Look you bunch of defeatist pricks. WE asked for this, and now WE got it......

Goat Grindin

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so WE better learn to deal with it.<div>
</div><div>We wanted Templeton and his small-time ideas gone. We got it.</div><div>
</div><div>We wanted Croom and his simpleton football coaching gone. We got it.</div><div>
</div><div>We got a young, enthusiastic coach. We have an energized fanbase. We are donating money. Everything going in the right direction. We're beating Ole Miss. We got to a bowl game last year as an underdog program. We have expectations now.</div><div>
</div><div>And what do we do with it? Boo our own f*cking team. I thought we WANTED to get other teams' best shot? Don't we want to deal with the spotlight? Want to be considered a top level SEC team? Did you ignorant punks actually expect other teams to lay down for us? And now some of you have resorted to talking about how the jumbotron is boring. What. The. F*ck.</div><div>
</div><div>It's like none of you know anything about football. This **** is a marathon, not a sprint. Our goal is a bowl game, no matter how we get there. Our team is having trouble dealing with success. Which was anticipated if you have any semblance of a brain. Just growing pains. Support the team and quit bashing a damn good coach. It will be our idiot fans booing that would run Mullen off, not Penn State or Georgia. </div><div>
</div><div>****, Croom and even Jackie would have lost that game last night. Proof? See 1993. </div>
 

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so WE better learn to deal with it.<div>
</div><div>We wanted Templeton and his small-time ideas gone. We got it.</div><div>
</div><div>We wanted Croom and his simpleton football coaching gone. We got it.</div><div>
</div><div>We got a young, enthusiastic coach. We have an energized fanbase. We are donating money. Everything going in the right direction. We're beating Ole Miss. We got to a bowl game last year as an underdog program. We have expectations now.</div><div>
</div><div>And what do we do with it? Boo our own f*cking team. I thought we WANTED to get other teams' best shot? Don't we want to deal with the spotlight? Want to be considered a top level SEC team? Did you ignorant punks actually expect other teams to lay down for us? And now some of you have resorted to talking about how the jumbotron is boring. What. The. F*ck.</div><div>
</div><div>It's like none of you know anything about football. This **** is a marathon, not a sprint. Our goal is a bowl game, no matter how we get there. Our team is having trouble dealing with success. Which was anticipated if you have any semblance of a brain. Just growing pains. Support the team and quit bashing a damn good coach. It will be our idiot fans booing that would run Mullen off, not Penn State or Georgia. </div><div>
</div><div>****, Croom and even Jackie would have lost that game last night. Proof? See 1993. </div>
 

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were poor old Mississippi State please. Dan is getting paid serious dollar. We looked like **** last night. I'm glad everyone booed.
 

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you failed to mention that for TWO games in a row our coach, which I'm 100% behind, made the decision to NOT try and attempt to win the game at the end of the 4th quarter. I think its pretty natural for the fans to show a little frustration over at least that part of the game.
 

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i didn't boo and personally don't agree with it because it can be misconstrued, but I do understand the frustration with that series of plays.

Gears of War is awesome

the jumbotron was better utilized last season
 

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I booed because I was calling our plays before we ran them, and my football knowledge is subpar at best.

But I mainly booed because based in the past two games our coach has proven he's not a fighter. When the game is ending and a win is reachable but tough, Mullen tucks his tail and folds.
 
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These are men getting paid to coach a football team. Nobody was booing the players, everyone was booing the awful coaching and coaching decisions of the game. If they can't handle that, then what the 17 are they doing in the SEC coaching football or even coaching football period. I bet you are one of those moral victory types that was just happy we were in the game with LSU late in the game and cheered afterward. I support doing the Alma mater with them and supporting them, but to hell with cheering after a loss.

As far as the Jumbotron, I don't think the problem is really the Jumbotron commercials etc., it is the lack of music to pump up the crowd like we had last year. They used it very well last year. But yeah, the fans need to stay pumped a lot better than they have been. They take forever to get going.

I could understand if our team was just awful and our coaches tried to mask with any creativity but failed. Instead, we have coaches who run the same type of plays over and over expecting a different outcome (see insanity). I would not be nearly as dissappointed or let down if I thought they were coaching up to their own standards, but they simply are not doing that. This team is much better than they have played the previous 3 weeks.
 

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Do you really think a coach would just give up if there was a chance to win the game? I don't, but I guess I'm thinking too much. A good coach (which Mullen is, proven by his track record before now) always has a good reason for his actions. Everybody knows you play for overtime at home.
 

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I booed because running Relf up the middle was not working yet they continue to try and try and try to run right up the middle and get **** when you KNOW and SEE that your line can't even effectively block between the tackles. Then to end regulation they run Perkins five times in a row without even trying at the end to at least get the ball down the field for a chance to win with a field goal. The play calling is just baffling and they deserved to get booed.

Kiss my *** goat.
 

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The boo's came out when we kept running the same 2 plays right up the middle down by the goalline. It's the same 2 plays LA Tech stuffed all night, and LSU stuffed the whole game. Misdirection handoff to Ballard up the middle. QB draw right up the middle. There were no boo's directed at the players.
 

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We refused to throw the ball when we could have set ourselves up for a game winning FG attempt at the end of regulation YET we DO throw the ball in OT when there was absolutely no need to given we were already in easily makeable FG range after ending their possession with no score. It worked out but if Relf had thrown a pick instead of a TD in OT I would have been sick about it the whole rest of the season. Lately the coaching decisions in some key game situations have done nothing but left me dazed and confused.
 

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The LSU game - he clearly gave up. We had a 1% chance to win but it's a 2 score game. You try to score, use some timeouts and then kick an onside.

With 40 seconds left against LA Tech and 2 timeouts, I expect us to try and win. He said he wanted to be aggressive in OT with the pass but not be aggressive at the end of the game. It's really confusing.
 

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at the same time, we haven't looked prepared to play yet this season. We were even sloppy against Memphis. We spotted Auburn 14. We obviously weren't ready for LA tech. We just don't have the players and depth this year. We're just not that good. Is that grounds for booing? I don't know. I don't understand why all of a sudden there's no confidence in relf to be a real QB and our receivers just can't get open. </p>
 

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We won 9 games last year. We were #16th in the nation at one point this year. We laid an Egg against Auburn. We played scared against LSU. We got taken to 17in OT by La Tech and a 17 year old QB. And weshouldn'tbedisappointed?<div>
</div><div>Wake up man, Dan asked for this and HE is getting it. All the chest thumping, smack talking, billboard signage and our this and our that bull **** brings on expectations that whenaren'tmet induce harshcriticism.</div><div>
</div><div>I think this point must be made, Dandoesn'tmind the heat he is feeling after this week.I think he isprobablyasdisappointedas anyone. He is learning how to be a head coach and learning the hard way in certain areas such asrecruitingand overfuelingthe hype machine. I'm still backing him but thatdoesn'tmean I cant boo for leaving time outs on the board, bad play calling and not having your team ready to go. Hail State.</div>
 

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The fans are tired of the poor clock management and bad play calling. This is three games in a row that our coach has failed in one way or another at the end of the game. It all started with Auburn and the horrible clock management in last two minutes and some bad play calling. We just gave up vs LSU, the fans got tired of it and booed this Saturday for the same things...
 

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Sure you got the Bulldog faithful all together and fired up and treating you like 'family' but you can now see just how quickly it can turn on you.

It may not happen this year but if you ever do get an opportunity at a bigger program I would not blame you in the least for leaving. In fact, my advice to you is to take it quickly and don't look back.
 

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To say we don't have depth at all is retarded! OL & MLB are the ONLY spots we don't have depth at. What I saw after seeing the game live vs. TV is WR's not running good routes, OL (especially at the G and LT) shitting the bed a blocking and Charles Mitchell out of position. That's the difference between us being 4-0 and 2-2. Twice cMitch was didn't give help over the top in two games. And once it cost us the game and the other made all 55k in DWS's ******** tighten up! So far our biggest problem is the G spot on OL. That last play of the game for us Saulsberry tried to cut the DT and completely wiffed and #70 for Tech was about to bust Relf's *** and LUCKILY Perk ran his *** off on the wheel route. BTW, I called the play before the snap. We should get Carmon back this week, which will help make Saulsberry and Gabe not look so bad. Question is: will it make THAT big of an impact. People THAT'S WHY WE CAN'T RUN BETWEEN THE TACKLES! The G's are playing like ****! Dillon is playing okay, not terrible but not good either. We were in the red zone early in the game and Gabe didn't hit ANYBODY! Poor addison didn't know WHO to hit, his DE and the DT were BOTH free. He got his *** knocked off and it rushed the throw from Relf to Marcus and he missed the pass BAD! Gotta clean this **** up or we might be in SERIOUS trouble this year!
 

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Ok so he didn't use all the time outs at LSU at the end of the game, but what the 17 is the difference between a moral victory and winning the 17 game. Dan knew it was not enough time to score recover a onside kick and score again. Whats the difference between a 3 point lost and a 10 point lost, not a mother17 thing its still a L. Its this time loser mindset that sets us back. 17 moral wins a w is a w and a l is a l. Get above the lt and croom moral win ******** and have a winners attitude.
 

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So what you are saying is that if Dan was coaching Auburn in the waning minutes vs Utah State, he would have lost. He quit vs LSU plain and simple. If you are only down 2 scores and there is ANY time left, you keep trying because just as Auburn proved, anything can happen.
 

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It's a noise that voices displeasure. If there wasn't a mountain of things to be displeased about Saturday night, please tell me what game you were watching. These are rec league kids that should be coddled. These are competitors that play in the toughest conference in college football - led by a multi-millionaire. They can handled a little vocal kick in the *** every now and again. There's no way you could tell me that Alabama, LSU, OU, OSU, USC, etc. fans wouldn't do the same thing in a similar scenario.
 

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In fact, Mullen has been quoted at stating every coaching staff has an expiration date at any program. HCs end up pissing off half the fan base every x number of years and ultimately have little support left 10+ years down the road or so. Mullen is well aware of how the world works. It's no different at MSU than anywhere else. If anything, our "x number of years" is a year or two longer than the bigger program you suggest him to bolt for - see Sly Crooms.
 

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and I knew it would come out as soon as the first coach hit the mike on the post game show...."we came out flat...". I am so tired of hearing this **** I could scream at my mom in Sunday school. You are getting paid three million dollars a year to basically motivate 80 people only TWELVE DAYS a year (thirteen if we are lucky) and you roll out in those god-awful black jerseys (please burn these damn things by the way...thy are ugly and we play like they look in them) and the first excuse is "we came out flat"....... This kills me. I had rather scrub skid marks out of tighty whities than to hear this statement. This excuse should be completely thrown out the window and should not be tolerated by our fan base....which is why you heard the boos. I personally did not boo....I did however, curse loudly and vehemently at several things that even the most pedestrian football fan could see....

1. When your first 15 runs up the middle are unsuccessful...try something else.
2. When you position your corners 12-15 yards off of the ball....the muchkin QB will continue to complete the 7yard hitch and pic all night.
3. When your opponent has three people lined up on the outside, it normally takes three to cover them.....and yes, I realized we were in a zone, but the OLB had middle responsibility so there was a hole open....we had people out of position all night that almost cost us the game
4. I have seen three high school kickers that can nail the ball out of the back of the endzone.....recruit one of them or talk them into walking on....
5. Build more concession stands under the low deck....and throw in a few pissers while you are at it. Three concession lines for half of the west side are simply not enough.

I also took my frustrations out in the Junction as well. I saw two students dump their table which was full of empty cups, bottles and used plates, onto the grass between the *** end dawg and the field house. I took a roll of garbage bags and lobbed it grenade styly and hit one of the guys in the shoulder....it got the point across...he picked up the roll and started picking his **** up while his buddy stood there and watched. Pick up your **** people. You do not go to West Virginia.
 

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Especially as State is on TV more and more, is that, out of context, it looks really bad.

Your random Thursday night audience member doesn't have the same fan knowledge of the program that many here do.

And you can't count on the worldwide leader to populate the announcing booth with capable people, particularly those who can accurately relay the fans' frustration with the coaching staff and not the players.

The last thing a recruit or a potential media partner or a potential donor or a potential business partner needs to see and hear is Jesse Palmer or Herm Edwards or whoever saying "the boobirds are out and they're not happy with Relf."

I get it and I was floored with some of the play calls watching/listening at home (ANOTHER FREAKING PASS!?!? WHERE'S BALLARD? YOU'RE REALLY NOT GOING FOR THE WIN FROM THE 35 with 1.5 MINUTES?!?), but booing from the stands sends a really negative message and it's notsomething people, especially recruits, expect/want/need to see from a program that is on the rise and trying to build something special.

I get letting the coaching staff know how you feel, but you've got to be more accurate with your booing. Call in to the postgame and coach's shows. Post here. Call in to Finebaum if you have to, but booing while the players are on the field is scattershot and ends up hitting everyone.
 

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Goat Grindin said:
<span style="font-weight: bold;">Everybody knows you play for overtime at home.</span>
I'd like to know who told you that you ALWAYS play for overtime at home. I've never heard it before in my life.

Explain to me what the advantage of playing overtime instead of trying to win the game from THEIR 40 yard line with 40 seconds and 3 timeouts. Why would you even attempt to give them an opportunity to win with overtime.

This is the thing with college overtime. Each team gets the opportunity to score. We came out on top THIS WEEK, but why would you run out clock when we clearly had some momentum going into that last drive? Take a few shots deep. Run your two minute offense with some quick passes and some running... something (we have 3 timeouts) to the outside and chew up some yards. Worst that could happen is an interception deep on THEIR side of the field. Best thing that could happen is we get a good play in, score a touchdown or field goal and win the game in regulation. I personally didn't think we had a shot of winning this game in overtime. Thankfully we did.
 

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when you have a chance to go for two to win a game or something like that.

You don't play for overtime with 35 seconds left and two timeouts and just let the clock run to zero.
 

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Clock management this year is horrible.Our lack of depth in a physically brutal conference scares me. I did not boo, because I want the man to have reasons to stay when someone (rhymes with Georgia) decides to make him an offer during coach turnover time this year or next. I do know he is tryingto build something here and he needs an acceptable depth chart of qualityplayers badly. I know it's hard for MSU to recruit quality players in the best of times and we are not yet in the best of times. It disturbs me when the High School guys we want to recruit see angry fans and hear Boos when they come to campus or read about no-sayers and booers when they come here.

I have no idea why we are making so many mistakes right now. I thinkRelf is either hurt or really physically beat upat the moment, plus he has confidence problems. I alsoknow that Russel is not 100% and I wish he was because we need a good backup and we don't have that at the moment. I am suspicious that playing Favre today would be a mistake, unless we have no other option. I hear suspiciously bad things about him.

I ish we were playing like Bama or LSU. Then the booing wouldn't make me feel so bad.
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on our 15 with 23 seconds and 1 timeout, I probably wouldn't even take a shot. But we had ample opportunity to get in field goal range with the situation we were in. At LEAST 4 opportunities without time even being a factor.
 

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PBRME said:
The boo's came out when we kept running the same 2 plays right up the middle down by the goalline. It's the same 2 plays LA Tech stuffed all night, and LSU stuffed the whole game. Misdirection handoff to Ballard up the middle. QB draw right up the middle. There were no boo's directed at the players.
This is the reason for the booing. NOT at the TEAM. Yet again another 1st and Goal wasted on 2 runs up the middle, a half *** pass attempt at the corner of the endzone with bad timing, and a field goal. If you need proof, see the end of regulation against Arkansas last year, Auburn this year, LSU and now La Tech. All games where we tried to run it up the middle from 1st and Goal from the 7-9 yard line. <div>
</div><div>ROLL THE QUARTER BACK OUT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS!!! Simple. No way they stop Ballard on the Option outside 4 times in a row.

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