It was embarrassing. We can't sugar coat it. We blew a 10-point lead with like 4 and 1/2 minutes left because we couldn't get a single first down
Is it time?
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Or the other version, the defense couldn't stop FL on 4th and long, several times! Offense put enough points on the board to win - defensive failure!
Orange Dog, I’m talking basic economics. We need money in our pockets to go get a top notch coach. These men are not stupid , they know their value. We don’t have that kind of money. Yes, we could start over and would be right back here. We should have gotten better coaches instead of hiring Muschamp and Beamer. To me, the best way forward, no more raises for a head coach too early, unless he’s got you playing for a conference title. Build up cash and aim higher. Don’t make the same mistake over and over, that’s called insanity. Our first course of action has to be dealing with Tanner. I loved what he did for the baseball program, but we need a CEO, not an old coach.
Agreed. I think both are true. Although we scored 39 points, which should be good enough to win any game
You missed the most important point he made, we need to hire a real AD... an executive professional type, not an ex baseball coach from within.
Let's face one basic uncomfortable fact:
Georgia is not going anywhere any time soon. Kirby Smart has built a monster that is going to dominate the SEC East for a very long time.
We do not have anywhere near the money to compete against UGA.
I think our best expectation is bowl eligibility from here on out.
Georgia is not going anywhere any time soon. Kirby Smart has built a monster that is going to dominate the SEC East for a very long time.
We do not have anywhere near the money to compete against UGA.
I think our best expectation is bowl eligibility from here on out.
Great post. With the economics of today's CFB, it is just going to get more difficult and the divide between the "haves" and "Have nots" is only going to grow. I one thousand percent agree with you regarding the AD position. We went through two decades of one inept AD after another until our governor got the right university president, chancellor and BOT in place. Then they hired a great AD, all got on the same page and we are finally exiting our nuclear winter. The danger I see you guys in is that Beamer and company are not successful but you all stick with him another couple of years. Based on the staff's accomplishments up to now, you all will be in a much worse position in a couple more years, making attracting a solid HBC even more difficult. While, due to past bad hires you can't afford to fire Beamer, can you honestly afford not to?
No need to run Beamer off. Not sure if he told Satt to look elsewhere or if Rhule just took him, but Loggains is a far better OC than Satt was (not that it would take a lot).
I thought White was good year 1. His defense has regressed every year. I get they lost some quality folks, so you’d expect a little drop off. However we have a really bad combination of not being able to create pressure nor cover. Three years in and tackling has regressed significantly from year 1. I think if Beamer is committed to getting better, White is gone at the end of the year. Like someone else said, trash Dabo all you want, but I’d bet he’d let White go.
I thought White was good year 1. His defense has regressed every year. I get they lost some quality folks, so you’d expect a little drop off. However we have a really bad combination of not being able to create pressure nor cover. Three years in and tackling has regressed significantly from year 1. I think if Beamer is committed to getting better, White is gone at the end of the year. Like someone else said, trash Dabo all you want, but I’d bet he’d let White go.
My two cents. What attracts recruits to us? Football history? The city? The stadium? Our record against Clemson? The fans? Previous coaches? The future? Record against regional rivals? The Mascot? Being called The Cocks? Bowl history (no wins until 1995)? Academics? Presidential history. Recruiting success? Perception of the school? What, for you, as a recruit, would be the most important? Let's call it a Report Card. Any thoughts out there? To me, honestly, the future looks very bleak, as it has always been. Pay an outrageous amount of $$$$$s to get the Best Coach in the country. In the long run, it will be cheaper and guarantee wins. Everything else we've tried has been a bust!! Reality strikes us Gamecocks!!
A lot of you all need to slow your roll. its going to take time, we are in the SEC. Beamer can get it done but give the man time. And no, that does not mean i am or we are settling for mediocrity. it is just the reality of our situation. Either get off the wagon or get behind the program.. It took Spurrier some years (and yes i know he is a legend). SO it will take Beamer more time than Spurrier. And to all you arm chair QBs and trolls, we realize you all have all the answers. Get into the coaching profession, we really could use your insight and solutions.
He replaced the OC and the O is better. Recruiting is still going strong. Truthfully nobody knows. I just try to pay attention to how he addresses issues at this point, rather than W/Ls before year 4. He took over a program riddled with issues. Overall he’s done a nice job addressing them. If he keeps that up the wins will follow.
Honestly it’s a lot like that Kirby halftime speech against us this year. Don’t be results oriented. Be process oriented. Focus on small individual wins. I still feel like he’s on track there. But he has to solve the D problem.
You are hung up on this money deal for no reason. We didn’t hire Beamer bc we’re broke, or couldn’t afford better, or still paying Muschamp (we’re not by the way). We hired him bc that’s who RT wanted who was also interested in us.
I agree on individual wins - I don't see our guys playing like they want to beat the man across from them.
And that's how you win ball games - a group of individuals playing as a team to win their own individual battle.
I don't see it on the OLine or in the back seven on defense in particular!
We didn't score over 60 on tennessee because they took us lightly. You're looking for a reason to not appreciate how well we played
I hope you right. I’m just worried 3 yrs from now we will be saying the same things just like with Muschamp
UF is close to where we were last year. They play young guys but it’s mixed with a handful of veteran leftovers who play hard.
Beamer fixed the OC issue. He was always going to be a coach who needed great coaches around him. Right now, that’s lacking on defense.
I guess I can't live off of two big wins that ultimately didn't mean anything for as long as some people can. Tennessee had a horrid defense last season. Yes, we played well on offense in that game but it wasn't like we were facing a steel curtain defense either.
Sadly, Beamer is pretty much Dabo without Dabo's talent and a tougher schedule. He is an emotional cheerleader front man type of coach who has to have top level coaches around him to win at any level considered "successful". Unfortunately, Carolina is not a program that top level coordinators see as a great stepping stone in their careers. We don't have the tradition, the talent, the recruiting draw, the facilities or the deep pockets to lure top assistants to Columbia.
The same handicaps apply to hiring a head coach. The Carolina job is not a coveted job by established head coaches in any way. It is similar to the Mississippi State job. The best option would be to hire a young G5 coach who is up and coming and let him use Carolina as a stepping stone to one of the "big" program jobs. Chadwell could have been that coach in my opinion.
I was nervous about Beamer, but I think he understands how to be successful. I think any coach here is going to have to weather early storms in order to gain stability. Beamer did that in year 1-2. Even the media knows not to count him out. I think Beamer can get the right staff together but similar to Spurrier, it might take a few years. Hopefully we can be good enough in the meantime to keep hope. Bc hope is the lifeblood.
