It APPEARS KLS IS
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Not seeing it . Not official. Been rumor for a day or two. That's why my post reads "it appears....."
If true, yeah. Means two guys who accounted for over 60% of WR production are gone.We’re screwed.
Must be a lot of addition going on. Expecting a national championship from all these moves.Just think 14 more leaving.
Roster needs to be trimmed by about 15 to get to. 85. I don't think anyone sees a natty. Perhaps 10 wins again and I'd appreciate that. It's a # denied to most.
Gonna be lots of overtime at Hormel.
That is not how it works in the NIL age. Fifth and sixth year guys probably will not be on scholarship. Franklin alluded to this in his press availability this week.
Interesting. Admittedly, I am not on the cutting edge of the NIL era. However, the concept of putting 14 or 15 players on NIL money in lieu of a scholarship raises questions to me, at least.
If I'm a PSU FB player worthy of NIL money equal to a scholarship and presumably additional funds, why wouldn't I go elsewhere and get my scholarship plus my NIL value?
I was under the impression that NIL money was somewhat limited. From the roster management angle....why keep an additional 14-15 players and bleed them limited resources (NIL) money when I could pool those resources, go out in the portal and get a difference maker where I need one?
In any event, players coming and going have never kept me up at night. Especially in this era, where the very best player on the roster could be gone for more $$$ tomorrow.
I've been a member on this board for decades - literally. It's a great place to meet up with a wide variety of PSU people to discuss a wide variety of topics - serious, humorous, and everything in between. But if you really want to go in depth with PSU sports, the pay site is well worth the money. All the guys there do a phenomenal job of going deep inside the programs.
Although, I am becoming a bit less interested in college sports given its current state of affairs and I don't think its going to get any better anytime soon.
I’m not even a paying member there (I used to be but it became annoying and the inside information usually came out soon after). But it was really enjoyable when I had it.
If they replace KLS with a player that is a willing run blocker and doesn't take plays off, it'll be an improvement.
Well, it should. No one does that - not PSU, not anyone else (even in its most impotent form, the NCAA members would still disallow that).
Where we will be in 3-5-10 years - by which time it might be full-on professional sports, with no relationship to "antiquated" concepts like education/scholarship? Who knows?
I believe the NCAA told BYU and one other program that players who played using NIL $$$ would still count against scholarship. It is the same rule that governs giving "academic" scholarships to athletes to avoid the athletic scholarship. This appears to be one the NCCA can enforce.
re KLS, i did not understand why he came back - thought he would go to NFL.
there will be more players who we would count on for quality depth but given the over roster will need to go.
There will not be 14 or 15 players but could be 6 or so.
KLS would be an undrafted free agent. He's inconsistent at the very least. He may suffer from a common disease among gifted athletes. It's called " he's pretty good....just not nearly as good as he thinks he is."
All I'm saying is that media covering the program have estimated that PSU is between 11-14 over 85. Those scholarships must disappear.unless there exists an as yet unknown "loophole" or Coach is a magician....now you see them, now you don't. Keep in mind that it leaves no room for PSU to add a key player from the portal.
It really doesn't matter to me....I point it out because I think it will make the next few days interesting.
If true, this means all of our wide receiver eggs are in the Fleming basket. I have an Ohio State buddy who keeps telling me that Fleming has great skills and is a solid kid. His only problem is that he is always hurt. Seems he has a bad left shoulder and hurts is nearly every game.
They need to buy alot of diapers BobWhy do BYU players need NIL money? It’s not like they’re going to Starbucks.
It seems to me that players could play as walk on (ie no scholarship) but they would still have to be enrolled as students and they would have to pay for tuition and room and board. How many kids want to do that? Key contributors wouldn't accept that and bench players would probably be spending more on tuition than they receive in NIL money.
Beware of left handed compliments like: solid kid, great skills, blocks well, good leader, watches a lot of film, etc.
Fleming is a nice guy, but the numbers are the numbers. Fleming has a grand total of 963 receiving yardage over 4 years.
He is not a difference making WR.
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I think his value as a positive influence in the room is perhaps his biggest contribution.
He would have made a big difference to the PSU WR room last year.
No doubt. I am sure Fleming is very much a positive influence in terms of intangible attributes.
However, what Penn State desperately needs are WRs who have difference making physical skills such as speed, elusiveness, and great catching ability. In other words, a consistent deep threat who will make opponents abandon the 8 man in a box, man coverage defense against Penn State. Currently, the WR room does not instill fear in opposing defenses. That is a huge problem.
So now who is Allar’s favorite target to overthrow going to be?
Here's something to consider. It's my opinion that the coaching staff didn't exert themselves in an effort to keep KLS. I surmise they have tired of his shtick and with Fleming serving as a positive role model...they see others improving and challenging KLS for snaps.
With about 15 WR on the roster, a considerable number are headed for the exit sign. I like a healthy Wallace, Evans and Saunders. That and a 12 personnel package will have to jell. Jerry Rice isn't coming.