Appalachian St. Further, his overall record at A&M is 45-25 and he is just 27-21 in conference games. If those were Franklin’s stats your head would explode. How would Jimbo look on the PSU sideline….like the used car salesman he is.
 

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So, 19-15 in his last 3 seasons and a 3-7 record vs TOP 25 teams after having the number 9,1, and 10 overall recruiting classes plus a home loss to Appalachian St. If those were Franklin’s stats your head would explode. How would Jimbo look on the PSU sideline….like the used car salesman he is.
That is comparable to what Bottom Feeder gives us, with a weaker schedule. And Bottom Feeder has no wins since 2016 against top 10 opponents. So I will take Jimbo.
 

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That is comparable to what Bottom Feeder gives us, with a weaker schedule. And Bottom Feeder has no wins since 2016 against top 10 opponents. So I will take Jimbo.
So, Jimbo gets credit from you for losing to Arkansas, but Franklin gets grief for losing to the same team in the same 2021 season? Why don’t you tell us why you really don’t like Franklin?
 
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The terms were $19MM within 60 days of termination, then annual payments of $7.25 MM until 2031 (or thereabouts). I am sure there are clauses for a reduction in payout if he has another job. I would imagine there are also terms that stipulate he has to actively seek employment in coaching/media during the contract terms.

I have also heard that they are looking to negotiate a settlement with him - assumedly, 50% of all the money within a certain timeframe, just to get him off the books.

It's never a good thing to make assumptions regarding contracts.

FWIW, the contract between Fisher and TAMU includes an entire section (5.3) that deals with "Damages Upon Termination by University Without Cause." The last sentence of that section specifically states:

"Furthermore, University will not be entitled to any offset whatsoever in the event that Coach secures any subsequent employment."

 

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So, Jimbo gets credit from you for losing to Arkansas, but Franklin gets grief for losing to the same team in the same 2021 season? Why don’t you tell us why you really don’t like Franklin?
I mentioned losing to Arkansas as being a plus on his record?

They would be a better conference opponent than Indiana, Illinois, Michigan State and Nebraska.
 
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The terms were $19MM within 60 days of termination, then annual payments of $7.25 MM until 2031 (or thereabouts). I am sure there are clauses for a reduction in payout if he has another job. I would imagine there are also terms that stipulate he has to actively seek employment in coaching/media during the contract terms.

I have also heard that they are looking to negotiate a settlement with him - assumedly, 50% of all the money within a certain timeframe, just to get him off the books.
And you would be wrong on both counts:

".........Coach will not have a duty to mitigate University’s damages if this Agreement is terminated by University without Cause. Furthermore, University will not be entitled to any offset whatsoever in the event that Coach secures any subsequent employment.”
 

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At Jimbo’s hiring ceremony , he was pressed with a NC plaque with the date to be filled in . 😂
 
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And you would be wrong on both counts:

".........Coach will not have a duty to mitigate University’s damages if this Agreement is terminated by University without Cause. Furthermore, University will not be entitled to any offset whatsoever in the event that Coach secures any subsequent employment.”
It is good to be Jimbo Fisher. Thanks for the details.
 
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