It's always a red flag if you have to tell someone how much to pay you. No, you tell me how much you value me. I wouldn't give LP an opportunity. I'd just show him. Here's how much I value you, and here's how it stacks up to your peers. And we'd go from there.
LP about to get that bag!
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It's the closest thing we've had to a sure thing that I can recall in any men's sport, aside from SOS (based on his previous success).
eh, I dunno. You can look at it both ways. I think it's the ultimate sign of respect to say "Name your price."
You ask because sometimes it's not always money. I deal with this all the time with my employees. 90% it's about money but there are exceptions
It's very possible he says something like, pay me what you think I'm worth but I need big raises for my assistants, or i need a bigger recruiting budget. He may say that a long term contract is more important than a huge $$'s. You really need to understand what he wants and what is going to make him happy.
The SEC was hot garbage back then. That's how we went 10-6 in the SEC and didn't make it. Then got bounced in the 1st round of the NIT. It was the Devan Downey show. Horn inherited a good team. LP has BUILT a great team.
But your last point is the best, and absolutely true. You never know if you were right or wrong until it's too late.
Lamont strikes me as too easy-going for this to become a difficult negotiation.
Thankfully, his agent is not Jimmy Sexton.
Thankfully, his agent is not Jimmy Sexton.
In your opinion. I'd be thrilled if my boss came and asked me to name my price. It's actually fairly common in my industry. I've had several colleagues go from the federal workforce to the private sector and they were asked their desired salary.
Well, yeah. But I would hope RT knows him well enough by now to know what was important to him. I had an employee once that loved concerts. Dude was underpaid and didn't care bc I would buy him concert tickets a few times a year.
One of the things that stands out about Paris is that he, in essence, had to replace about 75% of the team (due to transfer and graduation) when he got here. It's similar to Josh Heupel at Tennessee football having to replace an unusually high number of players who transferred when he got there.
The colleagues I've known who stated their desired salary, and they all overshot what they actually wanted, had their proposals accepted.
It's just starting the negotiation from the other side. Either the boss makes and offer and you counter or you name a price and they counter.
My brother is a lawyer and went through the same thing when he started with his current company years ago. They asked him during the interview what his desired salary was.
It's pretty common.
I guess the flip side is he could ask for less than you were going to pay anyway. Who knows. I've just always found it much more beneficial to control that negotiation.
I will say this: I'm not surprised that Lamont will get a very nice new contract. If the "powers" think they have a really good one, they won't let that person get away (Example: Dawn Staley).
I'm not terribly worried, but OSU is a wild card. Not everyone has that draw to "go home again" though. Also, I think Dawn is our top chip here. She didn't blink about the UVA job a few years ago. And she left her hometown school as an extremely successful head coach to come here in the first place. So she spurned both her hometown and her alma mater to be here.
LP is staying if we treat him fairly, and I think we will.
I’m sorry, but in MHO, although I hope we don’t and I definitely don’t think we will, even if the guys lost both remaining regular season games and went one and out in the SEC tournament, this should be considered a hugely successful season and Paris would still deserve a good raise!
I think Dawn really likes LP, and I think she could be influential on selling LP a "twin towers" vision of what Gamecock Basketball could be between WBB and MBB.
That's right. The well has been poisoned a little bit. Ain't no use pretending as though it hasn't.
I've dealt with a lot of employees over the years as well, but I'm not sure any of those interactions are very relevant to the situation Tanner is going to face with Paris. The financial concerns of my employees were along the lines of how to pay for their kids' college, how to retire comfortably, how to pay for the care of an aging parent, etc. I've never sat down with an employee who was already making over $2m per year and discussed whether he thought a $1.5m raise was fair, or if he would need a $3m raise to stay with the organization. If some of y'all have had employee discussions involving those types of dollar-figures, more power to you. I'm just not sure many of us really understand what motivates coaches at this elite level. It certainly isn't about lifestyle - a $5m-per-year coach in Columbus, OH, doesn't live that differently than a $3m-per-year coach in Columbia. If it's about legacy and prestige, what is better, to coach for 20-30 years at a place that loves you like a god, or to be one in a long line of great coaches at a blue-blood program? Hard to say and every coach is going to be different. Or maybe some of them are chasing whatever their agent says is the best deal.
The bottom line is Tanner has to decide which is the worst fate: To overpay and run the risk that you have to pay off an absurd buyout in a few years, or underpay and run the risk that you let the next Coach K or Dean Smith get hired away from you? I'm as fiscally conservative as they come, but I think the 2nd outcome is the worst of the two for an SEC basketball program.
The bottom line is Tanner has to decide which is the worst fate: To overpay and run the risk that you have to pay off an absurd buyout in a few years, or underpay and run the risk that you let the next Coach K or Dean Smith get hired away from you? I'm as fiscally conservative as they come, but I think the 2nd outcome is the worst of the two for an SEC basketball program.
Agree with your last sentence. Letting him go due to under-paying could be a death sentence for Tanner.