Is it safe to say that PSU is the worst 4-0 team in the nation?

marshall23

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4. AND. 0. o_O . I may be wrong, but that sure looks undefeated to me. If that is correct, are we the worst undefeated team in the nation? Are we in FREE. FALL. o_O ?
Franklin letting the entire CAC down. It's as if he's saying he doesn't need them.
 

Bison13

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Well, here are the other undefeated teams thus far - who would we be favored against?:

  1. Clemson Tigers
  2. Alabama Crimson Tide
  3. UCLA Bruins
  4. USC Trojans
  5. Kansas Jayhawks
  6. Michigan Wolverines
  7. Ohio State Buckeyes
  8. Kentucky Wildcats
  9. Oklahoma State Cowboys
  10. TCU Horned Frogs
  11. Syracuse Orange
  12. NC State Wolfpack
  13. Minnesota Golden Gophers
  14. Washington Huskies
  15. Georgia Bulldogs
  16. James Madison Dukes
  17. Ole Miss Rebels
  18. Coastal Carolina Chanticleers
  19. Tennessee Volunteers
  20. Florida State Seminoles
At least six we will be more than a touchdown favorite Another three or four a field goal.
 

Grant Green

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I don’t think we’re favored over as many teams as you think.
I am pretty confident that I'm correct with a +/- 2 team margin of error if we are talking about only undefeated teams.

Past losses vs Arkansas and Kentucky have zero to do with current power ratings that are used to determine point spreads.

Don't believe me? Here are some links to a few widely available power ratings for the purpose of establishing point spreads. I'll throw in SP+ as well, which has been very good in the past, but take it with a grain of salt since it is almost entirely data driven.

https://www.vsin.com/all-access/team-power-rankings/ncaafb/
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/2022-college-football-betting-power-ratings
 

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I am pretty confident that I'm correct with a +/- 2 team margin of error if we are talking about only undefeated teams.

Past losses vs Arkansas and Kentucky have zero to do with current power ratings that are used to determine point spreads.

Don't believe me? Here are some links to a few widely available power ratings for the purpose of establishing point spreads. I'll throw in SP+ as well, which has been very good in the past, but take it with a grain of salt since it is almost entirely data driven.

https://www.vsin.com/all-access/team-power-rankings/ncaafb/
https://www.actionnetwork.com/ncaaf/2022-college-football-betting-power-ratings

Ah - yeah, I was more thinking ‘what is the realistic chance that we win’ - not necessarily Vegas odds. Past performance is a factor for me because we have the same coaching staff.
 

Grant Green

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Ah - yeah, I was more thinking ‘what is the realistic chance that we win’ - not necessarily Vegas odds. Past performance is a factor for me because we have the same coaching staff.
Keep in mind that you are biased and the sports betting market (i.e. Vegas) is generally not. It's why I shy away from betting on/against my teams unless I have some good info that I think the market is missing (not often).
Coaching staffs are factored into the power ratings.
 

Nitt1300

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Wait until we beat Michigan; you’ll soon hear that it was an overrated Michigan team, a team that was not worthy of their top 5 ranking. You just can't win sometimes, I thought everyone knew that.
we can't win ever