In the spirit of differing political opinions…

[Drebin]

My daughter went to Miss. College. She earned the right to go where she wanted to go through her academic achievement and that's where she wanted to go. My son is at State now, which is exactly where he wanted to be.

We can have influence but at the end of the day, my philosophy is that I support where they want to go if they earned that right through achievement in high school.

 

[Called3rdstrikedawg]

I have three kids within 6 years of entering college. How likely does the Pack throw support to another college if your kids choose to not attend State?

Write them out of the will, blank check book for out of state tuition, buy new swag to show my support, etc.?

I’m more Liberal on the subject than I would have been 10 years ago.

Meh. Let em be all they can be. Sign em up for Military service, give em a duffel bag and a pat on the back and tell em to keep their head down.

 

[Pilgrimdawg]

Both of my boys went to State. When they were in high school we had a conversation with a baseball recruiting service and told them that we would consider any school except for Ole Miss. when they asked us why, we just said that we were better parents than that.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

Meh. Let em be all they can be. Sign em up for Military service, give em a duffel bag and a pat on the back and tell em to keep their head down.

If you do it right, and with a plan, military can be a GREAT option.

 

[615dawg]

Curious question......when I see all these parents talking about their kids attending college, why is it always the big major ones like you list. With costs rising everywhere, is no one interested in USM, South Alabama, Kennesaw State, Memphis? What is it about driving all over and being able to go to these public schools?

Baylor and TCU are different - they are private and offer different things. But MSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Arkansas? What's the big deal there? Is it humblebrag/status?

For mine, they want a big time college experience with Power 4 sports. Same as me back in the 90s. I chose State over a higher scholarship to Jacksonville State and UAB partly because of access to SEC sports. Of course UAB was FCS at the time and Jax State was D2.

And for those of you that are tired of me bitching about stuff at State, my bitching comes from the heart that none of my kids are really interested in State because of a myriad of factors, including student experience, which the entire SEC kicks our *** on.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

For mine, they want a big time college experience with Power 4 sports. Same as me back in the 90s. I chose State over a higher scholarship to Jacksonville State and UAB partly because of access to SEC sports. Of course UAB was FCS at the time and Jax State was D2.

And for those of you that are tired of me bitching about stuff at State, my bitching comes from the heart that none of my kids are really interested in State because of a myriad of factors, including student experience, which the entire SEC kicks our *** on.

Fair enough, and I suppose that is a big factor, at least in the social aspect of things. Which seems to have exploded even more here lately, if social media is any indication. And I get that if your intent is to have fun. If it's to gain a future professional network, I don't buy it at all.

I see people talking about looking at Clemson, Alabama, Texas A&M, MSU, Arkansas, whatever. My response is always, "Is the major you want located at a college in-state?" "Yes". "Go there". To me that's the entire purpose. Only way I'd go out-of-state to a public university is if they create a situation where the money was similar. Would not even be a consideration beyond that.

Post-secondary education is better for a future network, in my opinion. So to me, I say go wherever is cheapest and offers what you want.

 

[PooPopsBaldHead]

Lot of folks out there hollering about trades, but I often recommend they at least get a business degree to go along with it.

But I do agree, you can't go wrong with HVAC, electrical or plumbing. They'll always been needed.

I get the what you are trying to say, but you can absolutely go wrong with those things. Everyone is is built to be in trades about as much as everyone should be a doctor. If you have a kid that is willing to bust their butt 60+ hours a week for 10-20 years in some of the most god-awful conditions you can imagine, then they are good candidates for the trades and can do very well.

Ask @Motodawg. It ain't for many. And I know a lot more crappy HVAC, plumbing, electrical trades that live pretty crumby lives because they don't have what it takes to succeed in the field. I know when I sold my concrete business their were a bunch of kids that thought they had what it took and they lasted about as long as Clinton in Helen would with Margot Robbie.

As I have said before, there are very few people who can both master a trade and be a successful entrepreneur. Plumbing and HVAV companies have the highest failure rate of any industry in the country. Worse than startup restaurants.

Article about the challenge

A business degree may help, but being a successful entrepreneur or small business owner has a lot more to do with your willingness to be the first one in, last one to leave, and willingness to put everyone else's needs ahead of your own. You will rarely make more income than you could working for someone else for the first 5+ years and the single greatest skill you must possess is a willingness to eat shìt with a smile on your face because your customers, employees, and regulators are usually morons, but you have to have them.

 

[Yeti]

I have two daughters number 1 went to Bama and I love to watch them with her. Pull for them unless against MSU. Number 2 currently at Texas..hook em is now part of my vocabulary. Would have been happy if they went to OM if they liked it. I didn’t care where they went

 

[615dawg]

Post-secondary education is better for a future network, in my opinion. So to me, I say go wherever is cheapest and offers what you want.

I agree with you 110%. But the bottom line price is what people look at. State is getting their *** kicked by Ole Miss in scholarships. Out of state schools are waiving out of state tuition and are very competitive price wise.

 

[Colonel Angus.sixpack]

I sent mine to LSU and ULL. Their decision but also a financial decision due to scholarships offered and TOPS money. I don’t give a fûcķ where they go as long as they get an education and graduate. If they flunk or drop out then I’d be pissed, not about their choice but rather their lack of effort.

 

[stateu1]

I think State offers a huge value. I had one graduate recently and a junior now. The first year salary of the recent grad will exceed his tuition cost easily.

 

[Motodawg]

I get the what you are trying to say, but you can absolutely go wrong with those things. Everyone is is built to be in trades about as much as everyone should be a doctor. If you have a kid that is willing to bust their butt 60+ hours a week for 10-20 years in some of the most god-awful conditions you can imagine, then they are good candidates for the trades and can do very well.

Ask @Motodawg. It ain't for many. And I know a lot more crappy HVAC, plumbing, electrical trades that live pretty crumby lives because they don't have what it takes to succeed in the field. I know when I sold my concrete business their were a bunch of kids that thought they had what it took and they lasted about as long as Clinton in Helen would with Margot Robbie.

As I have said before, there are very few people who can both master a trade and be a successful entrepreneur. Plumbing and HVAV companies have the highest failure rate of any industry in the country. Worse than startup restaurants.

Article about the challenge

A business degree may help, but being a successful entrepreneur or small business owner has a lot more to do with your willingness to be the first one in, last one to leave, and willingness to put everyone else's needs ahead of your own. You will rarely make more income than you could working for someone else for the first 5+ years and the single greatest skill you must possess is a willingness to eat shìt with a smile on your face because your customers, employees, and regulators are usually morons, but you have to have them.

You are a wise man, sir! I owe you a beer for this post!

 

[Dawg84]

I get the what you are trying to say, but you can absolutely go wrong with those things. Everyone is is built to be in trades about as much as everyone should be a doctor. If you have a kid that is willing to bust their butt 60+ hours a week for 10-20 years in some of the most god-awful conditions you can imagine, then they are good candidates for the trades and can do very well.

Ask @Motodawg. It ain't for many. And I know a lot more crappy HVAC, plumbing, electrical trades that live pretty crumby lives because they don't have what it takes to succeed in the field. I know when I sold my concrete business their were a bunch of kids that thought they had what it took and they lasted about as long as Clinton in Helen would with Margot Robbie.

As I have said before, there are very few people who can both master a trade and be a successful entrepreneur. Plumbing and HVAV companies have the highest failure rate of any industry in the country. Worse than startup restaurants.

Article about the challenge

A business degree may help, but being a successful entrepreneur or small business owner has a lot more to do with your willingness to be the first one in, last one to leave, and willingness to put everyone else's needs ahead of your own. You will rarely make more income than you could working for someone else for the first 5+ years and the single greatest skill you must possess is a willingness to eat shìt with a smile on your face because your customers, employees, and regulators are usually morons, but you have to have them.

A lot of truth to this! One of the toughest aspects of having your own business in the trades, is trying to multitask on several jobs at once, so that you’re able to have income from multiple sources. Also, regardless of the fact that you might be the business owner, and in charge of the process, you are still at the mercy of the customer, the weather, the season, the economy, etc. Gotta have a brass set to make it happen.

 

[Maroon Eagle]

HVAC is constantly cited, alongside other building and maintenance trades, as a great alternative. And yeah- they absolutely cant be great alternatives.
Around me though, I dont know of any small HVAC companies, much less one owned by anyone young. Almost all are brands of larger construction companies or large companies themselves. I have read that the cost to enter is pretty high, compared to electrician or plumber, which is why there are so many more small electrician and plumbing companies.
^Maybe thats just unique to around me and there are a ton of small HVAC companies in places where the cost to enter is low.

Based on what I’ve seen here in Mississippi, I’d agree with what you’re saying here.

- It’s unrealistic to have a flood of people come into trades and own their own businesses. Few will last and others will end up as employees. There is a reason why so many building and maintenance trade workers with broken bodies that are in their 50s. That has to be planned for at 20 years old and frequently sure doesnt seem to be.

Last year I asked an electrician who’s done work around my house to come by. He’s in his 50s— possibly 60 and he had a younger guy come in with him who was in his 20s or 30s who did most of the work.

I was wondering if they’d made a deal where the younger guy would buy out the older electrician in a few years.

 

[peewee.sixpack]

My degree in Gender Diversity has served me well. ***

You must work in HR for the federal government.