As I get older I'm trying to be more healthy and cut out drinking and such (insert your drug of choice). This got me thinking about if there really is a world out there without mind-altering substances. I know there is (Baptists) but I cannot imagine life that way, and I grew up that way. It's just so foreign to me now.
And further, is it possible to go through your younger years/college without partying? I'm not really joking here, I mean I would love all my kids to be church-going perfect citizens, but are you prepping them for a meltdown?
I'd like to hear from people that are totally substance-free. What are the things you do to have fun? How can you have fun without day-drinking? One of the greatest joys in life.
Also - not talking about pain management here...I'm talking about recreation.
Yeah, makes no sense. MSU fans need alcohol just to stay on this emotional roller coaster.Damn guys,
Slap me down and call me stupid..
I would have bet my life that 92% of posters on this board were full time, card carrying, waiting on 5pm , drunk as a monkey, alcoholics
Man this resonates, especially the hangovers. I mean it’s obvious I think there’s a problem or I wouldn't have made this post.I hung it up 4 years ago. I’m 47. Just got tired of feeling crappy. Even after 2-3 beers I would feel sluggish for a day or two. So if I drank a couple times a week I was never 100% at any point. Either drinking or recovering from it.
When you quit, it takes about 30 days to start to wake up. 6 months your mind starts to sharpen and after a year or so, you realize that you’ve been less than yourself for the entire time that you’ve been using alcohol. It truly is poison that has done more damage to humans than any other substance. If it were invented today, there is no way it would be legal.
As for staying sober, yeah it takes some effort at first if your drinking has been habitual. For me it was Pavlovian in the sense that most of my social activities also included alcohol so I had to fight that innate urge for a while but it wears off pretty quickly. Also, there is a fear that it will be awkward around your friends when you tell them you don’t drink anymore. But you’ll quickly realize that no one really cares and the people that do aren’t really friends anyway.
Good luck if you are serious about wanting to quit. It’s like waking up from the matrix if you do. You’ll become aware of the fact that everything is built around alcohol in our culture both in the US and around the world. It’s crazy.
17 man, make that since July 1, 2021. Won that title and it's all been down hill since.Have you watched MSU athletics this year??... I don't think you're polling the correct group of people.
this is my vice. Milk with cookies, preferably cookie dough.Oh, and I drink milk with cookies or late night snacks.
I started a CPAP this year to try to end the constant fatigue I was experiencing. Still working on getting 7 hours a night, which is half the battle. The improvements there, the ending of the constant bad feeling, made plain the worse I felt after only a little drinking, how even a little completely fractures your sleep and compounds that problem if you have it. Maybe I'll pick it back up in retirement or when the kids are old enough (a decade?) that I can sleep in on weekends again. Until then, I just can't afford it. I've been dabbling into non-alcoholic concoctions that I like for the late night drink. Simply lemonade and cranberry cocktail is a fave. Maybe I'll add a dash of leftover bitters next time.I hung it up 4 years ago. I’m 47. Just got tired of feeling crappy. Even after 2-3 beers I would feel sluggish for a day or two. So if I drank a couple times a week I was never 100% at any point. Either drinking or recovering from it.
When you quit, it takes about 30 days to start to wake up. 6 months your mind starts to sharpen and after a year or so, you realize that you’ve been less than yourself for the entire time that you’ve been using alcohol. It truly is poison that has done more damage to humans than any other substance. If it were invented today, there is no way it would be legal.
As for staying sober, yeah it takes some effort at first if your drinking has been habitual. For me it was Pavlovian in the sense that most of my social activities also included alcohol so I had to fight that innate urge for a while but it wears off pretty quickly. Also, there is a fear that it will be awkward around your friends when you tell them you don’t drink anymore. But you’ll quickly realize that no one really cares and the people that do aren’t really friends anyway.
Good luck if you are serious about wanting to quit. It’s like waking up from the matrix if you do. You’ll become aware of the fact that everything is built around alcohol in our culture both in the US and around the world. It’s crazy.
Bunch of pusses in this tread, I'm pushing 60, drink whiskey by the gallon, never back down and love a good challenge
Honestly I do enjoy going to breweries. I don't drink watered down shite. I don't drink a case just to drink either. I like trying different flavors of darks and browns different ales. All of it has flavor. Some of the dark ones are pretty stout. I also usually only have 2-3 most time I go. Don't really drink hard liquor any more. Used to really like bourbon but body can't really take it any more. Still enjoy a good margarita on the rocks. To me dark craft beer or a margarita is better than soda or sweet tea. I'm also not drinking every day or drinking 3-4 margaritas or like I said a case. As another said moderation is key. If you just drinking to get drunk then that's when it becomes a problem.I think if people are honest, they would say the only reason they drink is for the buzz. None of it tastes better than non-alcoholic alternatives. At least that’s the been the case for me. As dorn mentioned, one day (early 30’s) I realized I felt like crap after a night of drinking and that’s when I basically quit.
On the other hand, I did shoot my best round of golf in a long time (74) a couple of years ago while I was severely hungover. It was the last time I was hungover and I haven’t played that good since. Maybe I should drink more?
Hell damn yes.Bunch of pusses in this tread, I'm pushing 60, drink whiskey by the gallon, never back down and love a good challenge
Bunch of pusses in this tread, I'm pushing 60, drink whiskey by the gallon, never back down and love a good challenge
Finally some sense from this boardBunch of pusses in this tread, I'm pushing 60, drink whiskey by the gallon, never back down and love a good challenge
Don't worry, the craft beer scene is so 2013. It appears to be playing itself out.Explosive diarrhea and headaches after even a small amount of alcohol was a very effective deterrent for me. It’s probably been 20 years since I had a drink, and it was only an occasional thing before that. Plus, I hated the taste of all of it.
I often wish I liked beer because it seems like fun to be able to try all the different flavors and styles. Unfortunately, it all tasted the same to me.
I have chosen to let Diet Coke slowly destroy me, instead.
Sounds like there are at least 3 of us in the milk+sweet brotherhood before bed. Done it every night since I can remember of my +65 year life. I traveled a good bit internationally at one point and always took on the challenge of finding a C/grocery store near the hotel to find cold milk. Actually had a pretty good hit rate. Then came the challenge of trying to read what kind of "milk" it was and finally paying for it given you ae deep in the local scene at that point. Recall the biggest challenge was a small town in Japan but found a tiny C-store and what looked like the dairy case, saw 2% on a bottle and might have had a picture of a cow. Found what looked like something sweet then held out the money I had and they took what was needed. Fun times.this is my vice. Milk with cookies, preferably cookie dough.
You sound like a teenage girlDon't worry, the craft beer scene is so 2013. It appears to be playing itself out.
Pretty much every alcohol is an acquired taste, but I think most people that drink acquire a taste for their particular favorite(s). I like the taste of bourbon. I like to have a drink of bourbon to cap off the day even when I know I'm only going to have one and not get a buzz. Same thing with red wine. I don't like it to the same extent by itself, but if I'm having a steak or italian food with a red gravy or sauce, I'm going to want a glass of red with it, even if I'm only going to have one.I think if people are honest, they would say the only reason they drink is for the buzz. None of it tastes better than non-alcoholic alternatives. At least that’s the been the case for me. As dorn mentioned, one day (early 30’s) I realized I felt like crap after a night of drinking and that’s when I basically quit.
On the other hand, I did shoot my best round of golf in a long time (74) a couple of years ago while I was severely hungover. It was the last time I was hungover and I haven’t played that good since. Maybe I should drink more?
I started a variation of a program called 75 Hard the day after Christmas. I recommend it.As I get older I'm trying to be more healthy and cut out drinking and such (insert your drug of choice). This got me thinking about if there really is a world out there without mind-altering substances. I know there is (Baptists) but I cannot imagine life that way, and I grew up that way. It's just so foreign to me now.
And further, is it possible to go through your younger years/college without partying? I'm not really joking here, I mean I would love all my kids to be church-going perfect citizens, but are you prepping them for a meltdown?
I'd like to hear from people that are totally substance-free. What are the things you do to have fun? How can you have fun without day-drinking? One of the greatest joys in life.
Also - not talking about pain management here...I'm talking about recreation.
It’s started to take me 2-3 days to recover from the hangxiety if I drink enough to have fun.As I get older I'm trying to be more healthy and cut out drinking and such (insert your drug of choice). This got me thinking about if there really is a world out there without mind-altering substances. I know there is (Baptists) but I cannot imagine life that way, and I grew up that way. It's just so foreign to me now.
And further, is it possible to go through your younger years/college without partying? I'm not really joking here, I mean I would love all my kids to be church-going perfect citizens, but are you prepping them for a meltdown?
I'd like to hear from people that are totally substance-free. What are the things you do to have fun? How can you have fun without day-drinking? One of the greatest joys in life.
Also - not talking about pain management here...I'm talking about recreation.
Well, the experiences from the latter can affect the impacts of the former.Looks like everybody is different. Some handle alcohol with no issues. Some handle it with repercussions of various severity. Some can't handle it.
Now, let's do women.
My oldest is now 12 and wants to lift….im thinking this may be the answerI can count on 1 hand the number of times and dark beers I’ve had in the last year and likely the same for about 15 years
reasons - I had my 1st child and that walk from the OR to the room made crystal clear my purpose
oldest just turned 15 - he has gotten up with me at 330a nearly everyday to lift since he turned 12 - he knows the drill - he’s not up I leave his rear (for that think I may force him)
after work, I’m either at the baseball facility or field with him and/or his younger brother working on their craft - some nights we get in late
so all that to say - I’m tired enough as it is and don’t need or want anything that slows me down or makes me feel more worn down
plus I like being “present” when I’m with my friends and family
another reason- I’ve seen what drugs and alcohol abuse can do to people you thought were bullet proof
another another reason- it makes it much easier to walk away from the emotional toll that MSU places on you
As for me…
more and more people it seems are going in this directionI made the decision significantly lower my alcohol consumption last year. No real reason besides I just didn't enjoy it that much anymore. I'll still have a beer here and there when I'm out. Think 1-2 a month. Occasionally a finger or two of bourbon once in a blue moon.
Now I will take an edible once or twice a week. I live in a legal state.