Its going to be hard for us to compete in volleyball

[Darryl Steight]

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First of all, gimmick infringement***************************************

Secondly, I abso-freaking-lutely don't care what this one weirdo from California does with in his personal life - he can dress like a woman or buy all the tampons he wants - until it starts affecting me (or in this case, my daughter). If my daughter was about to get a scholarship to play for our mighty volley dawgs, and some 'girl' with a penis takes her spot, I'm pissed. If a dude in a wig with man muscles is out there playing for ole miss and he spikes my daughter into the emergency room, I'm pissed.

I hate to be Mr. conservative "slippery-slope" guy, but that's what this is. It's been proven over and over the last few years, give them an inch and they'll take a mile. Nothing is ever enough. Let him play on the girls team, next thing you know he's taking a scholarship from one of them. Or a spot on the medal stand. And worse, he'll end up in the locker room with your daughter. 17 that.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

You really asking when will someone be killed?...like you think it's a concern that a boy will hit a volleyball at a girl so hard she dies?
How often does that happen in the men's game?...take that frequency and apply it to your concern here.

Also, gay and trans are different. Like very different.


I am not in favor of transgirls playing in biologically female specific sports at the school level, but the ignorance shown by many, like what is posted in the quote above, really hurts the argument of less ignorant and fearful people because we are lumped together.

No they are not that different in reality. Do you think volleyball and swimming are the only 2 female sports ? Have you ever heard of wrestling ? And yeah they already had concussions from volleyball spikes from dudes. Also MMA is dealing with it and have already had a skull fracture from a dudes knee to her head. Watch some news other than CNN. The ignorance of people who don't take in all the facts is pathetic. Don't forget about the "trans" boy that raped a girl in the girls bathroom. They shut the story down and moved him to another school and he raped another girl. So obviously he isn't gay. Maybe you can experience that one day

 

[ckDOG]

Can she play corner? We need a couple...

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

You really asking when will someone be killed?...like you think it's a concern that a boy will hit a volleyball at a girl so hard she dies?
How often does that happen in the men's game?...take that frequency and apply it to your concern here.

Also, gay and trans are different. Like very different.


I am not in favor of transgirls playing in biologically female specific sports at the school level, but the ignorance shown by many, like what is posted in the quote above, really hurts the argument of less ignorant and fearful people because we are lumped together.

There’s already been some women injured by trans men. I’m pretty sure there was an ice hockey incident and a field hockey incident. The ice hockey one was pretty brutal.

 

[mstateglfr]

For the sake of this child, and that's who we are talking about here- a child, I hope the reporting is accurate. The IG account of the club she plays for is flooded with outrage posts.
Her life is gonna be brutal regardless, but it would be unconcionable to put someone thru this and the story not be fully accurate.
The outrage mobs are going to froth this up into a furry of over the top claims about how this is an epidemic and widespread and permeating all parts of education, etc.


To be clear, bsed on a little reading, it seems accurate.

And for those that haven't already melted in anger over my post...
- CA allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
- USAV allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
I mention this because facts are often rare in conversations like this. She has not broken any rules so far.

 

[LimaoCabeca]

Washington, who went 16-15 last year in the Pac 12 is headed to the B1G and signed the California Player of the Year and the MVP of the Girls Junior National Championship.

And yes, that's a dude. Can't wait to see him dominate women's college volleyball.

Tate “Drag”eset. Can’t make that one up

 

[mstateglfr]

No they are not that different in reality. Do you think volleyball and swimming are the only 2 female sports ? Have you ever heard of wrestling ? And yeah they already had concussions from volleyball spikes from dudes. Also MMA is dealing with it and have already had a skull fracture from a dudes knee to her head. Watch some news other than CNN. The ignorance of people who don't take in all the facts is pathetic. Don't forget about the "trans" boy that raped a girl in the girls bathroom. They shut the story down and moved him to another school and he raped another girl. So obviously he isn't gay. Maybe you can experience that one day

You mentioned a girl going against a transfemale that is 5" and 40# bigger. So wrestling isn't applicable.
The discussion is about a volleyball player, so I stuck to volleyball as the sport you are concerned about.

Concussions can, and do, happen in volleyball from a girl hitting the ball.
Again, you fear mentioned killed. A concussion is nothing close to death.


And you end with me being raped. Wow. Delightful***

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

For the sake of this child, and that's who we are talking about here- a child, I hope the reporting is accurate. The IG account of the club she plays for is flooded with outrage posts.
Her life is gonna be brutal regardless, but it would be unconcionable to put someone thru this and the story not be fully accurate.
The outrage mobs are going to froth this up into a furry of over the top claims about how this is an epidemic and widespread and permeating all parts of education, etc.


To be clear, bsed on a little reading, it seems accurate.

And for those that haven't already melted in anger over my post...
- CA allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
- USAV allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
I mention this because facts are often rare in conversations like this. She has not broken any rules so far.

But no one is arguing that he’s breaking rules….just that it’s a male playing against females (and taking a females roster spot) and that he will have a competitive advantage.

 

[mstateglfr]

There’s already been some women injured by trans men. I’m pretty sure there was an ice hockey incident and a field hockey incident. The ice hockey one was pretty brutal.

Yes, I have been pushed articles by Google about injuries like that.
Again though, I responded to the death comment. Men playing volleyball at the highest level don't kill other men with attacks, so the concern that a transgirl in HS or even college is going to somehow hit a ball so hard someone dies is pretty far fetched.




Again, I am not in favor of transgirls playing in biological female leagues in school.

 

[mstateglfr]

But no one is arguing that he’s breaking rules….just that it’s a male playing against females (and taking a females roster spot) and that he will have a competitive advantage.

I understand rule breaking hasn't been explicitly mentioned.
But 'hiding' it has been mentioned. This isn't hiding.

And I was curious about the USAV policy since I didn't even know it.

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

I hate the whole concept and how we're throwing girls and women under the bus, but I'd rather see the frog thrown into the boiling water and everyone be shocked than the heat slowly getting turned up. Like squad of five dudes from some no name school needs to win the women's basketball championship next year.

 

[ckDOG]

I hate the whole concept and how we're throwing girls and women under the bus, but I'd rather see the frog thrown into the boiling water and everyone be shocked than the heat slowly getting turned up. Like squad of five dudes from some no name school needs to win the women's basketball championship next year.

Sometimes it's better to make a mockery of a ridiculous situation than to have patience with it and hope it goes away. This would nip it for sure.

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

You mentioned a girl going against a transfemale that is 5" and 40# bigger. So wrestling isn't applicable.
The discussion is about a volleyball player, so I stuck to volleyball as the sport you are concerned about.

Concussions can, and do, happen in volleyball from a girl hitting the ball.
Again, you fear mentioned killed. A concussion is nothing close to death.


And you end with me being raped. Wow. Delightful***

Oh cmon....its not that dangerous dude. Don't worry about some guy pretending to be a girl. Just look the other way. And it's not you that would be raped pal. Think about what I said. Not what you wanna think I said. Unless you are a girl.

 

[mstateglfr]

Oh cmon....its not that dangerous dude. Don't worry about some guy pretending to be a girl. Just look the other way. And it's not you that would be raped pal. Think about what I said. Not what you wanna think I said. Unless you are a girl.

Don't forget about the "trans" boy that raped a girl in the girls bathroom. They shut the story down and moved him to another school and he raped another girl. So obviously he isn't gay. Maybe you can experience that one day.

OK, so what are you suggesting I experience one day?...not being gay?



It is possible to not support transgirls playing in biologically female sports while also not being ignorant or a bag. That's really all I meant to say in an earlier post that seems to have triggered you. You don't need to be a bag and spout off ignorant fears because it takes away from the actual argument and it makes others look bad that hold the same overall view.

 

[BossDawg78]

It's fascinating how this garbage has caught on. Just fascinating...and many schools are encouraging this crap. We were taught in nursing school (2002 - 2004) to never play along with a patient's delusions. You at least TRY to bring them back to reality, otherwise they'll just get worse because their delusions are validated. It's the same thing with these trannies. And hypothetically speaking, what would keep a white person from identifying as black if reparations are ever passed? Why wouldn't that work? Or would it?

 

[mstateglfr]

And hypothetically speaking, what would keep a white person from identifying as black if reparations are ever passed? Why wouldn't that work? Or would it?

You should definitely start a thread about this.***

 

[Baddog11]

I’m just here to re-live the prison wape story.

 

[DerHntr]

The vast majority of people don’t. They will always find a few talking heads to make it look like the liberals are coming for your children

Most Americans oppose including trans athletes in sports, poll finds

Nearly 70% of U.S. adults say transgender athletes should be allowed to compete only on sports teams that correspond with the sexes they were assigned at birth, Gallup found.

www.nbcnews.com

30% is a lot of damn people who think it is OK. This is equivalent to nearly 100M Americans. The number should be well under 5% since this is such a common sense issue.

 

[BulldogBlitz]

Well the cheers will just have to be a bit cleaner. No dawgie style stuff.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

There have been some women out there fighting it but they get drowned out.

My wife is a former college athlete and this stuff gets her unhinged and crazy pissed. This is taking away from hard working actual females. Some hard working real females out there aren't getting scholarships because some dude wants to pretend to be a girl.

 

[Trojanbulldog19]

No they are not that different in reality. Do you think volleyball and swimming are the only 2 female sports ? Have you ever heard of wrestling ? And yeah they already had concussions from volleyball spikes from dudes. Also MMA is dealing with it and have already had a skull fracture from a dudes knee to her head. Watch some news other than CNN. The ignorance of people who don't take in all the facts is pathetic. Don't forget about the "trans" boy that raped a girl in the girls bathroom. They shut the story down and moved him to another school and he raped another girl. So obviously he isn't gay. Maybe you can experience that one day

Women's tee box in golf. Driving range? You put the best women up against best men in golf and it's not even close.

 

[PBDog]

dig into who is bankrolling this scam and you wont be shocked....pharmaceuticals, soros, and the normal cast of anti american marxists

 

[Rupert Jenkins]

Don't forget about the "trans" boy that raped a girl in the girls bathroom. They shut the story down and moved him to another school and he raped another girl. So obviously he isn't gay. Maybe you can experience that one day.

OK, so what are you suggesting I experience one day?...not being gay?



It is possible to not support transgirls playing in biologically female sports while also not being ignorant or a bag. That's really all I meant to say in an earlier post that seems to have triggered you. You don't need to be a bag and spout off ignorant fears because it takes away from the actual argument and it makes others look bad that hold the same overall view.

Those were actual events that have happened out here in the real world. I was insinuating that you might have a daughter that could be subjected to this stuff but I'm betting you don't have kids

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

For the sake of this child, and that's who we are talking about here- a child, I hope the reporting is accurate. The IG account of the club she plays for is flooded with outrage posts.
Her life is gonna be brutal regardless, but it would be unconcionable to put someone thru this and the story not be fully accurate.
The outrage mobs are going to froth this up into a furry of over the top claims about how this is an epidemic and widespread and permeating all parts of education, etc.


To be clear, bsed on a little reading, it seems accurate.

And for those that haven't already melted in anger over my post...
- CA allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
- USAV allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
I mention this because facts are often rare in conversations like this. She has not broken any rules so far.

He

 

[BossDawg78]

You should definitely start a thread about this.***

 

[retire the banner]

For the sake of this child, and that's who we are talking about here- a child, I hope the reporting is accurate. The IG account of the club she plays for is flooded with outrage posts.
Her life is gonna be brutal regardless, but it would be unconcionable to put someone thru this and the story not be fully accurate.
The outrage mobs are going to froth this up into a furry of over the top claims about how this is an epidemic and widespread and permeating all parts of education, etc.


To be clear, bsed on a little reading, it seems accurate.

And for those that haven't already melted in anger over my post...
- CA allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
- USAV allows students to play sports for the gender they identify.
I mention this because facts are often rare in conversations like this. She has not broken any rules so far.

 

[rynodawg]

Also curious if USAV allowed it or not, from that article (appears true) it seems his family kept it largely hidden from clubs, coaches, other players, etc. People suspected but no one wanted to be ‘that person’ to come out and complain and risk being wrong.

It’s a situation where probably 90% of trans people in high school sports aren’t good enough to be any factor and go unnoticed,, but there’s a handful that just exploit the situation. Dominating a women’s sport to the point of winning titles/medals/MVP/P5 scholarships is just a dick move (no pun intended). I don‘t understand the appeal of putting that negative spotlight on himself.

 

[Dawgg]

I know I will take some heat for that, que the libs to come after the ole Devil.

Hi. Liberal member of the pack here. I’m actually on the side of people being born biologically male being unable to compete in women’s sports.

I’m 100% for people being true to themselves and if someone who is born biologically male wakes up one day and feels like they’re a woman. Fine, you’re a woman. Dress how you want and get whatever gender-affirming care you need to be who you feel like you are.

That being said, there are too many physical advantages those born physically male have over people who are born biologically female and to allow them to take the already limited spots afforded to biological females away is unfair.

I feel bad for those kids in this world that feel like they can’t be who they really are, but balancing that against taking opportunities away from deserving girls and women, I have to stop there.

 

[HotMop]

You really asking when will someone be killed?...

Not in Volleyball but a girl did get damaged pretty bad in MMA. When will this extend into Fast Pitch Softball or Wrestling?

 

[Coast_Dawg]

I’ll never understand it. Is it for attention?

 

[mstateglfr]

Those were actual events that have happened out here in the real world. I was insinuating that you might have a daughter that could be subjected to this stuff but I'm betting you don't have kids

That is what you were trying to say? F17S.

I have 2 daughters- 16 and 13. Both play sports. I coach HS girls volleyball and also club volleyball.
3 days ago, a 9th grader on my HS team asked me title9 was and we talked about the big points.

I am as entrenched in supporting females having opportunity to play sports as I think I could be.

 

[WilCoDawg]

That is what you were trying to say? F17S.

I have 2 daughters- 16 and 13. Both play sports. I coach HS girls volleyball and also club volleyball.
3 days ago, a 9th grader on my HS team asked me title9 was and we talked about the big points.

I am as entrenched in supporting females having opportunity to play sports as I think I could be.

…until a dude (that’s been twisted by some evil adults in his life) decides he wants to take a spot on a team that should go to an actual female.

 

[AstroDog]

Where is Riley Gaines when you need her? In all seriousness dudes should not be competing in girls sports. I know I will take some heat for that, que the libs to come after the ole Devil. I also love what Gaines did say in the congressional hearing and it does ring true. You only see this happening in one direction there are no examples of "boys" trying to break into men's sports this way.

Don't despair. A school in the Memphis area just opened an Afterschool Daycare Satan Club. And it seems to be generating a good amount of interest. Take a win when you can get one huh?

 

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Don't despair. A school in the Memphis area just opened an Afterschool Daycare Satan Club. And it seems to be generating a good amount of interest. Take a win when you can get one huh?

I have never understood why my dad gets all the half way intelligent worshippers, and I get stuck with the morons.

 

[aTotal360]

 

[HotMop]

Peak performance!

 

[UpTheMiddlex3Punt]

 

[BulldogBlitz]

The girl getting knocked out by that other very hairy girl is rough.

 

[Lucifer Morningstar]

Hi. Liberal member of the pack here. I’m actually on the side of people being born biologically male being unable to compete in women’s sports.

I’m 100% for people true to themselves and if someone who is born biologically male wakes up one day and feels like they’re a woman. Fine, you’re a woman. Dress how you want and get whatever gender-affirming care you need to be who you feel like you are.

That being said, there are too many physical advantages those born physically male have over people who are born biologically female and to allow them to take the already limited spots afforded to biological females away is unfair.

I feel bad for those kids in this world that feel like they can’t be who they really are, but balancing that against taking opportunities away from deserving girls and women, I have to stop there.

I just figured my take would be seen as less than socially empathetic. I tend to agree with most everything here.

 

[Hump4Hoops]

The transphobia in this thread is disgusting. Whether trans girls should play in girls sports is one thing, but the dehumanization is beyond cruel. The suicide rate among trans people is very high because of this sort of hate. I hope all of you find empathy eventually.