Is this the beginning of the end?

[TheBigUglies]

Came across this on twitter and I know its only a sound bite but when you let others get to you, to me it clearly seems you are losing focus and passion for being where you are. I hope I am wrong.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Franklin clearly had a rough afternoon in Ann Arbor...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://t.co/3gbiWkcRxU">pic.twitter.com/3gbiWkcRxU</a></p>&mdash; The Winged Helmet (@TWH_Chris) <a href="https://twitter.com/TWH_Chris/status/1582128036815962112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[CvilleElksCoach]

I don't think your post came through as you intended

 

[SLion_on3]

I don't think your post came through as you intended

It was mentioned in press conference that UM tunnel is a problem. This is the event. Not sure who CJF was f-bombing.

 

[Ram20]

Franklin's little emotional outbursts are unbecoming(think back to the "elite" speech as well as the incident with a fan), but I don't blame him for this one. Its seems pretty obvious all the players from both teams are stuck in the tunnel trying to get to their respective locker-rooms, which to Franklin's point is total idiocy, and opposing coaches on Michigans team were telling PSU kids to get in their locker-room. Franklin took umbrage to another coach instructing his players and I agree with Franklin.

 

[PSUAVLNC]

This makes me like him a little. Wish he had more of that intensity when preparing the team for a big game or coaching up the players.

 

[ODShowtime]

One thing michigan is world class at is being terrible winners. Over the many years that their team and their refs have embarrassed us I've learned the best thing when they start up is to just run away.

Just run.

You're already a loser. No need to get posterized about it.

 

[SLion_on3]

One thing michigan is world class at is being terrible winners. Over the many years that their team and their refs have embarrassed us I've learned the best thing when they start up is to just run away.

Just run.

You're already a loser. No need to get posterized about it.

It is so true. UM fans are the worst winners and IA fans are the sorest losers in BT. They are the two worst fan bases in BT by far.

 

[Paruffus]

One thing michigan is world class at is being terrible winners. Over the many years that their team and their refs have embarrassed us I've learned the best thing when they start up is to just run away.

Just run.

You're already a loser. No need to get posterized about it.

Nailed it! It's this attitude (fans also) that makes MI my second-most disliked team. BTW, Gator fans possess this same assitude. Err...attitude. Note: The Gators are not my most disliked team.

 

[ODShowtime]

Nailed it! It's this attitude (fans also) that makes MI my second-most disliked team. BTW, Gator fans possess this same assitude. Err...attitude. Note: The Gators are not my most disliked team.

Yep, that's why I had a total temper tantrum when the Gators beat us right in my neighborhood. I had to go to work after that, surrounded by them. They've quieted down a bit these days hehe.

 

[SLion_on3]

Franklin's little emotional outbursts are unbecoming(think back to the "elite" speech as well as the incident with a fan), but I don't blame him for this one. Its seems pretty obvious all the players from both teams are stuck in the tunnel trying to get to their respective locker-rooms, which to Franklin's point is total idiocy, and opposing coaches on Michigans team were telling PSU kids to get in their locker-room. Franklin took umbrage to another coach instructing his players and I agree with Franklin.

Franklin had his team, staff and fans treated like a little b&tch, Two years ago, UM was on the ropes with Harbaugh, nearly fired. He vowed to turn it around and he did. We got the same story from Franklin in 2020 and now with all the coaching changes, high level recruits and promises, we are looking up at two programs instead of one. Hard to feel sympathy for James but feel bad for players who bought into his weak game style

 

[Paruffus]

Yep, that's why I had a total temper tantrum when the Gators beat us right in my neighborhood. I had to go to work after that, surrounded by them. They've quieted down a bit these days hehe.

 

[Paruffus]

Yep, that's why I had a total temper tantrum when the Gators beat us right in my neighborhood. I had to go to work after that, surrounded by them. They've quieted down a bit these days hehe.

Some years ago I saw them play MI in the Citrus Bowl where they got their asses whupped in every phase of the game. Next day a long-time Gator fan told me the Gators were a far better team than Michigan but they came into the game with too much hubris. I said, "If the word 'hubris' means 'short on talent' you got that one right." Pi$$ed him off big time.

 

[Paruffus]

Franklin had his team, staff and fans treated like a little b&tch, Two years ago, UM was on the ropes with Harbaugh, nearly fired. He vowed to turn it around and he did. We got the same story from Franklin in 2020 and now with all the coaching changes, high level recruits and promises, we are looking up at two programs instead of one. Hard to feel sympathy for James but feel bad for players who bought into his weak game style

For all the right (and obvious) reasons ya gotta ignore the 2020 and 2021 seasons.

 

[PSUJam]

One thing michigan is world class at is being terrible winners. Over the many years that their team and their refs have embarrassed us I've learned the best thing when they start up is to just run away.

Just run.

You're already a loser. No need to get posterized about it.

There was a scrum in the tunnel at the half, and I'm almost certain this was part of it. I'm not sure this was after the game.

 

[SLion_on3]

For all the right (and obvious) reasons ya gotta ignore the 2020 and 2021 seasons.

2020..sure but 2021 was debacle. 2022 which should have been a year we challenged for BT but now that is toast. We keep pushing yard markers for CJF. 2023 or 2024 now? 2022 only becomes salvageable if we win out, and somehow MSU beats UM and we beat OSU. It ain't happening..do you hear me again football gods? It ain't happening

 

[ApexLion]

The end, my only friend, the end.

 

[ODShowtime]

There was a scrum in the tunnel at the half, and I'm almost certain this was part of it. I'm not sure this was after the game.

Yeah it looks like poor CJF could not run at that time. Shocker that decrepit stadium is designed to facilitate their poor sportsmanship. Also a shocker that they run their mouths halfway through the game.

 

[Ram20]

Franklin had his team, staff and fans treated like a little b&tch, Two years ago, UM was on the ropes with Harbaugh, nearly fired. He vowed to turn it around and he did. We got the same story from Franklin in 2020 and now with all the coaching changes, high level recruits and promises, we are looking up at two programs instead of one. Hard to feel sympathy for James but feel bad for players who bought into his weak game style

Oh, I don't mean to defend Franklin overall, I am as ticked off at him as anyone currently. I also think he has more than a few immature outbursts and I have questioned his leadership often. I am just saying, in this particular case, I don't have a problem with him saying "Don't talk to my players, I will handle them" to an opposing coach.

 

[Meat Lab]

Came across this on twitter and I know its only a sound bite but when you let others get to you, to me it clearly seems you are losing focus and passion for being where you are. I hope I am wrong.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Franklin clearly had a rough afternoon in Ann Arbor...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://t.co/3gbiWkcRxU">pic.twitter.com/3gbiWkcRxU</a></p>&mdash; The Winged Helmet (@TWH_Chris) <a href="https://twitter.com/TWH_Chris/status/1582128036815962112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Came across this on twitter and I know its only a sound bite but when you let others get to you, to me it clearly seems you are losing focus and passion for being where you are. I hope I am wrong.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">James Franklin clearly had a rough afternoon in Ann Arbor...<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/GoBlue?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#GoBlue</a> <a href="https://t.co/3gbiWkcRxU">pic.twitter.com/3gbiWkcRxU</a></p>&mdash; The Winged Helmet (@TWH_Chris) <a href="https://twitter.com/TWH_Chris/status/1582128036815962112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 17, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 

[Bvillebaron]

Franklin's little emotional outbursts are unbecoming(think back to the "elite" speech as well as the incident with a fan), but I don't blame him for this one. Its seems pretty obvious all the players from both teams are stuck in the tunnel trying to get to their respective locker-rooms, which to Franklin's point is total idiocy, and opposing coaches on Michigans team were telling PSU kids to get in their locker-room. Franklin took umbrage to another coach instructing his players and I agree with Franklin.

So do I.

 

[LB99]

2020..sure but 2021 was debacle. 2022 which should have been a year we challenged for BT but now that is toast. We keep pushing yard markers for CJF. 2023 or 2024 now? 2022 only becomes salvageable if we win out, and somehow MSU beats UM and we beat OSU. It ain't happening..do you hear me again football gods? It ain't happening

You had PSU contending for a B1G title this year? You are pretty optimistic. Most had PSU 8-4 or at best 9-3. Many speculated potential losses at Purdue and Auburn. I’m usually pretty optimistic, but the schedule and inexperience/lack of depth at certain positions certainly didn’t have me looking at a potential B1G title run.

 

[razpsu]

was this at half time or after the game. I would imagine half time since michigan was probABLY celebrating on the field. If it was halftime what were they trash talking for when it was 16-14.

 

[BW Lion]

For all the right (and obvious) reasons ya gotta ignore the 2020 and 2021 seasons.

Partially excuse? Perhaps. Ignore? No.

 

[SLion_on3]

You had PSU contending for a B1G title this year? You are pretty optimistic. Most had PSU 8-4 or at best 9-3. Many speculated potential losses at Purdue and Auburn. I’m usually pretty optimistic, but the schedule and inexperience/lack of depth at certain positions certainly didn’t have me looking at a potential B1G title run.

At some point, you have to overproduce rather than underproduce. What was Michigan expectation in 2021? Well they exceeded it with BT title, right into the CFP. Someone needs to explain why we can't exceed expectations every 4 years?

 

[LB99]

At some point, you have to overproduce rather than underproduce. What was Michigan expectation in 2021? Well they exceeded it with BT title, right into the CFP. Someone needs to explain why we can't exceed expectations every 4 years?

Again, why did anyone think a team that was projected at around 8 wins prior to the season have hopes that they would contend for a B1G title? Perhaps that was a bit unrealistic? If someone told you at the beginning of the season that after 6 games this year they would be 5-1, would you have been surprised or satisfied with that? I understand that the way they lost was disheartening, but if you are just considering wins and losses, I would say they are probably overproducing a bit to this point in the season, no? Now, if they totally collapse from here on the rest of the season then that is a whole different story. As I said before, this weeks game will tell us more about this team than probably any of the games prior. Let’s see how this team responds to getting punched in the mouth.

 

[SLion_on3]

Again, why did anyone think a team that was projected at around 8 wins prior to the season have hopes that they would contend for a B1G title? Perhaps that was a bit unrealistic? If someone told you at the beginning of the season that after 6 games this year they would be 5-1, would you have been surprised or satisfied with that? I understand that the way they lost was disheartening, but if you are just considering wins and losses, I would say they are probably overproducing a bit to this point in the season, no? Now, if they totally collapse from here on the rest of the season then that is a whole different story. As I said before, this weeks game will tell us more about this team than probably any of the games prior. Let’s see how this team responds to getting punched in the mouth.

No, we are not over-producing. Purdue was a tough start but our secondary matched up well (as we should expect given talent disparity). Auburn really struggled at QB and OL against San Jose St, even trailing at half. The three other games should have be easy wins with talent mis-match but still struggled running ball. Nothing has been fixed from 2021. We may not collapse like 2021 because back-up QB can actually throw ball. It is not good enough to lose to lN, NEB, IA, IL, MN, MSU over last few years. OSU basically every year and now UM twice in row. If Tanner Morgan does not play then we learn less about team. You can't fixed what happened on Saturday. It was a coach with ill-prepared team for 'big boy' football. It is inherent with CJF.

 

[wbcbus]

Again, why did anyone think a team that was projected at around 8 wins prior to the season have hopes that they would contend for a B1G title? Perhaps that was a bit unrealistic? If someone told you at the beginning of the season that after 6 games this year they would be 5-1, would you have been surprised or satisfied with that? I understand that the way they lost was disheartening, but if you are just considering wins and losses, I would say they are probably overproducing a bit to this point in the season, no? Now, if they totally collapse from here on the rest of the season then that is a whole different story. As I said before, this weeks game will tell us more about this team than probably any of the games prior. Let’s see how this team responds to getting punched in the mouth.

Okay, but according to that logic, as long as we set the bar low enough before the season, nobody can ever question the results, because that's all that was expected of them. Why is it acceptable after 2 seasons of 11-11 football that we're still only expecting 8 wins? We can only compete above 8 wins once every 5 years? That's the expectation now?

Last 5 recruiting classes, PSU was 5, 10, 14, 18, 7 (avg 10.8). Michigan was 22, 7, 10, 14, 9 (avg 12.4). Yet we were embarrassed. Why is Michigan's expectation to be undefeated heading into OSU with a playoff on the line, but we're supposed to be okay getting smacked by them because we were only expected to win 8?

 

[PSUFTG]

was this at half time or after the game. I would imagine half time since michigan was probABLY celebrating on the field. If it was halftime what were they trash talking for when it was 16-14.

FWIW: It was half time

 

[LB99]

Okay, but according to that logic, as long as we set the bar low enough before the season, nobody can ever question the results, because that's all that was expected of them. Why is it acceptable after 2 seasons of 11-11 football that we're still only expecting 8 wins? We can only compete above 8 wins once every 5 years? That's the expectation now?

Last 5 recruiting classes, PSU was 5, 10, 14, 18, 7 (avg 10.8). Michigan was 22, 7, 10, 14, 9 (avg 12.4). Yet we were embarrassed. Why is Michigan's expectation to be undefeated heading into OSU with a playoff on the line, but we're supposed to be okay getting smacked by them because we were only expected to win 8?

Your right. They suck. You’ve drug me down into your pessimistic stupor. They should just forfeit the rest of the season. Franklin should be thrown out of PA permanently. We should hire just hire Meyer or Hugh Freeze, or maybe Barry Switzer or anybody with low character so that we can win at all cost to satisfy everyone’s desire. How’s that?

 

[Moogy]

Couldn't all this generalized Franklin-bashing have occurred in any of the other generalized Franklin-bashing threads? Can't you kids keep your focus on specialized Franklin-bashing in the specialized Franklin-bashing threads?

 

[Yogiman71]

One thing michigan is world class at is being terrible winners. Over the many years that their team and their refs have embarrassed us I've learned the best thing when they start up is to just run away.

Just run.

You're already a loser. No need to get posterized about it.

Michigan hubris is at the elite level of OhowIhate. We will be fed it until we beat both of them on a regular basis.

 

[Moogy]

It was mentioned in press conference that UM tunnel is a problem. This is the event. Not sure who CJF was f-bombing.

Good for Franklin. Too bad he couldn't channel that anger into the team to motivate them in the 2nd half. Hopefully it boils up into a butt whooping of Minnesota and then a competitive battle at the Beav against OSU.

Sorry, I forgot where I was ... Franklin suuuuxxxxxx!!! We're wasting sew much $$$$. I knew it all along he was turrible!!!

 

[JVP_Yahweh]

I love that he took up for his guys. Shows his loyalty to the brand. Now he just needs to do that during the game and give the official hell for our guys getting screwed over on all the calls

 

[wbcbus]

Your right. They suck. You’ve drug me down into your pessimistic stupor. They should just forfeit the rest of the season. Franklin should be thrown out of PA permanently. We should hire just hire Meyer or Hugh Freeze, or maybe Barry Switzer or anybody with low character so that we can win at all cost to satisfy everyone’s desire. How’s that?

I asked a genuine question about when is it okay to expect more, and this is what you respond with.

 

[PSUJam]

Okay, but according to that logic, as long as we set the bar low enough before the season, nobody can ever question the results, because that's all that was expected of them.

That's what Joe did in every single press conference. Every one. And it kept everyone quiet because there was no expectations.

 

[NB4PSU]

Again, why did anyone think a team that was projected at around 8 wins prior to the season have hopes that they would contend for a B1G title? Perhaps that was a bit unrealistic? If someone told you at the beginning of the season that after 6 games this year they would be 5-1, would you have been surprised or satisfied with that? I understand that the way they lost was disheartening, but if you are just considering wins and losses, I would say they are probably overproducing a bit to this point in the season, no? Now, if they totally collapse from here on the rest of the season then that is a whole different story. As I said before, this weeks game will tell us more about this team than probably any of the games prior. Let’s see how this team responds to getting punched in the mouth.

Cuz NO ONE knows **** about how it's gonna play out. This was the best schedule for a CFP i've ever seen and the team looked strong out the gate and with 2 weeks prep you had reason to expect they would bring the lumber. Beat UM and the world is ours. Lose with dignity and we're a force to be dealt with. Lose by 1000 and give up a million yards on the ground? Good fing luck.

Instead they brought...ummm... sticks... you know what i mean if you're over 60. I'm not allowed to say it any other way without getting cancelled.

I have rarely been so embarrassed by our team... Saturday was right there with MSU 99. Thankfully we don't have a bye week now or some guys might be doing their best WTF and the portal might be overwhelmed. Worst "coaching" i've seen in years.

 

[psupride1997]

Cuz NO ONE knows **** about how it's gonna play out. This was the best schedule for a CFP i've ever seen and the team looked strong out the gate and with 2 weeks prep you had reason to expect they would bring the lumber. Beat UM and the world is ours. Lose with dignity and we're a force to be dealt with. Lose by 1000 and give up a million yards on the ground? Good fing luck.

Instead they brought...ummm... sticks... you know what i mean if you're over 60. I'm not allowed to say it any other way without getting cancelled.

I have rarely been so embarrassed by our team... Saturday was right there with MSU 99. Thankfully we don't have a bye week now or some guys might be doing their best WTF and the portal might be overwhelmed. Worst "coaching" i've seen in years.

How about you worry less about getting “cancelled“ and more about these right-wing “leaders” spouting hate and anti-semitism on social media, spinning ridiculous QAnon theories, and trying take away the right to vote. One bald, hot dog-looking dude like that is currently running for Governor in this state actually. Sorry you can’t say “retard” anymore, that’s a damn shame, but there are bigger problems right now, Sparky. And a lot of us are so fckng sick of people whining about the woke mob.

 

[NB4PSU]

How about you worry less about getting “cancelled“ and more about these right-wing “leaders” spouting hate and anti-semitism on social media, spinning ridiculous QAnon theories, and trying take away the right to vote. One bald, hot dog-looking dude like that is currently running for Governor in this state actually. Sorry you can’t say “retard” anymore, that’s a damn shame, but there are bigger problems right now, Sparky. And a lot of us are so fckng sick of people whining about the woke mob.

Wait now... a bald hot dog looking dude? You mean the brain dead guy in PA? Seriously now... take a real good look at my profile picture, sport and pay close attention to the footnotes. If all you got from what I had to say (and as someone who has been following this program since BEFORE you were born) was about the "sticks" and cancel culture... then you missed the whole point.... iow, the entire first paragraph (which WAS the point). Imagine my shock. And sweet cheeks, I live in Boynton Beach Florida. ANYTIME you want to meet me face to face and run your mouth just post it up and let me know the time and place... me and my cancel culture will happily deal with your stick pride.

 

[laKavosiey-st lion]

Your right. They suck. You’ve drug me down into your pessimistic stupor. They should just forfeit the rest of the season. Franklin should be thrown out of PA permanently. We should hire just hire Meyer or Hugh Freeze, or maybe Barry Switzer or anybody with low character so that we can win at all cost to satisfy everyone’s desire. How’s that?

Not competing with the big boys EVERY SEASON is not great. Going 7-2 against sister Mary poors doesn’t satisfy

 

[Tom_PSU]

Your right. They suck. You’ve drug me down into your pessimistic stupor. They should just forfeit the rest of the season. Franklin should be thrown out of PA permanently. We should hire just hire Meyer or Hugh Freeze, or maybe Barry Switzer or anybody with low character so that we can win at all cost to satisfy everyone’s desire. How’s that?

Good, we need more of these types of reports of yours on how much we suck. I’m thrilled that you have finally abandoned those negative clowns that actually think we may win another game this season.

Only by admitting that we suck can we begin to un suck. And un sucking is the first step towards mediocrity. Your list of potential replacement coaches is spot on. Since none of them have ever been convicted of being accessories before or after the fact of numerous felonies they condoned they should easily pass a background check. Urban is my preferred choice, because just think of the creativity and thought he would have to apply in conjuring up his next medical crisis before the obligatory toothless NCAA investigation. .