Loggains Running game plan is terrible

18IsTheMan

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That's being generous.

I guess it's partially not his fault. We were gutted when Marshawn left, but some our fans were actually expecting Joyner to be good. It defied logic.
 
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Tough to establish a running game when your OL is letting the DL through like running water and your backs aren’t big enough to run through tackles.

Again, may be a terrible hire, but tonight’s game isn’t a fair assessment.

It is a fair assessment. We have single digit rush yards and he's still trying to run the ball.
 

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That's being generous.

I guess it's partially not his fault. We were gutted when Marshawn left, but some our fans were actually expecting Joyner to be good. It defied logic.
With this OL, you could have Barry Sanders back there and he'd struggle. That said, not thrilled with the playcalling. 28 rushes, 2 yards.
 
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They're not going to completely abandon the run. Unfortunately this line is just bad. They're going to have to get creative to try and win some games this year.
 

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Tough to establish a running game when your OL is letting the DL through like running water and your backs aren’t big enough to run through tackles.

Again, may be a terrible hire, but tonight’s game isn’t a fair assessment.
This…..it wasn’t play calling. Guarantee he didn’t know oline was that bad until he saw it live. Now he has to adjust. Every team thinks the oline is good until they see it’s not.
 

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What Loggains is at fault for is pissing snaps away on run plays when it's obvious we can not run.
While somewhat true, still have to have the threat of the run cause the way Rattler had no time was bad enough. It was shocking how under duress he was when he caught the snap.

I would have said we should throe to the TEs right behind where the pressure was coming from, but NC was doing it with 3 & 4 down lineman
 

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Anyone who saw the game saw lineman blocking the wrong person, whiffing on blocks - disengaging on blocks and at lot of times three lineman blocking one guy and letting at least one NC defender go untouched into the backfield often getting into the backfield when the QB RB exchange took place - another was not mixing up the snap count - it looked like NC had the snap count timed perfectly which is also an indicator that the center was doing something to give it away - 95% of our problems were OLine related - when Rattler had a fraction of time to throw - he was effective- missing Juice hurt - never saw Harbor on the field (may have missed him) but the lack of physically was what lost the game.
 

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Do some of you not get it. It wasn't play calling, it wasn't the running backs, it wasn't Spencer. It was the freaking O-line. They couldn't run block or pass block. The Defense with a 3 man rush shut down the run game and had 9 sacks. That is what we have to fix ASAP.
 

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This…..it wasn’t play calling. Guarantee he didn’t know oline was that bad until he saw it live. Now he has to adjust. Every team thinks the oline is good until they see it’s not.
Unfortunately this was an issue last year also. Took us 7-8 games to adjust. The boy from Yale needs to be playing full time at guard. When they finally put him in, he played well.
 
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Anyone who saw the game saw lineman blocking the wrong person, whiffing on blocks - disengaging on blocks and at lot of times three lineman blocking one guy and letting at least one NC defender go untouched into the backfield often getting into the backfield when the QB RB exchange took place - another was not mixing up the snap count - it looked like NC had the snap count timed perfectly which is also an indicator that the center was doing something to give it away - 95% of our problems were OLine related - when Rattler had a fraction of time to throw - he was effective- missing Juice hurt - never saw Harbor on the field (may have missed him) but the lack of physically was what lost the game.
Exact same conversation we had last year.
 

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What Loggains is at fault for is pissing snaps away on run plays when it's obvious we can not run.
I get the frustration. But, it isn’t a fair assessment. You cannot completely abandon the run. Pass pro was already bad. Then you completely remove the idea we may try to run it, it gets worse.
 
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What Loggains is at fault for is pissing snaps away on run plays when it's obvious we can not run.

Would we like Spencer to make it to the UGA game? He was getting put on his back literally on almost every drop back. Like it or not the run game has to be attempted in some way, shape, or form.
 

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What young lineman do we have that we can go ahead and play.Might as well get experience for next year because the line is going to struggle no matter what.The injury to the LT is turning out to be devastating.
 

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So Loggains come to a Power 5 University that has no P5 rbs or P5 o-linemen and everything concerning the offensive is his fault. Wow, give it a break Bud!!!! 🤔

I think what's most concerning about this idea is that this staff is entering year 3, and we don't have a P5 RB or a P5 o-lineman.
 

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Last night was not a fair assessment of Loggains offensive.
Due to piss poor OL play, what we saw was a fire drill which turned into an actual 3 alarm fire for Rattler and the offense!
However, the OL coach and what he has produced was on full display and is deserving of a very short leash and a tour of the animal shelter to see the abandoned puppies!!!
 

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Would we like Spencer to make it to the UGA game? He was getting put on his back literally on almost every drop back. Like it or not the run game has to be attempted in some way, shape, or form.
One of those was textbook targeting on Rattler with ref staring at it. Wouldn’t have changed the game outcome but it was early 2nd Qtr. Our oline should have to stand there snd take hits like that in practice
 

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We had to run the ball to give rattler a break otherwise he’d be dead.
 

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It's likely Freddie Kitchens intel on our personnel and tendencies played a huge role in last night's destruction of our offense, in addition to our lead footed OL.
 
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It's likely Freddie Kitchens intel on our personnel and tendencies played a huge role in last night's destruction of our offense, in addition to our lead footed OL.
Probably more to do with not having an actual RB and a Swiss cheese OL. Having said that, we still had almost 400 yards. Sacks and stupid penalties killed red zone opportunities. Had the ball 3 times inside the 20 and came away with 3 points. Opportunities were there…even with the 9 sacks.

Even with the RB situation, there’s opportunity for the offense. Generally the most improvement happens between week 1 and 2. Now we know what we look like when the lights go on. Time to adjust and tweak. Let’s see what the coaches come up with.
 

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While somewhat true, still have to have the threat of the run cause the way Rattler had no time was bad enough. It was shocking how under duress he was when he caught the snap.

I would have said we should throe to the TEs right behind where the pressure was coming from, but NC was doing it with 3 & 4 down lineman
No. There was no threat of a run game, no matter if we pretended to run it or not. To run the ball was simply wasting snaps in a game where we could not afford to do so. Gott have a feel for the game and that was misssing.
 

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Probably more to do with not having an actual RB and a Swiss cheese OL. Having said that, we still had almost 400 yards. Sacks and stupid penalties killed red zone opportunities. Had the ball 3 times inside the 20 and came away with 3 points. Opportunities were there…even with the 9 sacks.

Even with the RB situation, there’s opportunity for the offense. Generally the most improvement happens between week 1 and 2. Now we know what we look like when the lights go on. Time to adjust and tweak. Let’s see what the coaches come up with.
What's the quick fix for a lead footed and confused OL?
 

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What's the quick fix for a lead footed and confused OL?
For one, they’re going to have to find 5 that will fight. I’d rather deal with blown assignments than getting your *** whipped for 60 minutes. Where da dawgs at?

They’re going to have to keep a back in to help. No way around that. Going to have to ask Simon and Knox to block more. Slide the pocket. There are options. I think they got caught off guard a little. It happens. Just shouldn’t happen twice.
 
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Thought u coaches would be casting the first stone at Tanner?
No we didn’t want Kenny Loggains when he was first mentioned. We needed a proven college OC. Once again we went cheap. Muschamp tried that
No run play was working with that oline. Not bad playcalling….lack of blocking left us with few options
coaching. All players can’t be that bad
Sorry, but sometimes it’s about what you inherited!! Can’t see how you can blame that on Loggains!! 🤷
there is no way every linemen we have is that bad. There is no way anybody outside our OC would think D Joyner could be a 1st or 2nd team RB in the SEC. No this is coaching