No kiddingThis is tame to what Mullen and Hevesy would say
Are you certain that he never said it to his face?It’s not as much the substance as it is that he said it behind his back. Human nature to get mad about that. Whoever recorded it though. Please leave.
Yeah. Not a good look for Leach to be badmouthing a player leaving.It’s not as much the substance as it is that he said it behind his back. Human nature to get mad about that. Whoever recorded it though. Please leave.
Yeah. Not a good look for Leach to be badmouthing a player leaving.
That's going to happen.It’s not as much the substance as it is that he said it behind his back. Human nature to get mad about that. Whoever recorded it though. Please leave.
Are you certain that he never said it to his face?
That is the way I hear it also. It also sounds like a VM possibly to a recruit or another player telling them they could have a spot to play.I may be misinterpreting, but it sounds like Coach said he was’t tough because he was leaving.
It's obviously somebody who ain't got much for D.J. either. Otherwise, why would you share it with him if he was already out the door?
It really looks like we're having a mutiny on the pirate ship. If true, you've got to cut Woody even if he doesn't leave on his ownAllegedly, Woody is the player that recorded it and gave it to DJ and Leach was recruiting Woody to not get in the portal
Yeah no sit. GTFOH with that chicken sit recording.It’s not as much the substance as it is that he said it behind his back. Human nature to get mad about that. Whoever recorded it though. Please leave.
Exactly. Be less of a pushy, DJ.Doesn't what DJ posted about Leach sort of prove he isn't tough???
Heck he may have in practice, or a game...Are you certain that he never said it to his face?
I don’tThat's going to happen.
And we all know who it's going to be.
I don't expect a coach to have a lot of positives to say about a guy who's quitting on his team.It’s not as much the substance as it is that he said it behind his back. Human nature to get mad about that. Whoever recorded it though. Please leave.
I dont either. But you don’t need to get caught saying it. It’s just a bad look that we have to keep dealing with. DJ- right or wrong- will be fine.I don't expect a coach to have a lot of positives to say about a guy who's quitting on his team.
It shouldn't have been recorded, but it's the equivalent of me finding out that I was discussed in a meeting after I left a company. If I want to be part of the discussion I should stay. If I want to be subject of the discussion with no control over how I'm talked about/perceived, then leaving is a sure way to do that. Overall, bad look for DJ, business as usual for Leach. I agree with the poster who suggested that DJ proved he isn't tough by posting a whiny dear john letter.I dont either. But you don’t need to get caught saying it. It’s just a bad look that we have to keep dealing with. DJ- right or wrong- will be fine.
Are we 100% sure it was a player? It sounds like Leach is talking to a different group to me. Doesn't sound like phrasing he would make to a group of players. But I could be hearing it wrong.Yes, whoever recorded this and made it public needs to be run off. We don't need any back stabbers creating unnecessary drama regardless of who it is
17 this. The only relvevant thing is DJ's a Pu$$y getting gettin' bent outta shape for his smelly taint gettin' exposed. He needs to douche and move on and get the hell outta Dodge / Vegas.I dont either. But you don’t need to get caught saying it. It’s just a bad look that we have to keep dealing with. DJ- right or wrong- will be fine.
It’s not as much the substance as it is that he said it behind his back. Human nature to get mad about that. Whoever recorded it though. Please leave.
I had a new engineer, like fresh out of school, come back from lunch on DAY 1 and quit. Said he needed to spend some time and find himself. I was like, you are right here, dude...Several years ago I hired a guy for a senior level position. He quit after less than 6 months because he thought I was a meaneee. Somebody could have recorded what I called him and it was a lot worse than "not tough".
What was he supposed to say, though? “Yeah, Dillon Johnson is leaving….which is absolutely terrible because he’s our best running back who is irreplaceable by anyone (yourself included). But its just the way it is here at MSU….other schools have a little bit more money than we do, so if you decide to come here….you’ll probably get less than you would elsewhere.”
I don’t think he would use his full name if talking to a current player, but could be wrong. possibly a recruit ? Maybe nether?Are we 100% sure it was a player? It sounds like Leach is talking to a different group to me. Doesn't sound like phrasing he would make to a group of players. But I could be hearing it wrong.
I'm sure it was not easy for DJ to hear, but he could have been a part of a conversation with MSU running backs and he chose to be a quitter instead. He then responded very poorly, indicating that he might just be guilty of what he was accused of being. If Leach wanted to convey to any remaining RBs that being tough and sticking to something matters, then good. When you build a culture, you get people that respond to that culture. Some will leave, but the ones that come and stay will the right ones.He doesn’t have to say anything. People leave all the time. If we cant handle it without bashing them all we may need to look at our approach. I know all of us old people think it’s not a huge deal but thats not who the staff has to explain stuff like this to. Hopefully it indeed amounts to nothing.
If I told my manager I was quitting and then he went behind my back to tell people he was glad bc he didn’t think I worked hard Id probably be pissed too. And then you may have others who think “if he would say that about the brilliant 8dog, what’s he saying about me?”
Again I hope it’s nothing but I get DJ being mad. Went about it wrong.
Yes, Dillon is leaving. I hate to see him go, I know you guys push each other competitively and feed off of each other, but I still think we have a solid nucleus of backs here that can be as good or better next year.What was he supposed to say, though? “Yeah, Dillon Johnson is leaving….which is absolutely terrible because he’s our best running back who is irreplaceable by anyone (yourself included). But its just the way it is here at MSU….other schools have a little bit more money than we do, so if you decide to come here….you’ll probably get less than you would elsewhere.”
He is on the road recruiting. Be more awareLol @ Leach not even being around campus to talk to Woody and even if he is he can’t go speak to him face to face.