Only thing that scares me is we have a pretty legitimate shot of us being below .500 with our next hire.
It’s time. 2 of our 3 losses are inexcusable…
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Doesn’t really matter if we get worse. I’m not watching anyways and neither are the people in my group of friends. It’s time to look at coaches that run actual offenses and not try to hire a name coach. Plenty of small school guys that have fire that are doing great things with their team that would love a shot at making 1.5-2.5 million a year.
However, our admin hasn’t put any effort into making our basketball program solid. They treat it like a rec sport
However, our admin hasn’t put any effort into making our basketball program solid. They treat it like a rec sport
That’s a given. Our program is dead and the coliseum needs a major overhaul. I know the LF lofts are unique and nice to have, but I’d rather have spent the money on the hump.
The trade off will be the talent that is brought in. So it's a catch 22.
I actually think Stansbury was a better floor coach than Howland.
I actually think Stansbury was a better floor coach than Howland.
There’s really nothing left to say. There’s no fire in Howland or the program, and we may not have 1500 at the Hump for our SEC home opener against #12 Ark.
Then, we all know will happen. We’re gonna beat Arkansas and Missouri just so that a few of us can somehow rekindle a glimmer of hope, only to get skulldrug by OM and hapless Georgia. We all know how this works
We gave it a shot with Howland, but this season needs to be his swan song. I think even he would understand that
Then, we all know will happen. We’re gonna beat Arkansas and Missouri just so that a few of us can somehow rekindle a glimmer of hope, only to get skulldrug by OM and hapless Georgia. We all know how this works
We gave it a shot with Howland, but this season needs to be his swan song. I think even he would understand that
The lofts will pay for themselves within 8 years. It costs about 7 million from what I remember to build them.
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You misspelled “unequivocally”, in regards to floor coaching…
Stans was a well above average coach, but his recruiting was disheveled and inconsistent. Still, it was way better than Adidas Ben’s.
Stans was a well above average coach, but his recruiting was disheveled and inconsistent. Still, it was way better than Adidas Ben’s.
NCAA Basketball overall is just a bad product…
1. Go to quarters
2. Reset team fouls at the beginning of each qtr.
3. Widen the Lane to same dimensions as NBA.
It is hard to watch 2 elite teams playing each other, much less MSU.
1. Go to quarters
2. Reset team fouls at the beginning of each qtr.
3. Widen the Lane to same dimensions as NBA.
It is hard to watch 2 elite teams playing each other, much less MSU.
What are you talking about?
We fired Moorhead after a 6-7 season. We fired Cannizaro after the opening weekend following a 40 win season & a Super Regional appearance.
Cannizaro was a different set of circumstances. But you are dead on about Moorhead. And we will end up being a 18-20 win team this year. So that's definitely not rock bottom.
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So once. We had people that were dead set on giving Crooms more time. We had people that wanted to hang on to Jackie.
To me it’s not a catch 22 when you are underachieving with talented players. That frustrates me more than anything. I can’t watch anymore stand there and dribble at the top of the key until 10 seconds left in the shot clock and then take a bad shot or turn it over. Howland should have been fired when he hired three Forrest Gump assistant coaches and that’s on Cohen. You got to have an X and O coach. This loss is inexcusable though.
This is so true. We had 3 chances to rack up some quality non conf
wins and we whiffed on all 3. The conference looks stout across the board. Something like 6 teams in the top 25 which is unheard of. So wins are going to be hard to come by. This season is completely shot already. Really no way around it.
wins and we whiffed on all 3. The conference looks stout across the board. Something like 6 teams in the top 25 which is unheard of. So wins are going to be hard to come by. This season is completely shot already. Really no way around it.
There's always people that want to give the current coach more time. But your theory was disproved. This board was literally started because people wanted to hang on to Jackie.
Howlands recruiting has been an enigma. He was lights out the first couple years, but its weird to think how Carter and Q were the only real gems out of all that talent.
Then for the last 5 years, really his only strong class was the year he landed legacies in Perry and Woodard, and hes been hovering around 9-13 in the SEC every other class. Hes been pretty strong with transfers, but somethings just not clicking overall
Then for the last 5 years, really his only strong class was the year he landed legacies in Perry and Woodard, and hes been hovering around 9-13 in the SEC every other class. Hes been pretty strong with transfers, but somethings just not clicking overall
I’d say there’s a pretty big divide between my expectations when he was hired and what has actually transpired. Super frustrating.
Yeah this sucks, like sick to my stomach bad. I’m just trying to keep
in mind that we will have so much opportunity in SEC play to make up for this. We don’t have any bad losses
in mind that we will have so much opportunity in SEC play to make up for this. We don’t have any bad losses
Bill Murray says “hi” from the set of Groundhog Day
QUOTE=MSUDC11;1998653]I honestly don’t know why we expected anything different this year. Yes his team has talent, but so have most of his teams here.
It’s the same song on repeat over and over and over again.[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=MSUDC11;1998653]I honestly don’t know why we expected anything different this year. Yes his team has talent, but so have most of his teams here.
It’s the same song on repeat over and over and over again.[/QUOTE]
We should expect more this season. He has acquired some serious talent this year. He has all the pieces including depth. This team should be kicking ***. Our women's coach could do better with this team
Not if we go get Gregg Marshall a contract right now before anyone else does. Do it now. Don’t wait. Do it.
Are there really a lot of schools interested in a coach who just resigned because of physical and verbal abuse of his players, and maybe coaching staff too?
Not to mention Marshall was making around 3.5 million at Wichita State and we are currently paying Howland a little over 2 million. I don't see our administration making that type of commitment to our basketball program.
I really thought with our depth this season, Howland may actually wake up and let this team run. You know, play to its strengths. I thought he might just put them in the best position to win. That he might just become a coach instead of just an Adidas pawn with a boring, ineffective offense. I was wrong. He is a horrendous floor coach, and he needs to go. Let's go ahead and take the lumps of the horrible replacement Cohen will hire, so we can speed up the process of our next decent hire. Nobody cares anyway right now, so the timing is perfect. Hell, nobody will even know or care if the whole bunch transfers out due to the coaching change...it may fly completely under the radar like when a tree falls in the forest.
I was hoping for the same. With finally having depth and a very versatile team, over-all... why not push the ball up the court? Get more possessions and create a style that can wear down some of these teams we play with little to no depth (Minn) frustrating as ****
Did you WATCH Gonzaga and Duke a few weeks ago? That had a national championship feel and was a GREAT college basketball game. The game ain't dead, MSU basketball is on life support so we're the patient at the hospital pissed at the world. Our view is other sick patients. It's not like we're on the beach in Malibu looking at the hot chicks. That's why college basketball looks bad right now.
But I'm 100% in agreement with you on your list of suggestions.
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