You’re going way out on a limb in assuming that we beat all 7 of the sister Mary poors.
Is this the beginning of the end?
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Absolutely, THIS!!!
We have the resources and the talent on campus to contend for titles, plain and simple. This does not mean we go into AA and win every time, but it sure as hell doesn’t mean we get physically and emotionally (see Franklin) destroyed either. Our program is set up to be a perennial power (at least in the sense that we compete with the upper echelon of our conference). We are not even close to meeting that expectation.
"Would you just stop talking to us!"
I am sorry you know what that sounds like?? WOW...embarrassing and weak.
And if that happened at half time and you didnt use that to create some positive spin to get the fire lit in their asses for the second half EWWW...
I am sorry you know what that sounds like?? WOW...embarrassing and weak.
And if that happened at half time and you didnt use that to create some positive spin to get the fire lit in their asses for the second half EWWW...
“Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning.”
W.C.
W.C.
I agree... with what we are paying Franklin I certainly expect more than 8 win seasons. Yes graduating players and recruiting good kids into the program is part of it, but the other large factor is producing on the field. They want people to give money to the school? People like winners and give money when programs are doing well.
I thought no politics on this board? Or are ravings like this Ok?
This is simply proof that Franklin is 50 years old but going on 25. Much like:
He is what he is. A man-child who is a poor leader.
- he was 42 going on 25 when he took Clay Travis' (another man who is going on 25) bait and made his immature coaches wives' comments.
- he was 45 going on 25 when he couldn't get his team prepared for the Michigan State game in 2017, and then also blamed the loss on his inability to prepare for thunderstorms that were predicted a week ahead of time.
- he was 46 going on 25 when he gave his "elite speech" after his coaching collapse against Ohio State in 2018.
- he was 49 going on 25 when he held the PSU program hostage with all of his flirting with various other programs, eventually wringing an undeserved raise out of Sandy Barbour.
He is what he is. A man-child who is a poor leader.
I sure didn't think it was okay and I said so. I just saw that Tom did NOT delete any of the conflict and I apologize to him for presuming he had. Perhaps we'll just move along. We'll see.
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Funny how so many take a lost football game so personally. Trash the coach.....wish that players would enter the portal....
unrealistically think someone is spending 63 million to send CJF packing and double that to bring in a coach that walks on water. If being a fan hurts so bad.....why bother?
unrealistically think someone is spending 63 million to send CJF packing and double that to bring in a coach that walks on water. If being a fan hurts so bad.....why bother?
Marshall good morning. Its how we lost. Its the lack of adjustments. Adjustments to the point that JF is stupidly stubborn. He sets his players up for failure and makes weak comments about it at post game press conferences. He played some leverage games during the season last year all out of self interest, he makes $8M a year-he talks like he walks on water, his arrogance is what causes fans to be highly disappointed. I could go on but think you got the picture of why fans are highly disgruntled.
You are a very patient man, perhaps it years of experience and wisdom. As a former coach (I believe u were?) not sure how you deal with bone headed decisions from this staff. I hope we Win this weekend--but if we dont and we loose to bone headed mistakes, a Gophers team that adjusts to our weaknesses like Illinois did last year and we dont make in game adjustments-how do you deal with that? Especially when you may have a sound solution to set your players up for success.
In the mean time I see no reason to change, he can stay as far as I can see it....doesn't pay to buy him out---there's only 1 unemployed coach can fix this thing in less than 2 years.
How do I deal with it? It's not my job. I have no control. I know from my very elementary experience as a high school coach that none of the things fans think are simple.......really are. No one works harder than the coaches. 25 years of division 1 experience trumps anything anyone here could suggest.
I've already said this in a different fashion. If PSU had won on Saturday, I would have been so very happy. But, then I would have checked my finances, looked at my birth certificate and also realized that my wife was still deceased.
Being a fan should be IMO an enjoyable experience. Passion doesn't make one a coach. If it's not fun do something else.
You are 100% Correct...Perspective....I do the same check most of the time--dont matter PSU, whoever and whatever out side of who pays me, my family and my health is all that matters...It's when you get caught up in things and loose perspective on what matters...all I know is I am making adjustments during the game--speaking mostly from the defensive POV.
Not all of us. You must have been living under a rock when the Dims and their lackeys in the FBI and DOJ manufacture a bogus Russian Collusion hoax to try to remove Trump from office and undo the results of the 2016 election I guess. There is a true threat to democracy and the rule of law in this country but it sure ain’t the Republican Party.
I'm a wild man during the game. Alone in my family room. After, I remember the morons yelling at me from the peanut gallery and I'm fully adjusted. I never got nervous as a coach, nor made a call out of panic......I was able to settle in and get a rhythm in most games.....a few got away.....but watching with no control is hard. But posting like you know better than a guy who holds one of the top D1 jobs is pure, utter insanity.
Win out? What are you smoking? What team left on our schedule is incapable of beating us? There are multiple losses left.2020..sure but 2021 was debacle. 2022 which should have been a year we challenged for BT but now that is toast. We keep pushing yard markers for CJF. 2023 or 2024 now? 2022 only becomes salvageable if we win out, and somehow MSU beats UM and we beat OSU. It ain't happening..do you hear me again football gods? It ain't happening
If things go poorly early Saturday. It could get ugly and deteriorate into an away game atmosphere.
Critical game to win because two consecutive home losses and three straight overall would be devastating. If we get pushed around early - look out!
Eddie Munster would not show Rutgers any grace. And he would love to rub our noses in the dirt on our home field and will if he can.
What a bunch of horseshit! F off all the way to the testboard. And don't stop to invade the Capitol on the way, moron.
LOL the tunnel has been there for almost 100 years but NOW it is a problem per James Franklin (deflection anyone).
It is not mentioned in this video but PSU players were throwing their Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwiches at Michigan players.
As Franklin said before the game "this is big boy football".
Oh James, nothing like saying you need to recruit better (I know he said bigger but the insinuation is obvious) wonder what the CURRENT PSU players think?
God I hope PSU extends the Franklin contract for an additional 20 years and makes it a lifetime contract.
At least he didn't have to take a pay cut for poor performance like the michigan coach.
Because players graduate and move on and younger, inexperienced players take their place. That's why after a couple of 11-2 seasons, exoect an 8-5. Duh.
NO!! NO!! Not the peanut butter and jelly sandwiches!! Were they mad because the sandwiches didn't have bananas on them?!?
Like when Nick Saben finishes #2 instead of #1, it's the inexperienced players causing a dropoff.
Yeah, if we had a couple 11-2 seasons, I would agree. But we didn't. We went 11-11 over the last two seasons. Try again.
Now you're moving the goalposts completely. The discussion was about whether an 8-win expectation should be acceptable following two seasons at 11-11. You tried to say it was fine after two 11 win seasons, which isn't what we're coming off of, so now you're changing it to "but aren't we better than last year" which also was not the discussion. Also, 5-1 is not a "vast improvement," that's the exact same record we had through 6 games last year.
Just a thought.....is it the beginning of the end.....of what. The Franklin Era? Perhaps. Should he be replaced down the road, what guarantee is there that 7-6-8-5 or worse won't occur? I know the answer to that one. See Nebraska, Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Florida State....etc. They all thought it was "the coach." Several times each. LOL
Fanboy thinking is so simple......it's like just put in Allar. As if that's THE fix for everything.
Balls to the wall, if that was the solution to the problems.....don't you think a room full of D1 coaches would have figured it out?
Fanboy thinking is so simple......it's like just put in Allar. As if that's THE fix for everything.
Balls to the wall, if that was the solution to the problems.....don't you think a room full of D1 coaches would have figured it out?
Allar isn’t the answer…he is a very nice shiny object that will have full control and all the opportunity next year.
In Game Adjustments need to be made by D1 coaches who make a lot of money. Most of my posts after Michigan were all about this;
“You are gonna have more time at halftime to get all the coaches together, to drill it down, and then get it to the players. But, you have to be able to make plays and make adjustments throughout the game, and that’s the coaches and the players,” Franklin said. “It’s, this has happened and we need to get it corrected because it’s going to show up again in the next series and we got to prove that we’ve got this corrected. That’s the coaches getting adjusted. And then that’s the players out on the field making the adjustments that we’ve just talked about on the sideline.
“Everybody has to own that, but it starts with us as coaches. I think that’s a really good example of one of the issues that we had last Saturday is being able to do that and do it quickly. And the best teams can do it fast. The reality is, that’s why within the drive if something’s working, you want to go back to it before they get to the sideline and are able to make the adjustment. Prove that they’ve figured out how to stop it.”
In Game Adjustments need to be made by D1 coaches who make a lot of money. Most of my posts after Michigan were all about this;
4) James Franklin’s in-game adjustments
Asked by a fan about waiting until halftime to make adjustments, Franklin offered his insights into how corrections are made during the game.“You are gonna have more time at halftime to get all the coaches together, to drill it down, and then get it to the players. But, you have to be able to make plays and make adjustments throughout the game, and that’s the coaches and the players,” Franklin said. “It’s, this has happened and we need to get it corrected because it’s going to show up again in the next series and we got to prove that we’ve got this corrected. That’s the coaches getting adjusted. And then that’s the players out on the field making the adjustments that we’ve just talked about on the sideline.
“Everybody has to own that, but it starts with us as coaches. I think that’s a really good example of one of the issues that we had last Saturday is being able to do that and do it quickly. And the best teams can do it fast. The reality is, that’s why within the drive if something’s working, you want to go back to it before they get to the sideline and are able to make the adjustment. Prove that they’ve figured out how to stop it.”
Got to feel for the Franklin/ Clifford haters. Games like this are hard for them to stomach.
I am positive that win on Saturday pissed off a lot of people in this thread. Instead of being able to come here and complain they will have to wait until the team loses again before they can tell everyone "I told you so" which is more important than anything.
No it didn’t. The fantasy that those who want a change at HC would wallow in misery over a win is simply a Franklin Fan Club wet dream. No one is upset about this win - sorry. I want Franklin gone but I’d rather have the wins. His undoing will eventually come; take the wins we are able to get in the meantime.
Do you really think that if we FIRE. FRANKLIN.
, we will replace him with someone subpar? Look around. We are very successful, and good-looking. We don’t do anything subpar.
How does the win against Minny in any way, negate the complete flop against Michigan?
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