Kemon Spell

[heyholet'sgo]

We are only pissed because we are on the losing end . Reality kind of sucks, but .......again , I think CJF does an awesome job of finding the next level diamonds in the rough and developing them . That's our style and I think it will take us places . You think NFL locker rooms have chemistry issues? Try that with a team loaded with 18 year old premies. It COULD....work , but I like what PSU is selling : integrity . Hard work, not bright flashy lights make a good football team ........ OK old man rant over !

 

[PSUFTG]

How about NIL penalties to the player being recruited example you commit to one place via verbally, social medially, however its done--- but end up somewhere else--- a portion of your actual NIL you receive from the school you sign with lets say 20% goes to the school you decommitted from.....maybe great in theory.. easy to track... probably hard to enforce as in who does the enforcing?

this would instantly stop any early commitments used as leverage by the player and in some cases by the university as well (poaching)

NIL Contracts (Or revenue-sharing contracts. Or just call them what they are, payment guarantees) don't go into effect until the ballplayer signs (In fact, they have for all intents and purposes replaced the old "letter of intent", which is now gone). And there is no contractual agreement in place prior to that - can't be, actually, because there is no legal relationship.
There is no "commitment" until that point (no "early" commitment, no verbal commitment, no nothing commitment). That term is a purely fictional product born from the recruiting guru industry and the desires of fan bases.
So, whether the idea is appealing to someone or not, none of what you supposed there is viable or relevant while a kid is being "recruited".

 

[Moogy]

1. Allow kids to sign binding contracts with a school as early as junior year; give it some teeth - penalties for school/player if broken, but allow maybe a signing bonus and cancellation should a coach leave.
2. Salary Cap/Collective Bargaining. NIL is backwards right now like rookie contracts used to be - correct that.

1. Even though more and more kids are starting school late and flunking themselves to gain advantages, many kids aren't 18 by the time their junior year ends, so they won't be signing binding anything by then.

2. Collective bargaining is the eventual solution to all of this, but there's a lot of legal hoops to jump through to get there.

 

[JoePaMajorCFBrecord409Ws]

NIL Contracts (Or revenue-sharing contracts. Or just call them what they are, payment guarantees) don't go into effect until the ballplayer signs (In fact, they have for all intents and purposes replaced the old "letter of intent", which is now gone). And there is no contractual agreement in place prior to that - can't be, actually, because there is no legal relationship.
There is no "commitment" until that point (no "early" commitment, no verbal commitment, no nothing commitment). That term is a purely fictional product born from the recruiting guru industry and the desires of fan bases.
So, whether the idea is appealing to someone or not, none of what you supposed there is viable or relevant while a kid is being "recruited".

Agree with what you're saying from a "law" standpoint (again, most States do not allow parties under 18 years of age to enter into legal contracts). However, you are incorrect in ascribing your "blame" in this specific instance. It is the athlete himself (Spell) who declared himself a "PSU Commitment" and implied that PSU had made him an offer associated with that commitment. It is pretty clear that the athlete did this to create a platform from which he is now conducting his auction for his services from (i.e., he is representing this as his base offer and is looking to create a bidding war for his servi
ces). He should not be able to use a supposed PSU Offer as a bargaining chip in his auction.

 

[PSUFTG]

I am certainly not blaming anyone. It just is what it is.

And EVERY ballplayer uses the "leverage" of being able to choose among competing options for where to play ball (in college anyway, the higher-level pro leagues of course have a plethora of rules impacting that stuff)
And EVERY team uses the leverage of "there are other fish in the sea" when recruiting ballplayers.

 

[Wow]

Agree with what you're saying from a "law" standpoint (again, most States do not allow parties under 18 years of age to enter into legal contracts). However, you are incorrect in ascribing your "blame" in this specific instance. It is the athlete himself (Spell) who declared himself a "PSU Commitment" and implied that PSU had made him an offer associated with that commitment. It is pretty clear that the athlete did this to create a platform from which he is now conducting his auction for his services from (i.e., he is representing this as his base offer and is looking to create a bidding war for his servi
ces). He should not be able to use a supposed PSU Offer as a bargaining chip in his auction.

Why shouldn’t he be able to do that?

 

[Nitt1300]

Why shouldn’t he be able to do that?

legally? no reason
ethically? every reason

 

[PSUForever]

The potential for '27 class is through the roof. PA, in general, is as loaded of a prospect list that I can remember in recent memory - let alone our other regional traditional areas.

The reality is can we keep these guys committed? And can we secure Hiller, Gregory, Robinson, Bonner, Smith, Kalis? This class has the potential to be top 5-ish - and I know we say that every year, lol. But it seems like Franklin has been able to secure one of these stacked classes every 3-4 years or so that we build around these "championship-potential" core classes.

A lot comes off the books at the end of this season - does the staff push chips in on the potential of the '27 class?

I think Spell is gone but we can easily survive that. Keep recruiting stud O linemen and get a solid 4 star RB and we are in excellent shape.

I would love to get the WR from Maryland, Myles McAfee, (97 composite rating, #5 WR overall) and considering us. OSU is in the mix as well so that could be a tough road to land him. There is also the CB out of Texas, John Meredith, who is the highest rated CB in the country (99 composite rating) and considering us and A&M as his top two.

Assuming we allocated a lot of NIL this year to retain our stars then we should have more money in the coffers to allocate to some of the top 100 or 200 HS recruits in the '27 class.

We really need to reload with a top 5 to 7 class like in 2022 so we have a core group that could help us make another strong run. These #15 classes are not going to cut it. I think the worst we can be is about #10 or #11. Worse than that makes it very difficult to keep up on a talent basis although we do develop talent well. Our portal acquisitions can help supplement the HS recruiting but lingering around a 15th ranked class I think is too low to realistically compete with teams perennially in the top 5 in recruiting.

 

[MacNit]

We are only pissed because we are on the losing end . Reality kind of sucks, but .......again , I think CJF does an awesome job of finding the next level diamonds in the rough and developing them . That's our style and I think it will take us places . You think NFL locker rooms have chemistry issues? Try that with a team loaded with 18 year old premies. It COULD....work , but I like what PSU is selling : integrity . Hard work, not bright flashy lights make a good football team ........ OK old man rant over !

Are we really selling that anymore?