Interesting situation for Saquon.

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Who could read anything behind the line he’s played with his entire career?

That’s my point. Few terrible years with a horrible OL and coach and now a new coach that radically changes the O and they go to the playoffs while Jones was wildly average? That ain’t $45m performance stuff.
 
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Barkley needs to get out of NY. He’s already done enough damage to his career playing there. He needs to go somewhere with a strong OLine, a good QB, and some receivers…a team that’s a contender so he can prolong his career while getting a shot at a SB even if he has to take less money.
 

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Barkley needs to get out of NY. He’s already done enough damage to his career playing there. He needs to go somewhere with a strong OLine, a good QB, and some receivers…a team that’s a contender so he can prolong his career while getting a shot at a SB even if he has to take less money.
He could probably do that tomorrow just lower his asking price
 
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Stop spending money on running backs. Unless you’re not the eagles, then by all means spend away
 

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An equally intriguing situation is who will be the Jets starting QB next season?
 

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Barkley needs to get out of NY. He’s already done enough damage to his career playing there. He needs to go somewhere with a strong OLine, a good QB, and some receivers…a team that’s a contender so he can prolong his career while getting a shot at a SB even if he has to take less money.
I'm interested in what team(s) those would be?
 

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Lamar Jackson doesn’t have an agent. I am astounded.
 

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Lamar Jackson doesn’t have an agent. I am astounded.
yes he does, his mom, LOL

PFT acts like somebody else will pay him, plus give the Ravens 2 first round picks, I just dont see that especially as Cleveland has Watson under contract, but then again, who is the Commodores QB??
 
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Chiefs, Bills, Dolphins come to mind.
Chiefs won the 2023 SB with late 7th round pick Pacheco who's contract is 4 years for 3.7 million so probably not. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, their 2020 first round RB pick didn't make the roster for the SB. The Bills and Phins should draft RB. Word is the Titans may be looking to trade Henry. Where does he go?
 

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Chiefs won the 2023 SB with late 7th round pick Pacheco who's contract is 4 years for 3.7 million so probably not. Clyde Edwards-Helaire, their 2020 first round RB pick didn't make the roster for the SB. The Bills and Phins should draft RB. Word is the Titans may be looking to trade Henry. Where does he go?
I’d absolutely pass on Henry. Too many miles.
 

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I’d absolutely pass on Henry. Too many miles.
If a team like the Dolphins think they are one player away while Tua's contract is expiring soon and they're not sure if they'd like to re-sign him, I can see that happening. Tua is still cheap and they spent mega bucks on Tyreek.
 

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QB Jones is sure not in top tier of QBs but that is the NFL-so many times have bad QBs. A few of them are drafting high this year and QB situation should improve dramatically. Reality is RBs because of the physical pounding typically have shorter careers. Saquan is a sensible guy who seems to realize the reality of the situation and accepts that his career will not go on forever. Just hard to see Jones getting 4 times as much this year but NFL salary system (from franchise tag fees down) favors the rare commodity- a good QB and Jones is in that category. Clearly the great ones like Mahomes and a few others are in another tier.
 

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on Daniel Jones from profootball talk..

That said, it’s basically a three-year, $112.5 million contract, given that the $47.5 million due in 2026 is not guaranteed. That’s an average of $37.5 million.

The Giants also could escape the deal after two years, with $82 million paid and $12 million in 2025 guarantees that would be subject to offset. Still, that’s a worst-case scenario of $94 million over two years for the Giants — and average of $47 million per year.
 

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on Daniel Jones from profootball talk..

That said, it’s basically a three-year, $112.5 million contract, given that the $47.5 million due in 2026 is not guaranteed. That’s an average of $37.5 million.

The Giants also could escape the deal after two years, with $82 million paid and $12 million in 2025 guarantees that would be subject to offset. Still, that’s a worst-case scenario of $94 million over two years for the Giants — and average of $47 million per year.

I should have been a QB. Of course, I could have been, but I chose not to.
 
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You’d have been called for delay of game on every play. Some things just aren’t in the cards, for example me being one of the Pips.
 

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Daboll better be the genius Joe Schoen thinks he is
I think the fan with an above average IQ knows how this all likely plays out. Jones is a gritty QB but is nowhere near good enough to carry a franchise. And even three years at $47 million per is a bad outcome from this.

The Giants continue to fall victim to over valuing their own players and locking them up at premium prices. They are going to trot back essentially the same team that played over their heads last year and it won’t be enough to really contend barring some amazing draft hits.

The cycle likely continues.
 

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I think the fan with an above average IQ knows how this all likely plays out. Jones is a gritty QB but is nowhere near good enough to carry a franchise. And even three years at $47 million per is a bad outcome from this.

The Giants continue to fall victim to over valuing their own players and locking them up at premium prices. They are going to trot back essentially the same team that played over their heads last year and it won’t be enough to really contend barring some amazing draft hits.

The cycle likely continues.
OK as an Eagles fan we can only hope, but OTOH what should have the Giants done? Not resigned Jones? Who takes his place? Derek Carr? for crying out loud. Trade 2 first for Lamar? Wait for Carolina to release one on their scrap heap? Drafted Levis? as far as I could tell Jones was their best option, and thats the going tab for a QB. Maybe they could have signed Nick Foles.
 
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OK as an Eagles fan we can only hope, but OTOH what should have the Giants done? Not resigned Jones? Who takes his place? Derek Carr? for crying out loud. Trade 2 first for Lamar? Wait for Carolina to release one on their scrap heap? Drafted Levis? as far as I could tell Jones was their best option, and thats the going tab for a QB. Maybe they could have signed Nick Foles.
Pretty much my own thoughts. Where are you going to go if you let Jones walk?
 
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Pretty much my own thoughts. Where are you going to go if you let Jones walk?
the only thing you could do I guess, is let Jones walk, and when nobody else wants to pay him starter money, maybe then the Giants could get him on the cheap. OTOH here's a young guy coming off a good season, would Carolina jump on him? Maybe, how about Indy? or even Washington? I think all 3 of those would have an interest, but the key is at what $$$$ level.
 

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Giants want to re-sign both Saquon and QB Daniel (Lunkhead) Jones. Cap management strategy was to sing Jones to a long term deal and franchise tag Barkley. Tag deadline is tomorrow.

Fly in the ointment is that Jones wants $45mm. That's Mahomes territory. Causing the Giants to swallow hard.

So what's to be done? They can tag Jones at about $35mm for one year and sign Barkley to a long-term deal at around $15mm p.a. That has some appeal, but long-term deals for RBs haven't had the habit of working out (Exhibit A is one Mr. E Elliott). Given what I think of Jones, which should be apparent by the appellation I've bestowed on him, I'd go with this.
Barkley gets $10.09 M this season. He’ll survive.
 

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What would be genius would be in about a month take the tag off SB ( I doubt he signs it) and sign Miles Sanders for half the money
With all due respect, Miles Sanders is not in Saquon’s class. He is a good runner without finishing speed. He is a very mediocre receiver. Most importantly, he is a fumbler.
Miles has played on a much better team than Saquon. There-in lies the only advantage for Miles.
 

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Not in Saquon's class?
one had 259 carries, for 1269 yds 11 TD 4.9 ypc
other 295 carries for 1312 yds 10 tds 4.4 ypc
the first is Miles the other is SB. You are correct Sanders is a fumbler compared to SB, in 2022 MS had 2 fumbles on runs while SB had 1, twice as many.
so as you can see MS is clearly not in SB class, lol.
the only way SB gets on a better team is to get better players. One way to get better players is with more money. Putting $10 Million in a RB is not the way to get better players, especially if you can get the substainally the same for half to quarter of the money.
 

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Not in Saquon's class?
one had 259 carries, for 1269 yds 11 TD 4.9 ypc
other 295 carries for 1312 yds 10 tds 4.4 ypc
the first is Miles the other is SB. You are correct Sanders is a fumbler compared to SB, in 2022 MS had 2 fumbles on runs while SB had 1, twice as many.
so as you can see MS is clearly not in SB class, lol.
the only way SB gets on a better team is to get better players. One way to get better players is with more money. Putting $10 Million in a RB is not the way to get better players, especially if you can get the substainally the same for half to quarter of the money.
But sluggo, I weaken cause. Check his vision at 3 min
 
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