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Personally I love when someone tries to get on elevator or light rail before I can get out of it.
That really pisses me off, used to happen alot when I had 3 little kids and I would pretend I was back playing football as an offensive lineman clearing the way for my daughters to safely get off the elevator. :cool:
 
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Folks who walk "in" through doors clearly marked "out" are folks cut from the same cloth as folks who don't return their carriages to the store or the carriage return, and folks who drive slowly in the left lane, clogging up traffic.

If they're able-bodied men, I'll give them a loud "you're going the wrong way, sparky" or a "reading is fundamental" as I walk by them. Otherwise, I just shake my head as I walk by.
I also generally hold doors for people as well, because at this age I am not in a hurry so I like making life a little slower, and if they don't say thank you(which a majority of the younger people do not) I a nice big smile and say You're Welcome louder than normal. I can't wait until I am of age I can say whatever I want, I figure it is somewhere in the late 70s, if I make it that far...😂:cool:🤷‍♂️
 

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I also generally hold doors for people as well, because at this age I am not in a hurry so I like making life a little slower, and if they don't say thank you(which a majority of the younger people do not) I a nice big smile and say You're Welcome louder than normal. I can't wait until I am of age I can say whatever I want, I figure it is somewhere in the late 70s, if I make it that far...😂:cool:🤷‍♂️
No, the “say anything you like” age is 65 or so.
 

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who follows the same rule and common sense of entering a store as we drive vehicles on our roadways? not a difficult concept.
What if you're waiting in line to buy an ice cream cone and the person ahead of you keeps asking for samples? Or if you're waiting a long time in line for grocery check out then they open a new register and everybody behind you moves over the a shorter line? Or people who park on or over the line so you can hardly get back into your car?

The crap we have to put up with can be unbearable at times. :mad:
 

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What if you're waiting in line to buy an ice cream cone and the person ahead of you keeps asking for samples? Or if you're waiting a long time in line for grocery check out then they open a new register and everybody behind you moves over the a shorter line? Or people who park on or over the line so you can hardly get back into your car?

The crap we have to put up with can be unbearable at times. :mad:

Sadly this has all been going on for decades, but now people can gripe about it to a broader audience and show that emotion. What about the entitled DB's that take up 2 spots on purpose, forget saddling the line? That is nothing new. Not letting people merge or idiots driving up and getting over at the last minute....been going on for decades. I keep hearing it's the younger generation, but this crap was going on 40-50 years ago...probably longer but I cannot confirm that. A-holes have always been around, but now people have a place to vent. The biggest one is the folks that are in HOA's or on community sites that want to gripe all the time because basically they have zero going on in their lives so they just need something to do.
 
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Should we post all 6 covers?
 

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Sadly this has all been going on for decades, but now people can gripe about it to a broader audience and show that emotion. What about the entitled DB's that take up 2 spots on purpose, forget saddling the line? That is nothing new. Not letting people merge or idiots driving up and getting over at the last minute....been going on for decades. I keep hearing it's the younger generation, but this crap was going on 40-50 years ago...probably longer but I cannot confirm that. A-holes have always been around, but now people have a place to vent. The biggest one is the folks that are in HOA's or on community sites that want to gripe all the time because basically they have zero going on in their lives so they just need something to do.
I'm not sure about the HOA thing but I agree with the rest.

One complaint I see a lot is people driving in the left lane making it difficult for others to pass. A lot of them are probably complaining about me. On long trips I typically drive 78 in the left lane when the speed limit is 70 and I'm gradually passing slower traffic in the right lane. To me that's fast enough but you wouldn't believe the number of people who honk or flash their headlights at me. Eff them! I'll obviously get over if there's a lot of room to do so but no way am I going to slow from 77 mph just to get trapped behind somebody going 60 mph. The 85 mph freaks can wait until I can move over without getting blocked by slower traffic.

No get off my lawn.
 
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I'm not sure about the HOA thing but I agree with the rest.

One complaint I see a lot is people driving in the left lane making it difficult for others to pass. A lot of them are probably complaining about me. On long trips I typically drive 78 in the left lane when the speed limit is 70 and I'm gradually passing slower traffic in the right lane. To me that's fast enough but you wouldn't believe the number of people who honk or flash their headlights at me. Eff them! I'll obviously get over if there's a lot of room to do so but no way am I going to slow from 77 mph just to get trapped behind somebody going 60 mph. The 85 mph freaks can wait until I can move over without getting blocked by slower traffic.

No get off my lawn.
The left lane is for what.....passing. It's even posted all over now and cops are starting to actually pull over those that park in the left lane....thank goodness. It's so long overdue that they start enforcing the turtles out of the left lane causing backups. I don't really care so much about that on a 3 lane highway as you can get around it, but 2 lane highways are not made for people like you if you are doing this in traffic. If there is no traffic park in the left lane all you want to...have at it, but if 2-3 cars pass you in the right lane....yeah it's you, not them.

In terms of the HOA I live in a half senior half family complex and I laugh at some of these retirees. It's more so the same Karen's that gripe about every little thing online, but never can talk to the person they film or ask questions, it's right to the remarks....and usually it's about children. Mine haven't been called out but a few learned the hard way about posting pics of other kids online and didn't like it when the parents showed up at their door and called them out on it. There are plenty of 55 and older communities so it's odd they chose a place with families to settle into.

 
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I'm not sure about the HOA thing but I agree with the rest.

One complaint I see a lot is people driving in the left lane making it difficult for others to pass. A lot of them are probably complaining about me. On long trips I typically drive 78 in the left lane when the speed limit is 70 and I'm gradually passing slower traffic in the right lane. To me that's fast enough but you wouldn't believe the number of people who honk or flash their headlights at me. Eff them! I'll obviously get over if there's a lot of room to do so but no way am I going to slow from 77 mph just to get trapped behind somebody going 60 mph. The 85 mph freaks can wait until I can move over without getting blocked by slower traffic.

No get off my lawn.

It should be a law that you're legally allowed to bump people off the road who drive like you do.

There was already a similar discussion about this topic awhile back, but I'll reiterate ... get the eff over. No one cares if you think you're going fast enough.

If this is a 3-lane highway ... you need to get the EFF over ... now. There's 2 other lanes for slow drivers to travel in.

Around here, the stated speed limit is typically 65 mph on 3-lane highways. But everyone travels at least 80 mph ... in the slow lanes. 80-90 mph is the cruising speed. This is, of course, when there isn't so much traffic that everything is slowed down (by people like you, no doubt). Again, this isn't the "hey, you wild and crazy reckless kid" speed ... this is the normal flow of traffic speed where everyone is comfortable.

Almost every a-hole you see in the left-most lane travelling slowly enough that traffic is building up behind them is driving a junker, and looks homeless. Because they don't know any better. They're awful, dumb, inconsiderate, uneducated human beings. They need to go. They force everyone driving at the typical cruising speed to move to the right to pass them ... this creates potential hazards that need not arise ... hazards like trying to pass people in a lane where people are moving slower.

If it's a 2-lane highway, it gets more interesting because, inevitably, there are more a-holes like you destroying the flow of traffic, and fewer options to get around them, so those highways are usually jammed up with slow moving lanes, while everyone dreams about setting the people who are causing this traffic on fire, and then mockingly tell them to "move slow now, turdnugget." So, in these cases, you just have to relegate yourself to the absolute torture that is heavy traffic. But in the cases where there is sufficient room in which to maneuver on a 2-lane highway, your TRAVELLING lane is the right lane. When you approach someone from the rear, you get over, pass them, and then get back over into the TRAVELLING lane. In no circumstances do you stay in the left-lane unless you are actively passing someone. With one exception ... if you have room to get over to the left as you approach an entrance ramp, you do so, to allow those folks an easier time getting on and up to speed. Then you get back over.
 
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It should be a law that you're legally allowed to bump people off the road who drive like you do.

There was already a similar discussion about this topic awhile back, but I'll reiterate ... get the eff over. No one cares if you think you're going fast enough.

If this is a 3-lane highway ... you need to get the EFF over ... now. There's 2 other lanes for slow drivers to travel in.

Around here, the stated speed limit is typically 65 mph on 3-lane highways. But everyone travels at least 80 mph ... in the slow lanes. 80-90 mph is the cruising speed. This is, of course, when there isn't so much traffic that everything is slowed down (by people like you, no doubt). Again, this isn't the "hey, you wild and crazy reckless kid" speed ... this is the normal flow of traffic speed where everyone is comfortable.

Almost every a-hole you see in the left-most lane travelling slowly enough that traffic is building up behind them is driving a junker, and looks homeless. Because they don't know any better. They're awful, dumb, inconsiderate, uneducated human beings. They need to go. They force everyone driving at the typical cruising speed to move to the right to pass them ... this creates potential hazards that need not arise ... hazards like trying to pass people in a lane where people are moving slower.

If it's a 2-lane highway, it gets more interesting because, inevitably, there are more a-holes like you destroying the flow of traffic, and fewer options to get around them, so those highways are usually jammed up with slow moving lanes, while everyone dreams about setting the people who are causing this traffic on fire, and then mockingly tell them to "move slow now, turdnugget." So, in these cases, you just have to relegate yourself to the absolute torture that is heavy traffic. But in the cases where there is sufficient room in which to maneuver on a 2-lane highway, your TRAVELLING lane is the right lane. When you approach someone from the rear, you get over, pass them, and then get back over into the TRAVELLING lane. In no circumstances do you stay in the left-lane unless you are actively passing someone. With one exception ... if you have room to get over to the left as you approach an entrance ramp, you do so, to allow those folks an easier time getting on and up to speed. Then you get back over.
So you think going 8 mph over the speed limit while passing other cars is insufficient for using the left lane. Apparently you think if you're not going at least 80-90 mph you should stay behind slower cars in the middle or right lanes.

You must be one of those people who weaves in and out of all 3 lanes in an attempt to pick up a car length.
 
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It should be a law that you're legally allowed to bump people off the road who drive like you do.

There was already a similar discussion about this topic awhile back, but I'll reiterate ... get the eff over. No one cares if you think you're going fast enough.

If this is a 3-lane highway ... you need to get the EFF over ... now. There's 2 other lanes for slow drivers to travel in.

Around here, the stated speed limit is typically 65 mph on 3-lane highways. But everyone travels at least 80 mph ... in the slow lanes. 80-90 mph is the cruising speed. This is, of course, when there isn't so much traffic that everything is slowed down (by people like you, no doubt). Again, this isn't the "hey, you wild and crazy reckless kid" speed ... this is the normal flow of traffic speed where everyone is comfortable.

Almost every a-hole you see in the left-most lane travelling slowly enough that traffic is building up behind them is driving a junker, and looks homeless. Because they don't know any better. They're awful, dumb, inconsiderate, uneducated human beings. They need to go. They force everyone driving at the typical cruising speed to move to the right to pass them ... this creates potential hazards that need not arise ... hazards like trying to pass people in a lane where people are moving slower.

If it's a 2-lane highway, it gets more interesting because, inevitably, there are more a-holes like you destroying the flow of traffic, and fewer options to get around them, so those highways are usually jammed up with slow moving lanes, while everyone dreams about setting the people who are causing this traffic on fire, and then mockingly tell them to "move slow now, turdnugget." So, in these cases, you just have to relegate yourself to the absolute torture that is heavy traffic. But in the cases where there is sufficient room in which to maneuver on a 2-lane highway, your TRAVELLING lane is the right lane. When you approach someone from the rear, you get over, pass them, and then get back over into the TRAVELLING lane. In no circumstances do you stay in the left-lane unless you are actively passing someone. With one exception ... if you have room to get over to the left as you approach an entrance ramp, you do so, to allow those folks an easier time getting on and up to speed. Then you get back over.
I am admittedly a speeder and typical drive in the left lane but will always get over once i have passed someone and get over when faster cars approach even if I have to slide in and slow down - If you drive on I95 anywhere outside of a major city on the East Coast the average speed in the left lane is 85 - 90. I don't even go that fast - I will if i can ever afford the McLaren I have m eye on. I do find it amusing when grocery grabbers blow by me at 95.
 

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The left lane is for what.....passing. It's even posted all over now and cops are starting to actually pull over those that park in the left lane....thank goodness. It's so long overdue that they start enforcing the turtles out of the left lane causing backups. I don't really care so much about that on a 3 lane highway as you can get around it, but 2 lane highways are not made for people like you if you are doing this in traffic. If there is no traffic park in the left lane all you want to...have at it, but if 2-3 cars pass you in the right lane....yeah it's you, not them.

In terms of the HOA I live in a half senior half family complex and I laugh at some of these retirees. It's more so the same Karen's that gripe about every little thing online, but never can talk to the person they film or ask questions, it's right to the remarks....and usually it's about children. Mine haven't been called out but a few learned the hard way about posting pics of other kids online and didn't like it when the parents showed up at their door and called them out on it. There are plenty of 55 and older communities so it's odd they chose a place with families to settle into.


The left lane is for what.....passing. It's even posted all over now and cops are starting to actually pull over those that park in the left lane....thank goodness. It's so long overdue that they start enforcing the turtles out of the left lane causing backups. I don't really care so much about that on a 3 lane highway as you can get around it, but 2 lane highways are not made for people like you if you are doing this in traffic. If there is no traffic park in the left lane all you want to...have at it, but if 2-3 cars pass you in the right lane....yeah it's you, not them.

In terms of the HOA I live in a half senior half family complex and I laugh at some of these retirees. It's more so the same Karen's that gripe about every little thing online, but never can talk to the person they film or ask questions, it's right to the remarks....and usually it's about children. Mine haven't been called out but a few learned the hard way about posting pics of other kids online and didn't like it when the parents showed up at their door and called them out on it. There are plenty of 55 and older communities so it's odd they chose a place with families to settle into.

I agree with you that people should confront others in person if they have a complaint. I told my employees the same thing at work when they would complain about a coworker. I told them I could go talk to the person on their behalf but then they would hate you for blowing them in to the boss. I told them they would be much better off talking to them directly and only getting me involved as a last resort.

You sound like Moogy on the left lane issue. Yes the left lane is for passing but it shouldn't be limited to those passing at minimum speeds of 80-90 mph. It seems to me that I should be allowed to use the left lane while passing people going 78 mph. It's just wrong for people to be going near 80 mph and riding my bumper and flashing their lights because I'm passing slower traffic doing 78. Those are the same people who won't get over when a lane is closing for construction then demand you let them in at the point where the lane is completely closed.
 

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So you think going 8 mph over the speed limit while passing other cars is insufficient for using the left lane. Apparently you think if you're not going at least 80-90 mph over the speed limit you should stay behind slower cars in the middle or right lanes.

You must be one of those people who weaves in and out of all 3 lanes in an attempt to pick up a car length.
If one were to go 80-90 mph over the speed limit, that would be dangerous. I mean, that's 145-155 mph around these parts.

Yes, as stated before ... the PASSING lane is for passing. It's a "privilege" to be there ... a passing privilege. The default is to be in the middle or right lane (on a 3-lane highway). That's where you travel. If there is someone driving faster than you, you let them pass you, in the passing lane. When the coast is clear, and you want to pass the person in front of you, you can get over into the passing lane, pass that person, and then get back over into the other lane. This is basic driving etiquette. If you can't handle it, hire someone to drive you, Miss Daisy.

No, I don't weave in and out of all 3 lanes. Again, as explained, 80-90 is the cruising speed .... of many/most vehicles on the 3-lane highways around here. It's not the speed of the "zoom-zoom" kids who create danger on the roadways by weaving in and out of traffic.

And here's another note ... the typical method of handling the situation of an a-hole driver such as yourself on the road is to creep slightly closer than normal behind you in the passing lane, so you get the hint. Not so close that you're creating imminent danger ... but close enough a normally functioning and alert driver will see this person in their rearview mirror, and realize that this person wants to move faster, so I should get out of the way. If you, personally, are creating such logjams that people are flashing headlights and honking at you? That typically means the person in front is a special kind of a-hole - as in, really abusing the passing lane and gumming up traffic for a long stretch of road. That's usually a last resort when someone just can't figure it out (I would never honk on the highway unless there's an imminent threat of an accident, but flashing headlights has happened on very rare occasions).

Again, if you aren't getting this ... the DEFAULT lane is to the right (or middle). The left is a privilege. So, yes, if someone is going faster than you, and wants to continue to do so, you move over, slow down to the speed of the traffic in that lane, allow others to pass, and then get over into the passing lane when it's clear ... and you actually intend on passing someone in a reasonable manner. The default IS NOT to travel in the passing lane, and you'll get over when you're good and ready to do so, and when you feel others are being reasonable and you won't be inconvenienced. Once you actually understand this, you'll be on your way to becoming a decent driver ... and, when other folks like you also figure it out, traffic on the roadways will clear up considerably.
 
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I agree with you that people should confront others in person if they have a complaint. I told my employees the same thing at work when they would complain about a coworker. I told them I could go talk to the person on their behalf but then they would hate you for blowing them in to the boss. I told them they would be much better off talking to them directly and only getting me involved as a last resort.

You sound like Moogy on the left lane issue. Yes the left lane is for passing but it shouldn't be limited to those passing at minimum speeds of 80-90 mph. It seems to me that I should be allowed to use the left lane while passing people going 78 mph.
Just because you make up this rule in your head about 78mph doesn't mean that is what everyone else is doing. Nobody said passing on the left is limited to any speed at all, but that the left lane is a passing lane. You are the one who stated this "To me that's fast enough but you wouldn't believe the number of people who honk or flash their headlights at me. Eff them!" So basically it's bdgan's world and everyone else needs to do what he does and drive 78 MPH in the left lane? Again if it's bumper to bumper you can only do what the person in front of you is doing, but that isn't saying I'm doing 78 and eff everyone else. The fact you boasted about it is even more concerning to be honest. It's not hard at all to use the rear view to see people coming up and get over even it takes a minute or two due to people in the right lane being in the way. Just saying I'm parking it at 78 and eff everyone else....just lame.
 

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If one were to go 80-90 mph over the speed limit, that would be dangerous. I mean, that's 145-155 mph around these parts.

Yes, as stated before ... the PASSING lane is for passing. It's a "privilege" to be there ... a passing privilege. The default is to be in the middle or right lane (on a 3-lane highway). That's where you travel. If there is someone driving faster than you, you let them pass you, in the passing lane. When the coast is clear, and you want to pass the person in front of you, you can get over into the passing lane, pass that person, and then get back over into the other lane. This is basic driving etiquette. If you can't handle it, hire someone to drive you, Miss Daisy.

No, I don't weave in and out of all 3 lanes. Again, as explained, 80-90 is the cruising speed .... of many/most vehicles on the 3-lane highways around here. It's not the speed of the "zoom-zoom" kids who create danger on the roadways by weaving in and out of traffic.

And here's another note ... the typical method of handling the situation of an a-hole driver such as yourself on the road is to creep slightly closer than normal behind you in the passing lane, so you get the hint. Not so close that you're creating imminent danger ... but close enough a normally functioning and alert driver will see that this person wants to move faster, so I should get out of the way. If you, personally, are creating such logjams that people are flashing headlights and honking at you? That typically means the person in front is a special kind of a-hole - as in, really abusing the passing lane and gumming up traffic for a long stretch of road. That's usually a last resort when someone just can't figure it out (I would never honk on the highway unless there's an imminent threat of an accident, but flashing headlights has happened on very rare occasions).

Again, if you aren't getting this ... the DEFAULT lane is to the right (or middle). The left is a privilege. So, yes, if someone is going faster than you, and wants to continue to do so, you move over, slow down to the speed of the traffic in that lane, allow others to pass, and then get over into the passing lane when it's clear ... and you actually intend on passing someone in a reasonable manner. The default IS NOT to travel in the passing lane, and you'll get over when you're good and ready to do so, and when you feel others are being reasonable and you won't be inconvenienced. Once you actually understand this, you'll be on your way to becoming a decent driver ... and, when other folks like you also figure it out, traffic on the roadways will clear up considerably.
Learn to read. I talked about people riding my arse and flashing their headlights WHILE I'M PASSING other cars going nearly 10 mph over the speed limit.
 

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I agree with you that people should confront others in person if they have a complaint. I told my employees the same thing at work when they would complain about a coworker. I told them I could go talk to the person on their behalf but then they would hate you for blowing them in to the boss. I told them they would be much better off talking to them directly and only getting me involved as a last resort.

You sound like Moogy on the left lane issue. Yes the left lane is for passing but it shouldn't be limited to those passing at minimum speeds of 80-90 mph. It seems to me that I should be allowed to use the left lane while passing people going 78 mph. It's just wrong for people to be going near 80 mph and riding my bumper and flashing their lights because I'm passing slower traffic doing 78. Those are the same people who won't get over when a lane is closing for construction then demand you let them in at the point where the lane is completely closed.
Yes, you are correct. I will not get over to the right if I'm not first in line since it's the car in front that causes the backup. If you're not in front why get over for some a-hole tailgating. I always move over when in front if someone comes up behind. If you tailgate me while not in front I'll slow down just to eff with you.
 
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I am admittedly a speeder and typical drive in the left lane but will always get over once i have passed someone and get over when faster cars approach even if I have to slide in and slow down - If you drive on I95 anywhere outside of a major city on the East Coast the average speed in the left lane is 85 - 90. I don't even go that fast - I will if i can ever afford the McLaren I have m eye on. I do find it amusing when grocery grabbers blow by me at 95.
Yeah, every stretch of road is a bit different, and, of course, it also depends on the day and time of day ... but we travel eastern MA and surrounding environs (RI, NH, etc.) a lot for travel baseball and on weekends, I-95, 495 and other similar highways are 80ish on the right, 85 in the middle and 90 in the left generally. If some self-important or oblivious turd gums up that normal flow, it's irritating. We all spend enough time stuck in rush-hour stop-and-go traffic in and around the cities during the week, that no one needs to have to deal with nonsense on the weekends.

A grandpa who thinks he's going "fast enough" and everyone should adjust to his way of driving ... well, that person has already lived a long enough life ... sacrifices need to be made to appease the traffic gods.
 

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Learn to read. I talked about people riding my arse and flashing their headlights WHILE I'M PASSING other cars going nearly 10 mph over the speed limit.

I did read what you wrote, and I responded accordingly. You claimed you were going 77 or 78 (2 different claims) in a 70. We don't even have 70 mph limits around here, as I stated ... but the normal flow is, at a minimum, 80 (in the non-passing lanes). You also claimed that you were "gradually passing" folks, which leads people to believe that you're really taking your time.

AGAIN, the default is to be in the right or middle lane. The end.

It's a privilege to get over and pass someone in the left lane. If you are travelling in the middle lane, then quickly pass someone to the left, and then get back over to the middle lane again, no one's going to be honking, flashing or riding your arse.

Such actions would generally only occur if you're casually TRAVELLING in the passing lane, rather than using it for its intended purpose ... and you're not going with the general flow of traffic - you're going to your OWN flow. Whether that's 7 mph over the speed limit, or 10, or whatever ... doesn't matter. If you have the ability to get back over to the right, and someone is travelling faster than you, behind you, you move over, let them pass, and when the coast is clear, you can get back over to the left and, in an orderly (not slow and gradual) fashion, pass someone else.

In a hypothetical, if Lane A is generally travelling 75, Lane B is generally travelling 80 and Lane C is generally travelling 85 ... if YOU want to drive 82 ... tough titty. You drive 80 in Lane B, and when the coast is clear and you're not holding up anyone else, you can pass in Lane C, and then get back over to Lane B, where you slow down to 80 again. You don't stay in Lane C saying "well, I'm going to eventually pass someone else in Lane B, so you just hold your horse, mister who is behind me in Lane C wanting to go 85! I'm not slowing down to 80 for anybody!"

That's how this works.
 
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Yes, you are correct. I will not get over to the right if I'm not first in line since it's the car in front that causes the backup. If you're not in front why get over for some a-hole tailgating. I always move over when in front if someone comes up behind. If you tailgate me while not in front I'll slow down just to eff with you.

The problem here is that bdgan is the car that is first in line, causing the backup. Because it's his world and we're just living in it. He's going "fast enough," according to him, so we have to deal with him not understanding proper highway etiquette and being a selfish d-bag.
 

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The problem here is that bdgan is the car that is first in line, causing the backup. Because it's his world and we're just living in it. He's going "fast enough," according to him, so we have to deal with him not understanding proper highway etiquette and being a selfish d-bag.
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I did read what you wrote, and I responded accordingly. You claimed you were going 77 or 78 (2 different claims) in a 70. We don't even have 70 mph limits around here, as I stated ... but the normal flow is, at a minimum, 80 (in the non-passing lanes). You also claimed that you were "gradually passing" folks, which leads people to believe that you're really taking your time.

AGAIN, the default is to be in the right or middle lane. The end.

It's a privilege to get over and pass someone in the left lane. If you are travelling in the middle lane, then quickly pass someone to the left, and then get back over to the middle lane again, no one's going to be honking, flashing or riding your arse.

Such actions would generally only occur if you're casually TRAVELLING in the passing lane, rather than using it for its intended purpose ... and you're not going with the general flow of traffic - you're going to your OWN flow. Whether that's 7 mph over the speed limit, or 10, or whatever ... doesn't matter. If you have the ability to get back over to the right, and someone is travelling faster than you, behind you, you move over, let them pass, and when the coast is clear, you can get back over to the left and, in an orderly (not slow and gradual) fashion, pass someone else.

In a hypothetical, if Lane A is generally travelling 75, Lane B is generally travelling 80 and Lane C is generally travelling 85 ... if YOU want to drive 82 ... tough titty. You drive 80 in Lane B, and when the coast is clear and you're not holding up anyone else, you can pass in Lane C, and then get back over to Lane B, where you slow down to 80 again. You don't stay in Lane C saying "well, I'm going to eventually pass someone else in Lane B, so you just hold your horse, mister who is behind me in Lane C wanting to go 85! I'm not slowing down to 80 for anybody!"

That's how this works.
If you are travelling in the middle lane, then quickly pass someone to the left, and then get back over to the middle lane again, no one's going to be honking, flashing or riding your arse.

FALSE! YOUR HYPOTHETICAL THAT THE FAR RIGHT LANE GOES 75, THAT THE MIDDLE LANE GOES 80, AND THE LEFT LANE GOES 85 IS ALSO FALSE (AT LEAST ON THE ROADS I DRIVE... 95 AND 75). IN FACT WHAT YOU SAY MAKES NO SENSE. WHY WOULD I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS AT 78 MPH WHEN TRAFFIC IN THE MIDDLE LANE IS GOING 80 MPH?

You don't stay in Lane C saying "well, I'm going to eventually pass someone else in Lane B

I NEVER DO THAT AND IT'S NOT WHAT I POSTED. MY COMPLAINT IS THAT I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS CARS THAT ARE MOVING MUCH SLOWER (USUALLY 65 OR LESS). I MIGHT BE PASSING 10 CARS IN THE LEFT LANE ONE AFTER ANOTHER, NOT EVENTUALLY. YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP.


I USUALLY GO JUST UNDER 10 MPH OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. IT'S A SPEED THAT I FEEL SAFE AND COPS ARE UNLIKELY TO PULL ME OVER IF I'M GOING THAT SPEED. WHEN SOMEBODY IS BACKING UP THE MIDDLE LANE BY GOING 63 I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS THEM WHILE USUALLY STAYING UNDER 80. I MIGHT PASS 10 OR MORE CARS THAT THE 63 MPH CAR HAS BACKED UP AND WHILE I'M DOING SO.
 

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If you are travelling in the middle lane, then quickly pass someone to the left, and then get back over to the middle lane again, no one's going to be honking, flashing or riding your arse.

FALSE! YOUR HYPOTHETICAL THAT THE FAR RIGHT LANE GOES 75, THAT THE MIDDLE LANE GOES 80, AND THE LEFT LANE GOES 85 IS ALSO FALSE (AT LEAST ON THE ROADS I DRIVE... 95 AND 75). IN FACT WHAT YOU SAY MAKES NO SENSE. WHY WOULD I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS AT 78 MPH WHEN TRAFFIC IN THE MIDDLE LANE IS GOING 80 MPH?

You don't stay in Lane C saying "well, I'm going to eventually pass someone else in Lane B

I NEVER DO THAT AND IT'S NOT WHAT I POSTED. MY COMPLAINT IS THAT I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS CARS THAT ARE MOVING MUCH SLOWER (USUALLY 65 OR LESS). I MIGHT BE PASSING 10 CARS IN THE LEFT LANE ONE AFTER ANOTHER, NOT EVENTUALLY. YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP.


I USUALLY GO JUST UNDER 10 MPH OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. IT'S A SPEED THAT I FEEL SAFE AND COPS ARE UNLIKELY TO PULL ME OVER IF I'M GOING THAT SPEED. WHEN SOMEBODY IS BACKING UP THE MIDDLE LANE BY GOING 63 I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS THEM WHILE USUALLY STAYING UNDER 80. I MIGHT PASS 10 OR MORE CARS THAT THE 63 MPH CAR HAS BACKED UP AND WHILE I'M DOING SO.
Yeah don’t do that, stay put
 

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Your definition of highway etiquette is to stay out of the passing lane unless you're going 80-90.

Here's another thing I do that probably pisses you off. I was taught to leave 1 car length in front of me for each 10 mph of speed. That means if you're going 80 mph you should leave 8 car lengths. I probably only leave half that much. In fact the old junker you say I drive has adaptive cruise control and slows me down automatically. You're probably the guy who weaves between all lanes and back in order to fill that 4 car length gap.
 

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Your definition of highway etiquette is to stay out of the passing lane unless you're going 80-90.

Here's another thing I do that probably pisses you off. I was taught to leave 1 car length in front of me for each 10 mph of speed. That means if you're going 80 mph you should leave 8 car lengths. I probably only leave half that much. In fact the old junker you say I drive has adaptive cruise control and slows me down automatically. You're probably the guy who weaves between all lanes and back in order to fill that 4 car length gap.

I wasn't replying to you. Just the drive by and hit and run crew.
 

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Haha I haven't seen bdgan get his panties in a wad in awhile. Good times.
 

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FALSE! YOUR HYPOTHETICAL THAT THE FAR RIGHT LANE GOES 75, THAT THE MIDDLE LANE GOES 80, AND THE LEFT LANE GOES 85 IS ALSO FALSE (AT LEAST ON THE ROADS I DRIVE... 95 AND 75). IN FACT WHAT YOU SAY MAKES NO SENSE. WHY WOULD I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS AT 78 MPH WHEN TRAFFIC IN THE MIDDLE LANE IS GOING 80 MPH?

Dude, you shouldn't have a license. You should, in fact, be tested for basic life competency. First, a hypothetical is, by definition, not real. That's why it's a hypothetical. Second, your assertion I insinuated that you would move to the left lane at 78 mph when traffic in the middle is going 80 ... where in the hell did you come up with that? I spelled out, in the hypothetical, that you would be wanting to go 82, with the middle going 80 and the left going 85. Do you really not know what "hypothetical" means? My hypothetical laid out a scenario where one lane was going speed X, the other lane was going speed Z, and you wanted to go speed Y, which was in between X and Z. In that case, you have to either speed up to speed Z (in the left lane) or slow down to speed X (in the middle lane). You don't get to go to the left lane and go speed Y.

I NEVER DO THAT AND IT'S NOT WHAT I POSTED. MY COMPLAINT IS THAT I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS CARS THAT ARE MOVING MUCH SLOWER (USUALLY 65 OR LESS). I MIGHT BE PASSING 10 CARS IN THE LEFT LANE ONE AFTER ANOTHER, NOT EVENTUALLY. YOU'RE MAKING THAT UP.


I USUALLY GO JUST UNDER 10 MPH OVER THE SPEED LIMIT. IT'S A SPEED THAT I FEEL SAFE AND COPS ARE UNLIKELY TO PULL ME OVER IF I'M GOING THAT SPEED. WHEN SOMEBODY IS BACKING UP THE MIDDLE LANE BY GOING 63 I MOVE TO THE LEFT LANE TO PASS THEM WHILE USUALLY STAYING UNDER 80. I MIGHT PASS 10 OR MORE CARS THAT THE 63 MPH CAR HAS BACKED UP AND WHILE I'M DOING SO.

And if you're doing that, while people behind you, in the left lane, want to go 80+, get your slow *** over to the middle lane, and wait for those folks to pass you on the left. And then you can get back over to the left and slowly pass cars again ... until more cars approach you from the rear, at which point you need to get over again.

How are you not getting this?

And where the hell are you driving where at least 10 cars at a time are driving at least 5 mph UNDER the speed limit on the highway?!? Are you sure you aren't just playing on the Oculus at an old folks' home, and other inhabitants are the ones "on the road"? The only people who ever drive close to the actual stated speed limit on the highway (barring traffic which slows everyone down), are the old folks, driving 30 year old cars, who can barely see over the dashboard, and can barely see the road, regardless.
 
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Your definition of highway etiquette is to stay out of the passing lane unless you're going 80-90.

Here's another thing I do that probably pisses you off. I was taught to leave 1 car length in front of me for each 10 mph of speed. That means if you're going 80 mph you should leave 8 car lengths. I probably only leave half that much. In fact the old junker you say I drive has adaptive cruise control and slows me down automatically. You're probably the guy who weaves between all lanes and back in order to fill that 4 car length gap.
You just responded to the wrong person. Someone should call in a welfare check on your behalf. Have you fallen and you can't get up? Have you hit your head?
 
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You gotta share the road. There are always drivers who push the envelope, the only rational way to deal with these a-holes is to GTF out of their way. I tend to give them a hearty “Bite me” as they go by, and sometimes pull out the familiar Italian chin gesture (does it have a name? Anybody?) when sufficiently peeved. But I never block people. When someone wants to go by me on the interstate, he goes by. Simple rule of the road, don’t block other cars in if you can help it.
 
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You gotta share the road. There are always drivers who push the envelope, the only rational way to deal with these a-holes is to GTF out of their way. I tend to give them a hearty “Bite me” as they go by, and sometimes pull out the familiar Italian chin gesture (does it have a name? Anybody?) when sufficiently peeved. But I never block people. When someone wants to go by me on the interstate, he goes by. Simple rule of the road, don’t block other cars in if you can help it.
I'll always get over and allow the 90 mph drivers to get past me once I'm through passing cars travelling 65. I just think I have the right to pass those people in the left lane going 78 without having people tailgate and flash their lights. Some obviously disagree.