Its professional football now and the old excuses no longer apply

HarrisburgDave

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Reading the threads I so often see that recruiting is used as an excuse for the edge that the likes of Alabama, tOSU, Georgia and Michigan have on everyone. Well, it is also 2023. We have NIL now and soon the likely outright paying of players by Universities. It seems inevitable. Money talks if you want players. Cash levels the playing field. The recruiting excuse is fast making itself worthless.

The modern game is about who can offer dollars and opportunity. Oh, and coaching too. Once you have the players you need a leader and a winner who is imaginative and strong. Players and good coaching win in professional football. As they do in most professional sports.

The excuse makers are always there. "We can't do this because of that." "The other guys cheat. " " We are what we are and we should have no aspirations." "We may not be elite, but we are close and thats all I need." Those types will always nag those who want to achieve. Winners ignore those dopes and that's how legends like Rockne, Paterno, Wooden, and Wilkinson are made.

Then we have the latest, "Name me a better coach. Don't you remember what happened to Nebraska?" Of course that ignores the recent history where LSU and Georgia replaced coaches and went on to win championships since Penn State did their last hire. Oh, and Michigan, TCU, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Washington hired new coaches and got to the playoffs with their new hires before Penn State. Then look at the new coaching hires at Tennessee, USC, Ole Miss, UCLA, Duke, Air Force, Louisville, LSU, Notre Dame, Oregon State, Tulane, Oregon, Texas, Oklahoma, Washington, Florida State and even James Madison who have their teams in the Top 25.

In professional life achievement is awarded and lack of achievement is penalized. You don't keep sending out VPs to win contracts and see them lose and survive without changes. College football is a business now more than ever. When the product and outcomes become stale the brand suffers and monetary rewards begin to drop. Putting up a good effort and doing so in a gentlemanly way is no longer tolerable. It's results that count and everything else walks. Don't like that? Then go support Franklin and Marshall or Bucknell, because the old college football is dead and its rotting corpse is getting buried. The nation knows when a program just does not have it.

Those who want to use the transfer portal had better wake up to a fact. That fact is that the portal goes both ways. Are you a player that sees your coach has little trust in you? Do you lack a surrounding cast to maximize the use of your talents? Do you see your career being advanced by coaching and experience that will take you to the NFL? If not there are places you can go to. And they will pay you to come.

Its not only on the PSU message boards where you see people coming to the conclusion that the Penn State brand does not have it. You hear it from the press too.

I think it is still just early in this process. It may take several years for the bottom to fall out. I see transfers out by high profile players. I see a stagnation accelerating with the arrival of four new programs to the B1G, three of them arguably as good or better than Penn State. I suspect more losses are coming. Many fans will lose interest. Ticket sales will suffer. Merchandise will not move as quickly. Visits to fan sites will drop. Those dependent upon a growing fan base will join the chorus for change. It will only be when financial projections begin to drop that change will be inevitably forced upon the administration. "Obviously"
 
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Gunsy part Duh!!!
Your determination to continue your insults in defense of your foolish position is crazy. They do say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome. I submit you as evidence of that old cliche having much value.
 
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Your determination to continue your insults in defense of your foolish position is crazy. They do say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome. I submit you as evidence of that old cliche having much value.
Crazy is acting like you're some type of prophet and projecting what will occur. I'm sure you have the powerball numbers too. What is funny is had they won this weekend you all would have stayed under your rocks. If the program slides, he will go, but it doesn't appear like that is going to occur and while that may upset you or some others as you really just care about being right.....which is funny. He's not a perfect coach, makes mistakes, needs to do better in big games.....but the program is finally back on solid footing. That is what is really happening....sorry this bothers so many fans and it's not my fault you're not getting your way....nor is it anyone elses. Sane people aren't firing a coach after a to 3 loss on the road.....sorry, but it's not reality.

I mean who says this stuff.

I think it is still just early in this process. It may take several years for the bottom to fall out. I see transfers out by high profile players. I see a stagnation accelerating with the arrival of four new programs to the B1G, three of them arguably as good or better than Penn State. I suspect more losses are coming.
 
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Its been professional football. Now it's just out in the open. However, as much as cash helps, there is more to it than that. Watch Deon, he knows how to play the off the field game. It's about followers on social media, brand building, image building, cross-market appeal, cross-market collaboration, and influence. In other words, the next wave of coaches are selling the illusion of off the field career control to the top players. Gone are the days of new shoes, a PS5, and cash in a bag equal "I'll play for you for four years, keep my head down, and shut my mouth coach."

On top of all of that, the team needs to win. No one wants to follow a loser on social media. IMO, what Deon is doing is the right approach for this era. Yeah, they have lost games, but no one seems to care. The brand gives the impression that the players are thriving and that any setback on the field is, at most, temporary. Meanwhile, PSU looses again to OSU with a 5 star QB (who looks like hot garbage at points) and gets further cemented as a 2nd rate program. Straight cash can't fix that. See above. CJF is the only guy who can change it, and after ten years, I don't think he can.
 

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Crazy is acting like you're some type of prophet and projecting what will occur. I'm sure you have the powerball numbers too. What is funny is had they won this weekend you all would have stayed under your rocks. If the program slides, he will go, but it doesn't appear like that is going to occur and while that may upset you or some others as you really just care about being right.....which is funny. He's not a perfect coach, makes mistakes, needs to do better in big games.....but the program is finally back on solid footing. That is what is really happening....sorry this bothers so many fans and it's not my fault you're not getting your way....nor is it anyone elses. Sane people aren't firing a coach after a to 3 loss on the road.....sorry, but it's not reality.

I mean who says this stuff.

I think it is still just early in this process. It may take several years for the bottom to fall out. I see transfers out by high profile players. I see a stagnation accelerating with the arrival of four new programs to the B1G, three of them arguably as good or better than Penn State. I suspect more losses are coming.
You have argued with me about Franklin for years. I simply pointed to his awful record against ranked opponents and his terrible record against top ten opponents and said that past would be prolog. Who has been right sport?
 
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You have argued with me about Franklin for years. I simply pointed to his awful record against ranked opponents and his terrible record against top ten opponents and said that past would be prolog. Who has been right sport?
LOL, you mean you took numbers anyone can find and spit them back up like nobody knew what they were. We know what his numbers are against UM and tOSU....he's not getting fired now or after this year.....sport. We also know the program was coming out of a hole and is now firmly back in the top 10, but you can still think something is about to occur. Good job Charlie Brown.

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LOL, you mean you took numbers anyone can find and spit them back up like nobody knew what they were. We know what his numbers are against UM and tOSU....he's not getting fired now or after this year.....sport. We also know the program was coming out of a hole and is now firmly back in the top 10, but you can still think something is about to occur. Good job Charlie Brown.

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Yawn. Records you ignore. And your excuses keep rolling out. I would submit that YOU are Charlie Brown. You keep trying to kick that football ignoring what Lucy has done to you time, and time and time again. Oh, and its not just tOSU and Michigan that abuse Franklin, lest some reader of this thread think that the awful record against ranked opponents is confined to them.
 
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LOL, you mean you took numbers anyone can find and spit them back up like nobody knew what they were. We know what his numbers are against UM and tOSU....he's not getting fired now or after this year.....sport. We also know the program was coming out of a hole and is now firmly back in the top 10, but you can still think something is about to occur. Good job Charlie Brown.

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Of course he is not getting fired this year or next, or the year after.

He’s not getting a school issued Maserati either.
 

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Of course he is not getting fired this year or next, or the year after.

He’s not getting a school issued Maserati either.
Its Franklins job to go out and acquire that Maserati. Hell, this year his team would settle for a Chrysler at WR instead of the Fiats they currently have.

Of course he fired the last WR coach, putting the blame on him for a lack of recruiting success. Never mind that same fired coach criticized the lack of NIL support in the then fractured PSU NIL effort. At least Stubblefield put wideouts on the field who could run routes and catch the ball. His replacement? Uggghh. Thats on the boss.
 
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