Is it time?
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Beamer will be here until his record is worse than Muschamps. Oh wait………
The disappointing thing is that the team doesn't look to be any better than it was when Beamer arrived. Most coaches have a big year 2 bump and things continue getting better in year 3. Honestly, the wins over UT and clemson last year were mostly due to both teams taking us very lightly more than our suddenly having the light come on.
The problem is; if you do fire Beamer, who do you get to replace him? What quality coach is going to take a job where the last coach was fired after 3 seasons?
The problem is; if you do fire Beamer, who do you get to replace him? What quality coach is going to take a job where the last coach was fired after 3 seasons?
Won't matter, if Tanner stays, beamer stays, well unless he has back to back 4-win seasons
He won't be fired after this season. Look at the Muschamp era for your road map. Not saying he will get fired in mid-season Year 5. Just saying he will be given as much of a chance as Muschamp. He did over achieve in his first 2 seasons (won't this year). Ironically, didn't we offer Napier before Beamer but, would not meet his demands? IF this season thus far is indicative of the bottom falling out with Beamer, I HOPE, if the time comes, that the hiring authorities gat their act together and go after someone with successful Head Coaching experience. That does not always work. But, more often than not it does. Our best Head Coaches were those who had successful FBS Head Coaching experience. (And before someone rips Tanner, I believe that the call for Beamer was made at the BOT level. Former players lobbied the BOT for Beamer).
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We have to hold onto recruits to have a chance to advance this program. Games like today won't help that's for sure. This was a very disappointing loss. I won't say embarrassing but it was close. Beamer has a lot of work to do to right this ship.
What will really change in 3 more years? USC isn't going to start attracting top 5 recruiting classes.
What will "getting the job done" look like? Will it be 8 or 9 win seasons, winning the SEC, making the playoff? Now that divisions are going away and two more traditional football powers are coming in the SEC, our path to a championship or the playoff is going to be much more difficult.
The key will be to hold on to the top recruits. With NIL, unless a kid just loves the campus or the coach or has dreamed of playing at Carolina his whole life, it can be easy for another team to turn his head and the other schools will be going after the top recruits.
After giving Beamer a big raise and extending his contract, I am not sure we can afford to buy him out after buying out Muschamp. It would take alumni with deep pockets. That's not me. I have little boy pockets LOL. We are stuck.
Nah.
Beamer is a good fit but bleeding upper class talent (and promising freshman) to other programs through the portal and NIL needs to be addressed stat and that is not a Beamer problem.
Beamer is a good fit but bleeding upper class talent (and promising freshman) to other programs through the portal and NIL needs to be addressed stat and that is not a Beamer problem.
Absolutely, Beamer is No Way the future of our Gamecock FB team. Nice guy, not a killer coach by any stretch!! Do it now!! Imagine how bad it will be next year without Rattler. He will continue to under recruit with GA and Clemson nearby, and we will also continue to get kicked around by the Tigers up the road.
I see you didn’t attack others with the same opinion, must be the 2 post count. Pretty shallow man, it’s ok though.
I agree. But if it doesn't translate to wins, it's irrelevant. He won't be on the hot seat next season, but it'll get warm
Beamer better be ready to make some tough off-season decisions. Bash Dabo all you want. After they got humiliated in the Orange Bowl, he went out and hired Venables, paying him big-time money, and completely changed the trajectory of the program.
There are some staff changes that need to take place and we need to cough up dough to get proven entities. Don't hire any more obscure unknowns b/c they're nice guys.
We just never seem to have the stones to make the big moves.
There are some staff changes that need to take place and we need to cough up dough to get proven entities. Don't hire any more obscure unknowns b/c they're nice guys.
We just never seem to have the stones to make the big moves.
Beamer can win 4 games this year, and he's not going anywhere still.
Not qualifying for a bowl next year would be the earliest he's in question, imho.
Losing to UNC in game one was a good early indicator of how the season would pan out.
Recruiting is the best it has looked in a good while. This team is super young in too many spots. We got beat by the portal. As in we lost more than we got out of it. The schedule has done us no favors. All 4 losses are by teams with a combine 21-2 record. The Muschamp players left and the 2021 class was terrible. So, we have a few good players on both sides of the ball, but not enough. Beamer will have to learn some hard lessons and keep the team together but I think he can do it.
I am pleased with Beamer’s recruiting, but the reality is, we are right about where always have been. Mid-to-low teens to mid 20s
He needs to do better in the portal and can’t lose our best players like last year. I also think he needs to improve the coaching staff. Muschamp wasn’t going to work bc he failed to field good defense and never hired a good OC. I think Beamer is hard headed but I think he also likes to adapt.
Of course not. Look at how patience at Kentucky has paid off for them(I know Mizzou is beating them). They were an afterthought for football - would not have happened had he not stayed and also not run off. Clemson was about to run off Dabo until he beat us. Dabo can`t coach but he`s a great CEO. Administration needs to increase recruiting budget and, whenever the time comes for any assistants to leave, do what Clemson did - tell Beamer to hire whoever he wants and pay whatever it takes. Many others can be cited. Agree with recruiting - it`s going to take that to continue to be strong, patience(so many have so little), and hopefully being able to do well in the portal. Look, I`m hurting tonight too - that was a devastating loss. I`m usually angry after games last night but I`m too sad to be angry. Beamer needs at least 5 yrs. to try and turn this thing around.
I still say he won't be fired this year, no matter how bad it gets. Missing out on a bowl next year (too) might be enough to end him.
But this loss, more than UNC, is when I got that "we've lost momentum" feeling. This is where we turned a bad corner.
Think Blackhawk Down. "We just lost the initiative".
But this loss, more than UNC, is when I got that "we've lost momentum" feeling. This is where we turned a bad corner.
Think Blackhawk Down. "We just lost the initiative".
Fire Beamer? That ridiculous at this point. We are still paying off the last coach. The offensive changes this week paid off big. We are bad on defense, lost a lot of guys but still didn’t think the D would be this bad. I’m on board for changes in the defensive staff but getting rid of Beamer at this point is not a move forward. Beamer hasn’t had enough time yet or the money to upgrade the coaching staff. Stop blaming him for the sins of the program.
This. This right here is the reason your program has never and will never be a winner. Your compromised ad hires a circus act to be the head coach, year 3 is a disaster and your recruiting is ok for a sunbelt team but likely to sink like a stone now. Yet as even the blind can see, daddy's little spastic boy is drowning. He has no idea how to fix things, he doesn't even understand what needs to be fixed but the"let's give him at least 5 years" crowd is oblivious. LOOK at what you are seeing. In two more years that spastic cheerleader will have your program completely destroyed. You better stop the bleeding now.
No its not time.
I do not want to see Ray Tanner make another football hire.
Its not a coincidence that Tennessee fans are felling better about their football program after they brought in a professional AD to replace a legacy former coach non professional AD person and let him make a football hire. (They seem to leave out that advice in their posts).
This is what you have in year 3 ..yes it’s 100% Beamers fault. He hired low level coordinators for cheap.
Were they not watching the same game I was????? What was FL average yards per offensive play????? Offensive !! So when you get the ball with a ten pint lead you pretend like you are behind and go get more points. Conservative play trying not to lose versus playing to win. It is a little spineless.
When the other team knows we don’t have the balls to be aggressive and that we are going to run it is just stupid 3 yard loss. Might as well start kneeling with 5:40 left to play. Ugh this team. And the defense is so lost. How are we going to rebuild without any new stud blood. We need 4 Peter woods. Kids that can play dline year one
I think you have too. 3 or 4 more years and Beamer breaks this thing open
We’re not really that young. Wanna see a young team? We lost to them yesterday at home, and they currently have a top 5 recruiting class lining up. We have the worst AD in the league, if not the country, who hired a guy for on the job training in the SEC. Someway, somehow he pulled 2 wins last year out of his *** and Tanner fell over himself throwing money at him despite seeing likely NFL talent leave via the portal.