In all time wins amongst current coaches and we have losers on this board who think they know better than Leach how to coach a winning football team. Especially at programs that are historical losers.
How have you been frequenting message boards this long and not realized that it’s a place to discuss the pros and cons of the teams the board was create for? If you want 100% sunshine pumped up your butt and no dissenting opinions, then maybe you’re in the wrong place.In all time wins amongst current coaches and we have losers on this board who think they know better than Leach how to coach a winning football team. Especially at programs that are historical losers.
And yet, he's having the most success at MSU this year when he's finally doing what some of us have been calling for him to do ever since he got here, which is diversify the offense and run the ball more.In all time wins amongst current coaches and we have losers on this board who think they know better than Leach how to coach a winning football team. Especially at programs that are historical losers.
Sunshine? Is there no middle ground between sunshine and “it’s time to move on from the Leach experiment?How have you been frequenting message boards this long and not realized that it’s a place to discuss the pros and cons of the teams the board was create for? If you want 100% sunshine pumped up your butt and no dissenting opinions, then maybe you’re in the wrong place.
Read your original post again. You were complaining that people think they know more than Leach. You didn’t complain about the fire Leach crowd specifically. We do have middle ground. If you don’t want dissenting opinions, then the alternative is sunshine.Sunshine? Is there no middle ground between sunshine and “it’s time to move on from the Leach experiment?
I never said anything about sunshine. The guy is a proven winner and our fans can’t accept that he does things a different way
Funny how that happens…And yet, he's having the most success at MSU this year when he's finally doing what some of us have been calling for him to do ever since he got here, which is diversify the offense and run the ball more.
Funny how that happens…
2020: “Leach really needs to diversify the offense some. You can’t move the ball regularly when you ONLY pass”
2021: “Leach really needs to diversify the offense some. You can’t move the ball regularly when you ONLY pass”
2022: Leach runs the ball 10% more and the offense scores a **** ton of points “cant believe you message board geniuses think you know more than the 2nd winningest coach in CFB!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!!!”
I’m riding with The Pirate to 8-4 or 9-3 (hopefully) and enjoying the ride. Arrrgh.In all time wins amongst current coaches and we have losers on this board who think they know better than Leach how to coach a winning football team. Especially at programs that are historical losers.
How am I ignoring them? That’s not what you posted nor what I replied to.So you’re just going to ignore the part about the myriad posts calling for “moving on from the leach experiment”?
This is a hilarious take. Go back and look at the stats at Wazzu. Leach runs the ball when the defense gives it to him. Always has. He didn’t just start running the ball this year because he’s “seen the light.”And yet, he's having the most success at MSU this year when he's finally doing what some of us have been calling for him to do ever since he got here, which is diversify the offense and run the ball more.
This is a hilarious take. Go back and look at the stats at Wazzu. Leach runs the ball when the defense gives it to him. Always has. He didn’t just start running the ball this year because he’s “seen the light.”
Also no coincidence that our oline has looked better this year. Leach will run as long as it's gaining chunks. He will abandon it if we're getting 1-2 yard pileups.This is a hilarious take. Go back and look at the stats at Wazzu. Leach runs the ball when the defense gives it to him. Always has. He didn’t just start running the ball this year because he’s “seen the light.”
Leach had ONE year out of 8 at WSU where he ran the ball as often as he is this year. Overall, he ran the ball at WSU at the rate he did his first 2 seasons at MSU (28% run - 72% pass). This year, he's 35% run, 65% pass. Which is about what he should be for a pass-first offense.This is a hilarious take. Go back and look at the stats at Wazzu. Leach runs the ball when the defense gives it to him. Always has. He didn’t just start running the ball this year because he’s “seen the light.”
And I'm quite certain that the reason we are running more is that Leach regularly reads this board for advice. Let's all pat ourselves on the back.
Or maybe, just maybe, he has the guys capable of doing what they’re doing now?And yet, he's having the most success at MSU this year when he's finally doing what some of us have been calling for him to do ever since he got here, which is diversify the offense and run the ball more.
Yup!! ^17’ing this all day!Funny how that happens…
2020: “Leach really needs to diversify the offense some. You can’t move the ball regularly when you ONLY pass”
2021: “Leach really needs to diversify the offense some. You can’t move the ball regularly when you ONLY pass”
2022: Leach runs the ball 10% more and the offense scores a **** ton of points “cant believe you message board geniuses think you know more than the 2nd winningest coach in CFB!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!!!”
Sarcasm, you think? My whole point was that Leach never reads this board, and I wasn't implying that anyone has claimed such. But some seem to be implying that he has adjusted his offense due to some fan criticism. I'm just calling bull shat on that.Has anyone claimed that he has been reading it? It’s a message board to discuss sports. Holy crap people. What else are you expecting here?
Sarcasm, you think? My whole point was that Leach never reads this board, and I wasn't implying that anyone has claimed such. But some seem to be implying that he has adjusted his offense due to some fan criticism. I'm just calling bull shat on that.
Any chance that in 2020 and 2021 Leach was focused on installing his system and wasn’t worried about the immediate results those years?Funny how that happens…
2020: “Leach really needs to diversify the offense some. You can’t move the ball regularly when you ONLY pass”
2021: “Leach really needs to diversify the offense some. You can’t move the ball regularly when you ONLY pass”
2022: Leach runs the ball 10% more and the offense scores a **** ton of points “cant believe you message board geniuses think you know more than the 2nd winningest coach in CFB!1!1!!!!1!1!1!1!!!”
Any chance that in 2020 and 2021 Leach was focused on installing his system and wasn’t worried about the immediate results those years?
I hired what was supposed to be a proven contractor to build my house. I told that damn contractor on day one to put in the air conditioning. He kept insisting on other stuff first. Things he called foundation, framing, and roof. I told that dumb *** I’ve never seen a nice modern house without air conditioning. You can’t build a house without air conditioning anymore. That won’t work in the South. After telling him how to do it over and over for months, he finally installed air conditioning. And guess what, it works great. He should’ve listened to me on day one.
and Leach believed those 10-15 more reps for the QB and receivers were better for the long term success of the program. It was never about winning the most games possible in year one. It was about winning the most games possible.
Leach disagrees. All reps matter. Especially in year 1. More so when practice was very limited in year 1. Leach viewed year one and 2 as practice. He was trying to lay the foundation.But the point… is that those 10-15 reps don’t make a lick of difference in year 3. They only put us closer to losses in year 1.
How successful was the running game for WSU? Johnson is averaging 6 YPC and the team average is 4.2 with the QBs losing 68 yds. It would be 4.6 YPC with no sacks.Leach had ONE year out of 8 at WSU where he ran the ball as often as he is this year. Overall, he ran the ball at WSU at the rate he did his first 2 seasons at MSU (28% run - 72% pass). This year, he's 35% run, 65% pass. Which is about what he should be for a pass-first offense.
So...you think Leach has only just realized we need to run more.And yet, he's having the most success at MSU this year when he's finally doing what some of us have been calling for him to do ever since he got here, which is diversify the offense and run the ball more.
Man....I had hoped some folks faded away with the site transfer, but I guess he's always run under a sock.In all time wins amongst current coaches and we have losers on this board who think they know better than Leach how to coach a winning football team. Especially at programs that are historical losers.
Where’s the thumbs down button????Man....I had hoped some folks faded away with the site transfer, but I guess he's always run under a sock.
Pat wants credit for showing Leach the light, dammit. And he/she won‘t stop until they get it.This is a hilarious take. Go back and look at the stats at Wazzu. Leach runs the ball when the defense gives it to him. Always has. He didn’t just start running the ball this year because he’s “seen the light.”
He's lucky he has me to take advice from. **Pat wants credit for showing Leach the light, dammit. And he/she won‘t stop until they get it.