It begins! Paris mentioned as candidate to replace Howard at Michigan

[18IsTheMan]

Ok, so it's just a fan site, but just a sign of things to come, I am sure.

3 realistic coaches to replace Juwan Howard for Michigan Basketball

Juwan Howard's tenure at Michigan won't get judged until the season is mercifully over. Until then they will have to live with the the losing results. When the

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[KingWard]

Inevitable, at this rate. Again. we're going to have to raise him and extend his deal to give him as much time as he started out with - AFTER the season. That doesn't mean his agent can't start talking to Tanner about it sooner.

 

[muscleknight]

Its always the buyout that stings RT.

 

[KingWard]

Its always the buyout that stings RT.

Think of the money we would have had to spend had it not been for his previous folly.

 

[92Pony]

Paris seems like a stand-up dude. I just don't see him bolting at the first opportunity to get out of Dodge. He's building something here, and I think, much like his predecessor, he likes it here. I feel certain after this season his contract will be revisited, given his success - He's done a masterful job this year. With that being said, I hope Tanner doesn't get worked in the negotiations. We lose a LOT off of this year's team. CLP is going to have work to do next season. It would be so Gamecock to jack his salary through the roof for a good season, only to watch us go .500 next season. I guess the hand-wringers will be busy for the next 6-8-10mos.

 

[18IsTheMan]

Inevitable, at this rate. Again. we're going to have to raise him and extend his deal to give him as much time as he started out with - AFTER the season. That doesn't mean his agent can't start talking to Tanner about it sooner.

Yep. Given the perception of our program. As that article states, we would be perceived as a steppingstone job to a destination job.

 

[KingWard]

Yep. Given the perception of our program. As that article states, we would be perceived as a steppingstone job to a destination job.

But the only stepping stone we have proven to be is a stepping stone into retirement or a lesser job.

 

[18IsTheMan]

But the only stepping stone we have proven to be is a stepping stone into retirement or a lesser job.

True and could factor in a decision by Lamont to get while the getting is good. Does he think sustained success here is possible? It's never really been done.

 

[KingWard]

True and could factor in a decision by Lamont to get while the getting is good. Does he think sustained success here is possible? It's never really been done.

McGuire was on his way to doing it when our maladroit administration pulled the rug out from under him by bolting the ACC for........NOTHING! The Metro didn't come along for awhile, was not the ACC anyway, and so the program could not be sustained after that dumb@$$ move.

 

[18IsTheMan]

McGuire was on his way to doing it when our maladroit administration pulled the rug out from under him by bolting the ACC for........NOTHING! The Metro didn't come along for awhile, was not the ACC anyway, and so the program could not be sustained after that dumb@$$ move.

Yeah. Been a very long time since that happened though. We've been in the SEC for a generation now and have not sustained success.

As others have noted, the landscape SHOULD be much friendlier to us in basketball than in football. Dawn is probably a recruiting chip for us to keep him.

Not saying he should leave or will leave, but maybe if he's got a shot at a job like Michigan, he cashes out instead of doubling down here and risk seeing his stock fall in the next couple of years.

 

[FootballLVR]

I wouldn't really blame him for going to Michigan but I'd rather him stay. If he does go who do we get? Gregg Marshall?

 

[18IsTheMan]

I wouldn't really blame him for going to Michigan but I'd rather him stay. If he does go who do we get? Gregg Marshall?

I'm not gonna say this is our one shot at relevance, but it sure feels like it. It has the feel of a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. My lifetime anyway.

 

[gamecock stock]

I believe that Tanner will raise his salary to be in the Top 20 of pay among men basketball coaches, which would be great for having been here only 2 years. Could we still Lose him to Michigan? Yes. Does that worry me? No. I never worry about things out of my control. It is fantastic to have the problem of having a coach others want. I hope we can say the same about our football coach soon.

 

[Prestonyte]

Pay the man and make him feel wanted and hopefully his relationships with the other coaches and what he is building with the recruiting work already done, he will want to stay long term.

 

[RUMMENIGGE]

Blue horseshoe loves anacott steel,

 

[DarkCock]

Yeah. Been a very long time since that happened though. We've been in the SEC for a generation now and have not sustained success.

As others have noted, the landscape SHOULD be much friendlier to us in basketball than in football. Dawn is probably a recruiting chip for us to keep him.

Not saying he should leave or will leave, but maybe if he's got a shot at a job like Michigan, he cashes out instead of doubling down here and risk seeing his stock fall in the next couple of years.

A loooong time ago.

 

[18IsTheMan]

A loooong time ago.

I suspect MOST of the fans who grouse about us leaving the ACC were not even alive at the time or are not old enough to remember it. Most have probably just heard/read about it after the fact. We left the ACC about 54 years ago. Realistically, you'd have to be about 63 or so years old to have much in the way of substantive memories of us being in the ACC. That's a pretty small slice of the fan base.

And I am not referring to any particular poster here. Over the years our fans have brought this up over and over again like it's something that happened fairly recently. So many of our fans act like they have PTSD from us leaving the ACC. Soldiers got over Viet Nam faster than some of our fans have gotten over us leaving the ACC.

 

[KingWard]

I suspect MOST of the fans who grouse about us leaving the ACC were not even alive at the time or are not old enough to remember it. Most have probably just heard/read about it after the fact. We left the ACC about 54 years ago....

That's how compelling and convincing the lore is.

 

[Spurman54]

McGuire was on his way to doing it when our maladroit administration pulled the rug out from under him by bolting the ACC for........NOTHING! The Metro didn't come along for awhile, was not the ACC anyway, and so the program could not be sustained after that dumb@$$ move.

King Ward you are pathetic to say the least. Best move USC ever made putting up with all the crap from the tobacco road schools. You are pathetic!

 

[KingWard]

King Ward you are pathetic to say the least. Best move USC ever made putting up with all the crap from the tobacco road schools. You are pathetic!

We had started beating those people. How old are you? Tell the truth, now.

 

[18IsTheMan]

That's how compelling and convincing the lore is.

Indeed, lore is a big part of it. We were in the ACC for 18 years. Left 54 years ago. And have been in the SEC for 32 years.

 

[KingWard]

Indeed, lore is a big part of it. We were in the ACC for 18 years. Left 54 years ago. And have been in the SEC for 32 years.

You're only strengthening the case for the potency of the lore. There's substance behind the lore. World War II ended 79 years ago. Its effects are still evident, even if papered over.

 

[18IsTheMan]

You're only strengthening the case for the potency of the lore. There's substance behind the lore.

Like most lore, truth and myth become so intertwined, it's almost impossible to tell which is which. The best anyone can do now is read retrospective accounts online explaining why we left, many of which are spotty at best. Either way, it was 54 years ago. If we're still reeling from that move, we've got issues.

Besides, it's not like were were an ACC power in football, which is the primary sport here. Had 1 bowl game our entire time. We were trending up in basketball when we left, but it's entirely speculative if we would have sustained that.

 

[Uscg1984]

You're only strengthening the case for the potency of the lore. There's substance behind the lore. World War II ended 79 years ago. Its effects are still evident, even if papered over.

Because WW2 remains the most significant world event of the last 100+ years. "The Great War" (1914-1918) was so named because people couldn't imagine a more substantial war. Then, it was supplanted by a war many times more substantial.

Leaving the ACC was the most substantial event in Carolina's athletic history. Then, in 1991, it was supplanted by a much more substantial event.

 

[gamecock stock]

I suspect MOST of the fans who grouse about us leaving the ACC were not even alive at the time or are not old enough to remember it. Most have probably just heard/read about it after the fact. We left the ACC about 54 years ago. Realistically, you'd have to be about 63 or so years old to have much in the way of substantive memories of us being in the ACC. That's a pretty small slice of the fan base.

And I am not referring to any particular poster here. Over the years our fans have brought this up over and over again like it's something that happened fairly recently. So many of our fans act like they have PTSD from us leaving the ACC. Soldiers got over Viet Nam faster than some of our fans have gotten over us leaving the ACC.

I suspect that many of those fans who wish we never left the ACC relish the idea of playing easier teams in football, rather than SEC teams. I won't go into the disadvantages of being in the ACC today. We all know what they are. Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri is beating SEC teams and may have a Top 10 team next season. Josh Heupel inherited a mess at Tennessee, and, he is winning. People need to stop using the SEC competition as a crutch. But if we have another flop of a season next season, wait for the schedule excuses to come up,

 

[KingWard]

Because WW2 remains the most significant world event of the last 100+ years. "The Great War" (1914-1918) was so named because people couldn't imagine a more substantial war. Then, it was supplanted by a war many times more substantial.

Leaving the ACC was the most substantial event in Carolina's athletic history. Then, in 1991, it was supplanted by a much more substantial event.

Any substantialness lies in our inability to capitalize on it in terms of stature.

 

[KingWard]

I suspect that many of those fans who wish we never left the ACC relish the idea of playing easier teams in football, rather than SEC teams. I won't go into the disadvantages of being in the ACC today. We all know what they are. Eli Drinkwitz at Missouri is beating SEC teams and may have a Top 10 team next season. Josh Heupel inherited a mess at Tennessee, and, he is winning. People need to stop using the SEC competition as a crutch. But if we have another flop of a season next season, wait for the schedule excuses to come up,

It isn't about easier opponents, it's about natural rivalries and bilious hatred.

 

[KingWard]

Misfire.

 

[gamecock stock]

I'm not concerned about a "buyout" clause in a new contract for Paris. Unlike Muschamp and Beamer, Paris has won as a Head Coach at his previous school. Lamont Paris is a proven "winner". We are fortunate to have him. And I believe that Tanner knows that and will make it known to Paris we are happy to have him here through a new contract.

 

[Silverspur02]

Ok, so it's just a fan site, but just a sign of things to come, I am sure.

3 realistic coaches to replace Juwan Howard for Michigan Basketball

Juwan Howard's tenure at Michigan won't get judged until the season is mercifully over. Until then they will have to live with the the losing results. When the

gbmwolverine.com

I think the San Diego coach would be an excellent hire for Michigan. Tey should go after him really hard!!

 

[Blues man]

I missed the Metro more than I did the ACC.

 

[18IsTheMan]

We won the conference championships in basketball and football the final year.

Speculative as to what would have been sustained. There is no reason to believe we would not have regressed to our historic norm.

 

[18IsTheMan]

You're only strengthening the case for the potency of the lore. There's substance behind the lore. World War II ended 79 years ago. Its effects are still evident, even if papered over.

lol, wow, not sure what point you are making by comparing one of the most consequential events in human history to a completely inconsequential event.

 

[KingWard]

lol, wow, not sure what point you are making by comparing one of the most consequential events in human history to a completely inconsequential event.

One thing need not equal another in scale in order to be substantively analogous.

 

[18IsTheMan]

One thing need not equal another in scale in order to be substantively analogous.

Some things are so unequal that the analogy is destroyed.

 

[KingWard]

Speculative as to what would have been sustained. There is no reason to believe we would not have regressed to our historic norm.

Dietzel was better and more invested as an AD. I think skepticism would have been justified in football, but not basketball. With McGuire beginning to bring in African-American players, success would have been sustainable with that program in the ACC.

Some things are so unequal that the analogy is destroyed.

But not this one. Within the context of the particular situation, our leaving the ACC while beginning to experience some success, and without a bird in the hand, was seismic.

 

[mickray]

I'm not concerned about a "buyout" clause in a new contract for Paris. Unlike Muschamp and Beamer, Paris has won as a Head Coach at his previous school. Lamont Paris is a proven "winner". We are fortunate to have him. And I believe that Tanner knows that and will make it known to Paris we are happy to have him here through a new contract.

Color him gone......

 

[18IsTheMan]

Dietzel was better and more invested as an AD. I think skepticism would have been justified in football, but not basketball. With McGuire beginning to bring in African-American players, success would have been sustainable with that program in the ACC.

But not this one. Within the context of the particular situation, our leaving the ACC while beginning to experience some success, and without a bird in the hand, was seismic.

lol, well, I guess if you think WW2 is comparable to us leaving the ACC then I am, maybe for the first time ever, genuinely speechless in response.

 

[kidrobinski]

I suspect MOST of the fans who grouse about us leaving the ACC were not even alive at the time or are not old enough to remember it. Most have probably just heard/read about it after the fact. We left the ACC about 54 years ago. Realistically, you'd have to be about 63 or so years old to have much in the way of substantive memories of us being in the ACC. That's a pretty small slice of the fan base.

And I am not referring to any particular poster here. Over the years our fans have brought this up over and over again like it's something that happened fairly recently. So many of our fans act like they have PTSD from us leaving the ACC. Soldiers got over Viet Nam faster than some of our fans have gotten over us leaving the ACC.

Spoken as one who wasn’t there, hasn’t a clue what it was, but is master of the universe nonetheless.

 

[Psycock]

Lamont seems happy here. We need to keep him happy and let him continue to build or piece team together like he did. To do this in year 2 is remarkable!!