Is Penn State the third best football team in the country?

blion72

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I think most would say Georgia, Oregon, OsU, and Texas are better. That still puts PSU at #5. That said, every team in the top 10 has shown weaknesses so far. Alabama and Tennessee were not that impressive. Oregon was shaky early on and are living off the 1 OSU win. Even Georgia was blitzed early by Alabama a few weeks ago. Miami and Iowa St are barely escaping in many games and over ranked IMO.

I think this really is the year where “everyone is beatable on any given weekend” is true.
absolutely any given weekend. teams are very different week to week. our run game now is quite different with Nick at well below 100%. as teams know this, they can key differently. the teams that are older with many SR+ players they also can be quite different to deal with. when the COVID year players disappear after 2025 we will see some differences.
 
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A Georgia team that lost to a mediocre Bama team and should have lost to a bad Kentucky team….then a Texas team who got mauled by that same Georgia team. Maybe, just maybe, the SEC isn’t all that good this year.
Alabama is much, much better than "mediocre" (just as Kentycky is a lot better than "bad").
 

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Alabama is much, much better than "mediocre" (just as Kentycky is a lot better than "bad").
Did you watch the Kentucky game last night? Or any of their games? They’re bad. And Bama is only better than mediocre based on their past.
 

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Did you watch the Kentucky game last night? Or any of their games? They’re bad. And Bama is only better than mediocre based on their past.
Well, if "mediocre" teams knock off Wisconsin in Madison by 32, are you expecting us to win it by 50? Alabama has played two top 10 teams, beat the #2 team in the country, and would be favored over all but about 5 teams in the country on a neutral field tomorrow. They are so far beyond "mediocre" that no one that can look at things objectively would ever have that take.

Kentucky would be a good one to peg as "mediocre"...they'd be favored by all but about 40 teams in the country, so a middle of the pack "Power 5" team.
 
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No. But, we are the 2nd best team.
I think it's rather rich that Alabama beat then no. 1 Georgia, then loses twice, and is now ranked 15th, while Georgia beats no. 1 Texas and shoots up to no. 2 (Bama shot up to 1 after beating Georgia). Why not put Georgia at 1 again and tell the Ducks to suck it?

In a way, I am glad that college football is becoming more like the NFL - maybe we can get to the point where we don't need no steenkin' polls!

In another way, I hope this obvious snub against the Nittany Lions is treated by the team as it should be - and gets the team fired up to prove themselves.
 

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Well, if "mediocre" teams knock off Wisconsin in Madison by 32, are you expecting us to win it by 50? Alabama has played two top 10 teams, beat the #2 team in the country, and would be favored over all but about 5 teams in the country on a neutral field tomorrow. They are so far beyond "mediocre" that no one that can look at things objectively would ever have that take.

Kentucky would be a good one to peg as "mediocre"...they'd be favored by all but about 40 teams in the country, so a middle of the pack "Power 5" team.
They also lost to Vandy.
 

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I think it's rather rich that Alabama beat then no. 1 Georgia, then loses twice, and is now ranked 15th, while Georgia beats no. 1 Texas and shoots up to no. 2 (Bama shot up to 1 after beating Georgia). Why not put Georgia at 1 again and tell the Ducks to suck it?

In a way, I am glad that college football is becoming more like the NFL - maybe we can get to the point where we don't need no steenkin' polls!

In another way, I hope this obvious snub against the Nittany Lions is treated by the team as it should be - and gets the team fired up to prove themselves.
Excellent.
 
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This year is wide open. Oregon is beatable. They caught OSU at their home field. At OSU, different result? Probably. Georgia is beatable. Their QB is meh.
 

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This year is wide open. Oregon is beatable. They caught OSU at their home field. At OSU, different result? Probably. Georgia is beatable. Their QB is meh.
I was not at all impressed with Beck. He was better than Ewers but Ewers was being overwhelmed, not a fair comparison.
 

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We have no idea if we are the third best team, the 25th or the 1st. We have zero idea but we shall find out.

What I will say about this team, is that we are the most well rounded team we have had in awhile. We aren't great anywhere, except maybe TE, but we are very high level everywhere. O-Line, QB play, Running Backs, D-line, secondary. We are very good all over. My only questions are WR and LB. But even there, why does it matter if we don't have a go to WR if we have the best TE in the country. Any team can slip at any time, but, I have to say, this team gives me a lot of confidence.
 

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I can’t find the link, but i was passing time yesterday. I clicked on an ESPN link and it was ratings from about 6 or 7 college football writers. I didn’t recognizer the names either.

Anyway, one person did not have PSU in their top ten.
A couple or three had MIami as #2 or 3
PSU was usually 6-7 in the eyes of this pane

(this was all before yesterdays games)

I thought it was “interesting” how little respect PSU received.

Frankly, I’d rather PSU be ranked about 7th or 8th right now. :)

As said above, Just Win and everything will take care of itself
 

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I can’t find the link, but i was passing time yesterday. I clicked on an ESPN link and it was ratings from about 6 or 7 college football writers. I didn’t recognizer the names either.

Anyway, one person did not have PSU in their top ten.
A couple or three had MIami as #2 or 3
PSU was usually 6-7 in the eyes of this pane

(this was all before yesterdays games)

I thought it was “interesting” how little respect PSU received.

Frankly, I’d rather PSU be ranked about 7th or 8th right now. :)

As said above, Just Win and everything will take care of itself
I'm sure that those were projected playoff rankings that you were seeing. You were likely reading this...

 
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I prefer the talking be done on the field. Fortunately, there's a playoff now that renders all these dumb polls moot.
The polls are not completely moot. They will be used to determine the at large playoff participants.
As an example, Notre Dame cares what the polls say.
 
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The polls are not completely moot. They will be used to determine the at large playoff participants.
As an example, Notre Dame cares what the polls say.
The Selection Committee determines that, not the traditional polls. We'll start hearing from them in 2 more weeks.
 

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The Selection Committee determines that, not the traditional polls. We'll start hearing from them in 2 more weeks.
I'll be suprised if the polls put ND at 12 or lower and the selection committee puts them at 13 or higher.
I think the committee uses the polls a lot. (Even if they deny it)
 
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Yep, that was it
Keep in mind that Conference Champs are locked into the top 4...so if someone has Oregon winning the Big Ten, the highest we can be is 5th. And then the winners of the Big 12 and ACC should slot into 3/4, hence why you're seeing Miami 3rd everywhere.
 
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My sole purpose in leaping from bed each morning is to confound my enemies.

You must be very busy.

o_O
IIRC, Bob & Barry's biggest enemy was 21 Guns, don't remember if Marshall was also included. There were a few more, can't recall their handles, maybe LaJohlla.
I believe 21 Guns finally had it, when Bob started referring to him as "21 Gums"; sent him directly to the insane asylum, without pass GO.
 
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IIRC, Bob & Barry's biggest enemy was 21 Guns, don't remember if Marshall was also included. There were a few more, can't recall their handles, maybe LaJohlla.
I believe 21 Guns finally had it, when Bob started referring to him as "21 Gums"; sent him directly to the insane asylum, without pass GO.
He reappeared several times after that unfortunately. I haven't been over to the old board in a long time, but I'd guess he's likely posting there under yet another name.

Just cross your fingers that your encounters with him on are Message Boards...running across him in the Champs parking lot is my biggest fear in life.
 

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I can’t find the link, but i was passing time yesterday. I clicked on an ESPN link and it was ratings from about 6 or 7 college football writers. I didn’t recognizer the names either.

Anyway, one person did not have PSU in their top ten.
A couple or three had MIami as #2 or 3
PSU was usually 6-7 in the eyes of this pane

(this was all before yesterdays games)

I thought it was “interesting” how little respect PSU received.

Frankly, I’d rather PSU be ranked about 7th or 8th right now. :)

As said above, Just Win and everything will take care of itself
This week in 1986 we were 6th....just keep winning
 
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The OSU game will define the rating for PSU. Win a playoff spot is obtained.
 

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I feel there are at least 4 maybe 5 that are better. Illinois the signature win? USC and WVU fading fast.
Many team fan bases in the top 25 are likely saying, "...our guys are better than Penn State"
No
 

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IIRC, Bob & Barry's biggest enemy was 21 Guns, don't remember if Marshall was also included. There were a few more, can't recall their handles, maybe LaJohlla.
I believe 21 Guns finally had it, when Bob started referring to him as "21 Gums"; sent him directly to the insane asylum, without pass GO.

I like Marshall. gums, not so much. Of course, I hate myself most of all.
 
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In the big scheme of things, We are no. 6. Fair? I think so. Which is pretty much where Franklin’s best teams end up (6-10). I’m talking big picture - recruiting and odds of beating all other teams. I think 6th is about right.
 

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IIRC, Bob & Barry's biggest enemy was 21 Guns, don't remember if Marshall was also included. There were a few more, can't recall their handles, maybe LaJohlla.
I believe 21 Guns finally had it, when Bob started referring to him as "21 Gums"; sent him directly to the insane asylum, without pass GO.
He's in a straight jacket somewhere.
 

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that guy was the old WestBranchWarrior....which might be from way back in Audibles board or PSU Playbook

pretty certain the same as 21Guns and....shoot what was the other name?
 
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that guy was the old WestBranchWarrior....which might be from way back in Audibles board or PSU Playbook

pretty certain the same as 21Guns and....shoot what was the other name?
He was WestBranchWarrior on the 247 boards back in the day. Here was my analysis from Rivals...looks like he's also come back as "Psubiomed" more recently (no idea if that ID is still posting), but it's definitely him.

 
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He was WestBranchWarrior on the 247 boards back in the day. Here was my analysis from Rivals...looks like he's also come back as "Psubiomed" more recently (no idea if that ID is still posting), but it's definitely him.

WestBranchWarrior wanted to fight me one time over something which I have forgotten but which was super minor.....claimed he was an mma fighter :ROFLMAO:

MilesKauffman! that was the other name I was trying to remember!

also I see that I have Psugo823 blocked on there so I must have figured that one out as well lmao
 

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I can’t find the link, but i was passing time yesterday. I clicked on an ESPN link and it was ratings from about 6 or 7 college football writers. I didn’t recognizer the names either.

Anyway, one person did not have PSU in their top ten.
A couple or three had MIami as #2 or 3
PSU was usually 6-7 in the eyes of this pane

(this was all before yesterdays games)

I thought it was “interesting” how little respect PSU received.

Frankly, I’d rather PSU be ranked about 7th or 8th right now. :)

As said above, Just Win and everything will take care of itself
just win = has to be the motto.

also, IF you are going to take a loss it needs to be OSU in a tough game. we cannot have a brain fart against one of the teams we are supposed to hammer. WVU and USC continuing to lose is not helping us. We don't want to be one of the 2 loss teams fighting for the 7 open spots.
 
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Any thoughts on why the betting line vs Wisconsin dropped from 10 to 6?
 

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This year is a total wide open crapshoot. If this were the the BCS era, think 2007 crazy. That’s how this year has been.

Look I have no idea whether or not PSU is truly 3rd best. Honestly, I lean towards “no.” But before you shoot me understand if we somehow win the next 2 games, hell put us at #1. If we split, we’ll drop to bottom of top 10. Lose both and our season is just about shot. Let’s see how things play out.
 
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