Makes you want to be a teacher doesn't it

[Guy in the Back]

Public schools are over with as far as I’m concerned. The Private sector will take over from here.

Let the private sector take it over. If they have to teach ALL students, people will find out quickly that the schools themselves aren’t the biggest problem.

Teaching kids from a privileged background and involved parents has its own issues sometimes. Teaching students that are raising themselves and siblings, students that work 35-40 hours a week because they have to, students that are being raised by a sibling that may be 5 years older than they are, students who have parents consistently stung out or drunk, or students who have no parents that place value on education is another. As I said before, we have a breakdown in the moral fabric of our society; that is the biggest issue.

I love my job and I know that over the course of my 23 years I have positively impacted many kids. There are also many kids that I lose sleep over because I just didn’t know how to help them.

All that to say, if you think you have some solutions to real issues and not those you think you know, volunteer at your local school. I’ll guarantee you they’ll appreciate the help.

 

[Guy in the Back]

How about helping find those “resource“ teachers in Spartanburg. My grandson needs math help…5th grade. My daughter has called the school several times asking if they even know people that will tutor if we pay for it. Has asked for extra help like staying after school maybe with someone who teaches math. They just tell her they don’t have anyone and don’t know of anyone. Hell they had that when I was in school Decades ago…

I guess we’ll check out a Sylvan Learning center or something like it….my point is they seem very disinterested

I don’t know what district your grandson is in, but have your daughter reach out to the high school(s) guidance department. Ask if they have anyone in their teacher education program that may be interested in tutoring for pay. Can’t guarantee that will happen, but we encourage our kids interested in education to tutor (if they have the time).

 

[Bubba Fett]

Seriously, if you have kids in a public school, get out. Charter, private, homeschool... Whatever it takes.

 

[frank.bank]

I read in an article that the animal was in an IEP(Individualized Education Program), which likely means he was already a troublemaker or a sub-par student.

 

[Guy in the Back]

For the most part, schools have no rules and no discipline or measures in place designed to effectively correct misconduct regardless of the identity of the offender - particularly if the offender identifies as one of the protected groups. Which is very much like how the newly adopted United States legal system operates.

Not far off. If one of subgroups of focus are “over disciplined”, the school will get dinged.

 

[KingWard]

I have two daughters who are teachers and one son-in-law. They teach from a state mandated(Georgia) curriculum structured to have students pass state mandated end of term tests to measure subject learning. The curriculums were developed by committees composed of principals, curriculum folks, teachers and parents. There's not a lot of wiggle room. Teachers are anxious for their students to pass those tests because they are evaluated on student learning. Teachers have a ton of paper work to deal with much, if not most, surpurpolus. Unfortunately, there are times when 1-2 parents attempt to impose their will on the rest of the class and dictate how things ought to be. And of course parents take exception to how their child is disciplined. Teachers are under a lot of pressure and politicians trying to gain points with their constituency is making it worse.

That is the same here, and I expect, in districts almost everywhere. Education is absolutely an area in which "progress" has been regressive. Resources are apportioned unduly away from the classroom teacher, canted toward curriculum people always looking for something new for the teacher to implement.

Nothing was ever perfect, or is ever going to be. However, I believe with all my heart that I had a better school experience than my grandkids had.

 

[Lurker123]

Not far off. If one of subgroups of focus are “over disciplined”, the school will get dinged.

This is truly unfortunate, but I've come to believe it's intentional.

Meaning it comes across as intentionally stirring the pot instead of trying to fix anything.

 

[18IsTheMan]

If the races were reversed…holy smokes.

 

[Lurker123]

Although I agree with you, I don't think it's realistic/sustainable for parents to question teachers. These questions need to flow through a non-teacher / district staff to decide if a particular lesson should be taught. Teachers can't have half the classes parents questioning them about a lesson being taught.

I see the idea about funneling the complaints through a central source. It can't be a black hole where questions go to die though.

Got give KW credit here, I think he hit the nail on the head with the distinction between subjects and topics.

It's obvious there are subjects that need teaching. No one is going to argue that you can't or shouldnt teach math. Start teaching that 1+1=2 is racist, and we should have questions. (For an extreme example)

 

[18IsTheMan]

Some on Twitter, ate actually semi-defending the kid saying she violated his constitutional rights by confiscating his personal property.

 

[Freddie.B.Cocky]

To who? The ones causing most of the problems/crimes? Thank the good lord I live in an area where we don't have those kinds of problems. If we ever do, I'm moving to the upper Midwest, Minnesota, Michigan or Wisconsin to stay one step ahead.

A couple of years ago, it was becoming en-vouge to move to downtown areas in large urban cities. Well the crime has stayed. During Covid-19 you started seeing the shift of people moving to rural America since they could take their work with them.

The South is such a hot bed for transplants that the quaint towns are now not so quaint anymore. The rural areas are either undesirable due to poverty, lack of good education (no offense to people who live in Orangeburg) or overcrowded with transplants trying to change the culture (Brevard, NC, Hendersonville, NC, Landrum, SC, Travelers Rest SC, Jonesborough TN, etc).

I think at some point, you may see a white flight going to places like Wyoming, Montana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas. Eastern Washington, Idaho. jus saying. I won't live in any area where I have to worry about: porch pirates, shootings, drug dealing, carjackings, unruly schools. I guess I live in a bubble, but I'm glad I live in Upper East TN. Much rather live with Mountaineers and Hillbillies than inner city thugs.

Boy howdy, if things were to get that bad it (we are a pretty nice town) I'm heading to your neck of the woods. People use to look at that area as a hillbilly region but they haven't lived there. It's a super nice region.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

I’d like to see one politician have to submit his/her work plans to an outside group for their daily review. Most of these toads haven’t been in a classroom with todays students yet they want to run daily activities. It is ridiculous.

I can’t speak for all schools, but I haven’t been part of one that had an indoctrination agenda. I hate that it may be happening in some places that have made folks think it is happening in the majority of places.

I do agree however that we have “dumbed” down the process. No Child Left Behind was a great idea, but was a complete failure. It also led to our current situation. Graduation rate became a huge factor in accountability, and along with the removal of the Exit Exam, schools could begin to manipulate the process. We removed Tech Prep classes and tried to force everyone into college. We stopped retaining kids at early ages when they couldn’t read, even when the teacher and parent know it shouldn’t happen. People think they understand, but every bit of that falls on federal and state lawmakers that punishes schools for things such as a kid that doesn’t graduate in four years, a kid that is retained as a third grader even though they read on a kindergarten level, or even a special education student that the school prepares them for the workforce but may not meet diploma criteria.

I also agree that as educators, we are sometimes our own worst enemies. I have worked with some folks that had no business in a classroom. The overwhelming majority of teachers do genuinely care about what they do and their students’ success and will work their tails off for their kids. It is unfortunate that a growing faction of our society has so little regard for teacher or an education in general.

These!

 

[Forkcock]

My Dad was a district superintendent when he retired. My mom was a teacher. My grandmother was a teacher. My cousin was a teacher. As stated above, my daughter and granddaughter are both teachers. I can assure you, none of them is or was part of the "problem".

My Mom taught me in fourth grade - OLD school. I can tell you when the problem started, at least in our part of the country, but that would result in the locking of the thread. I don't want to be the one who causes that.

I aver that the problem started in other parts of the country with the rise of the teacher unions.

King,

Your history is similar to mine. My dad was an elementary school principal - 34 years (he hated the teachers union). Two of my dad's sisters were teachers, several of my cousins are. My uncle was even the district purchasing agent.

I, like you, know that none of my family members had any hand in this, but a good number of teachers have.

 

[Prestonyte]

Some on Twitter, ate actually semi-defending the kid saying she violated his constitutional rights by confiscating his personal property.

Guns, drugs and cell phones are personal property - as are "offensive" clothing, hats, and peanut butter sandwiches, etc.

 

[Cocky99]

There are High Schools and even Middle Schools that wouldn’t be on my wish list to work at if I were a teacher.

 

[TheRoo]

He was stated to be a special needs kid with mental issues. If so, fault lies directly with the school system itself. At his size and with these impulses, he's a security risk to anyone.

 

[Guy in the Back]

He was stated to be a special needs kid with mental issues. If so, fault lies directly with the school system itself. At his size and with these impulses, he's a security risk to anyone.

How so?

 

[TheRoo]

How so?

Do you not believe there should be guard rails for staff to prevent situations like this? My close friend's mom worked with special needs kids at a Charleston HS and had a very similar situation happen to her. She didn't opt for legal recourse but still received signficant compensation from the board for negligence.

 

[athenscock3]

Let the private sector take it over. If they have to teach ALL students, people will find out quickly that the schools themselves aren’t the biggest problem.

Teaching kids from a privileged background and involved parents has its own issues sometimes. Teaching students that are raising themselves and siblings, students that work 35-40 hours a week because they have to, students that are being raised by a sibling that may be 5 years older than they are, students who have parents consistently stung out or drunk, or students who have no parents that place value on education is another. As I said before, we have a breakdown in the moral fabric of our society; that is the biggest issue.

I love my job and I know that over the course of my 23 years I have positively impacted many kids. There are also many kids that I lose sleep over because I just didn’t know how to help them.

All that to say, if you think you have some solutions to real issues and not those you think you know, volunteer at your local school. I’ll guarantee you they’ll appreciate the help.

You are correct on many points. Public schools have become the catch all to make up for so many things that used to be taken care of in the home. Yes. Private schools cherry pick their students and can reject the tough cases. Public schools don't have that option. They have to serve the children that come through the doors. My wife has been a principal in an inner city school and in an affluent school district. In the inner city kids say "My mama is gonna come down here and beat you up". In the affluent community kids say "Our lawyer will be calling you".

 

[Guy in the Back]

Do you not believe there should be guard rails for staff to prevent situations like this? My close friend's mom worked with special needs kids at a Charleston HS and had a very similar situation happen to her. She didn't opt for legal recourse but still received signficant compensation from the board for negligence.

I absolutely believe there should be protection. As a principal, my number one job is safety for all that enter my building. The problem is I can only control so much. Schools and districts must play within the laws of IDEA. By law, all students are required to have access to a Free and Appropriate Public Education (FAPE) in the least restrictive environment. This includes students that can or have been persistently dangerous.

As far as the mental problems, the shutdown damaged our kids more than just the loss of instruction. In fact, I think I read that the first year back, fights were up 30% nationwide. Kids can’t communicate, and many don’t live in a home where someone spends time talking to them.

My SRO is a veteran and has spent his entire career working the road. Around Christmas he told me he did not realize the stuff that schools have to do for kids that aren’t related to learning.

My point is everyone blames the school, without knowing how often funding rules or legislation is the underlying issue.

 

[Cocks rule]

Let the private sector take it over. If they have to teach ALL students, people will find out quickly that the schools themselves aren’t the biggest problem.

Teaching kids from a privileged background and involved parents has its own issues sometimes. Teaching students that are raising themselves and siblings, students that work 35-40 hours a week because they have to, students that are being raised by a sibling that may be 5 years older than they are, students who have parents consistently stung out or drunk, or students who have no parents that place value on education is another. As I said before, we have a breakdown in the moral fabric of our society; that is the biggest issue.

I love my job and I know that over the course of my 23 years I have positively impacted many kids. There are also many kids that I lose sleep over because I just didn’t know how to help them.

All that to say, if you think you have some solutions to real issues and not those you think you know, volunteer at your local school. I’ll guarantee you they’ll appreciate the help.

Opening private academic institutions dedicated to teaching math, personal finance, trade skills and accelerated classes for the gifted should be the model going forward. Get government and kids that don’t want to be there out of schools. It’s that simple. Make school a privilege for those that want and desire education.

 

[Guy in the Back]

Opening private academic institutions dedicated to teaching math, personal finance, trade skills and accelerated classes for the gifted should be the model going forward. Get government and kids that don’t want to be there out of schools. It’s that simple. Make school a privilege for those that want and desire education.

Well, that is exactly what we do at our public school. We teach the typical math courses along with personal finance (although the state has mandated it now). We offer AP courses in every subject, dual enrollment opportunities at two local higher education schools as well as offer some on campus (kids can graduate with an Associate’s in addition to their diploma), trade skills at our technology center (can get workplace certification in areas such as welding, cosmetology, construction, auto repair and mechanics, fire and law enforcement, prerequisite classes for engineering, nursing, and veterinary services, and more).

Only difference is we do it for all. But to your point, I have a teacher from another country teaching in my building. He and I have talked about the difference in how education is valued here versus other countries. Privilege vs. Right.

 

[Hobcawcreekcock]

Teacher unions have very little to do with improving education, merit and raises based on performance. They’re mainly to support liberal politicians, to provide the ability to strike, get paid better, but not much to do with improvements and accountability for the students they are supposed to TEACH. My Mom taught English for almost 50 years, her sister taught for almost as long. Both in Richland District 1. My daughter teaches in Charleston County. Last Thanksgiving the district forbid teachers from referring to Thanksgiving involving the words ‘Indians and Pilgrims’. Crap like this is where education has gone off the rails. Just 10 years ago schools were presenting Thanksgiving skits based of what Thanksgiving is ALL ABOUT. Indigenous and Caucasian immigrants sharing food to avoid starvation. Such an awful story all of a sudden, where educators were forbid from talking about the reason our country celebrates THANKSGIVING! My Mom is rolling over in her grave!!!

 

[Cocks rule]

Well, that is exactly what we do at our public school. We teach the typical math courses along with personal finance (although the state has mandated it now). We offer AP courses in every subject, dual enrollment opportunities at two local higher education schools as well as offer some on campus (kids can graduate with an Associate’s in addition to their diploma), trade skills at our technology center (can get workplace certification in areas such as welding, cosmetology, construction, auto repair and mechanics, fire and law enforcement, prerequisite classes for engineering, nursing, and veterinary services, and more).

Only difference is we do it for all. But to your point, I have a teacher from another country teaching in my building. He and I have talked about the difference in how education is valued here versus other countries. Privilege vs. Right.

You’re mandated to teach much more than that wasting kids time and taking away from the base core that matters. The mandated part is why schools are going private. Efficiency is paramount and keeping the satanic pedophilia out along with leftist propaganda. It’s about saving our youth.

 

[Guy in the Back]

Teacher unions have very little to do with improving education, merit and raises based on performance. They’re mainly to support liberal politicians, to provide the ability to strike, get paid better, but not much to do with improvements and accountability for the students they are supposed to TEACH. My Mom taught English for almost 50 years, her sister taught for almost as long. Both in Richland District 1. My daughter teaches in Charleston County. Last Thanksgiving the district forbid teachers from referring to Thanksgiving involving the words ‘Indians and Pilgrims’. Crap like this is where education has gone off the rails. Just 10 years ago schools were presenting Thanksgiving skits based of what Thanksgiving is ALL ABOUT. Indigenous and Caucasian immigrants sharing food to avoid starvation. Such an awful story all of a sudden, where educators were forbid from talking about the reason our country celebrates THANKSGIVING! My Mom is rolling over in her grave!!!

Not a fan of teacher unions. Also not a fan of merit pay unless it is based on individual student growth targets and not overall scores. Straight overall performance punishes teaches who get kids that are behind. It also isn’t fair that the pay would be based on one test on one day.

For example, I have an adopted child whose birth mom was on opiates while she was pregnant. He had early hearing and speech issues which causes him reading issues. It took him 3 years to get to grade level. His teachers did great with him, but until now he’d never score well on a test.

 

[Guy in the Back]

You’re mandated to teach much more than that wasting kids time and taking away from the base core that matters. The mandated part is why schools are going private. Efficiency is paramount and keeping the satanic pedophilia out along with leftist propaganda. It’s about saving our youth.

Since you are the expert, tell me what else I am mandated to teach, waste time, what propaganda I teach, and how I am a satan loving pedophile.

 

[Cocks rule]

Since you are the expert, tell me what else I am mandated to teach, waste time, what propaganda I teach, and how I am a satan loving pedophile.

I don’t know you friend but I do know by defending the entire public school system you are a part of the problem. Maybe you don’t keep up with what’s happening in public schools so you might wanna do a little research. I’m sure there are many well intentioned teachers caught up in this. My mom taught for 35+ years in SC retired over 20 years ago. She was disappointed in what it had evolved into back then. My kids graduated 16 and 18 years ago from Dorman successfully with no brain damage but their kids face a much bigger challenge and will not attend public schools. Thank God other parents are coming together and starting charter, private and non government community schools. Parents will eliminate this toxic environment for their children because that’s what real parents do. They protect and give their children the best chance to thrive and excel.

 

[The Reel Ess]

17 huh? He can continue his education in prison. My wife is a semi-retired SC public school teacher. I typed up a long reply but I realized it will ruffle feathers so I'll pare it down.

The real issues in our society can only be addressed by telling people inconvenient truths. No politician is going to tell people they're failing their own children, so the issue only worsens. Over and over we see them grasping for ideas to fix the problem and intentionally ignoring the obvious. I know how to fix it, but it involves parents and guardians giving a damn. And many do not.

 

[GatorlandGamecock]

Where in God's name did this happen?!

I didn't read the entire thread but it happened in Palm Coast Florida. He was a "special needs" student and she was a teachers aide. If he is competent he will stand trial as an adult because he is almost 18. He also states he would do it again.

 

[Dod Rangerfield]

I didn't read the entire thread but it happened in Palm Coast Florida. He was a "special needs" student and she was a teachers aide. If he is competent he will stand trial as an adult because he is almost 18. He also states he would do it again.

Needs to be put down.

 

[Guy in the Back]

I don’t know you friend but I do know by defending the entire public school system you are a part of the problem. Maybe you don’t keep up with what’s happening in public schools so you might wanna do a little research. I’m sure there are many well intentioned teachers caught up in this. My mom taught for 35+ years in SC retired over 20 years ago. She was disappointed in what it had evolved into back then. My kids graduated 16 and 18 years ago from Dorman successfully with no brain damage but their kids face a much bigger challenge and will not attend public schools. Thank God other parents are coming together and starting charter, private and non government community schools. Parents will eliminate this toxic environment for their children because that’s what real parents do. They protect and give their children the best chance to thrive and excel.

Go back and look at my posts. I have not defended the entire system. If fact there were issues that I pointed out. Ironically you are trashing the entire system based on what you think you know.

I do not disagree that there are people in or associated with education that have no business doing so. There are a few teachers/admin/districts here and there that may try to push an agenda, but it isn’t as prevalent as it is made out to be…at least not in SC. As far as research, I believe being this being my 23rd year in education provides me with insight you do not have.

I also have an issue with “real parents”. I choose to send my two kids to public school. I am involved. I ask questions. I attend parent conferences. I do homework with them every night. We eat supper together everyday (unless I have a late night). I talk to my kids. I play with my kids. Is that not what “real parents” do? If not, you probably insulted 2/3 of the board that have school-aged children.

I still want to know what you think we are mandated to teach, how we are satanic pedophiles, and what propaganda the state of SC is telling us to teach.

As far as me being the problem I’d bet 99% of the kids I taught or coached would not agree. That is why I do what I do.

 

[Cocks rule]

Go back and look at my posts. I have not defended the entire system. If fact there were issues that I pointed out. Ironically you are trashing the entire system based on what you think you know.

I do not disagree that there are people in or associated with education that have no business doing so. There are a few teachers/admin/districts here and there that may try to push an agenda, but it isn’t as prevalent as it is made out to be…at least not in SC. As far as research, I believe being this being my 23rd year in education provides me with insight you do not have.

I also have an issue with “real parents”. I choose to send my two kids to public school. I am involved. I ask questions. I attend parent conferences. I do homework with them every night. We eat supper together everyday (unless I have a late night). I talk to my kids. I play with my kids. Is that not what “real parents” do? If not, you probably insulted 2/3 of the board that have school-aged children.

I still want to know what you think we are mandated to teach, how we are satanic pedophiles, and what propaganda the state of SC is telling us to teach.

As far as me being the problem I’d bet 99% of the kids I taught or coached would not agree. That is why I do what I do.

Greenwood Co. teacher facing child sex crimes charges

A teacher in Greenwood County has been arrested and is facing multiple child sex crimes charges.

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She faces charges from both the Columbia Police Department and the Forest Acres Police Department for allegedly having an inappropriate relationship with

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Upstate teacher charged with child sex crimes out of TX, deputies say

Greenwood School District 52 announced that a teacher assigned to Edgewood Middle School was recently charged by the Greenwood County Sheriff’s Office.

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The "unusual" behavior between an Upstate school employee and a minor led to the employee's arrest and her being fired, according to authorities in Oconee County.

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I can do this all day. Bottom line most teachers today are not equipped to teach but to indoctrinate and way to many predators. The charter school that will begin next school year where my grandson will begin his education is staffed with teachers who left the public schools where equity, indoctrination and the young sideshow looking characters took over. Most teachers are 50-68 years old and are the best of the best loving what they do and are highly decorated educators. We’re extremely happy and grateful this came together as the school system here is a nightmare.

 

[Guy in the Back]

Greenwood Co. teacher facing child sex crimes charges

A teacher in Greenwood County has been arrested and is facing multiple child sex crimes charges.

www.wspa.com

SC High School Teacher Charged with Sexual Battery for Relationship with Students - Brody Law Firm

She faces charges from both the Columbia Police Department and the Forest Acres Police Department for allegedly having an inappropriate relationship with

www.bernardbrody.com

Upstate teacher charged with child sex crimes out of TX, deputies say

Greenwood School District 52 announced that a teacher assigned to Edgewood Middle School was recently charged by the Greenwood County Sheriff’s Office.

www.foxcarolina.com

https://amp.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article257063007.html

'Unusual behavior' with minor leads to Upstate school employee's arrest, deputies say

The "unusual" behavior between an Upstate school employee and a minor led to the employee's arrest and her being fired, according to authorities in Oconee County.

www.wyff4.com

South Carolina teacher allegedly rubbed sanitizer on student’s open wound, smacked students in back of head: warrants

HORRY COUNTY, S.C. (WBTW) — A judge granted bond for an Horry County Schools special education teacher who allegedly rubbed hand sanitizer on a student’s open wound and smacked students…

myfox8.com

I can do this all day. Bottom line most teachers today are not equipped to teach but to indoctrinate and way to many predators. The charter school that will begin next school year where my grandson will begin his education is staffed with teachers who left the public schools where equity, indoctrination and the young sideshow looking characters took over. Most teachers are 50-68 years old and are the best of the best loving what they do and are highly decorated educators. We’re extremely happy and grateful this came together as the school system here is a nightmare.

Again, never said there aren’t bad apples just like they are in private schools and charter schools. In fact I said previously there were and that often educators are our own worst enemy. But I also know that that number is a small portion of quality folks who pour their heart and soul into every child they teach.

Over the years I have taught with probably 200 folks. Not one I taught with was ever accused of anything like that or any other illegal activity.

The problem with education is not what you keep presenting, the schools themselves. The problem is societal and legislative. As a whole, parents aren’t involved with their kids like they were even 5 years ago. Discipline requires jumping through hoops, and is often the teacher’s fault and not the kid. Legislation has lowered the expectations for students while raising them for schools (not an good combo). We have a growing population that does not value education (got worse when kids worked during the Covid shutdown). Are where we need to be, no. Is it a disaster, no.

I’ll also tell you this…as a principal, I have been working on building a partnership with one of our local industries. The HR director and I talked about the challenges they are facing with employees. It is the same we are with our students…want to work when they want, show up late, and can’t stay of their phones.

We as a country have lost our moral and ethical compass.

 

[Cocks rule]

Again, never said there aren’t bad apples just like they are in private schools and charter schools. In fact I said previously there were and that often educators are our own worst enemy. But I also know that that number is a small portion of quality folks who pour their heart and soul into every child they teach.

Over the years I have taught with probably 200 folks. Not one I taught with was ever accused of anything like that or any other illegal activity.

The problem with education is not what you keep presenting, the schools themselves. The problem is societal and legislative. As a whole, parents aren’t involved with their kids like they were even 5 years ago. Discipline requires jumping through hoops, and is often the teacher’s fault and not the kid. Legislation has lowered the expectations for students while raising them for schools (not an good combo). We have a growing population that does not value education (got worse when kids worked during the Covid shutdown). Are where we need to be, no. Is it a disaster, no.

I’ll also tell you this…as a principal, I have been working on building a partnership with one of our local industries. The HR director and I talked about the challenges they are facing with employees. It is the same we are with our students…want to work when they want, show up late, and can’t stay of their phones.

We as a country have lost our moral and ethical compass.

You couldn’t have said it better. You can’t run a school correctly with government involvement! This must end and the only way to end it is with parental involvement. You better believe many parents are fully involved and the numbers are growing rapidly. I expect with this awakening thousands of new schools will be started and hopefully when the public schools are near empty, school choice will be prevalent in most states and we will see the end of gov run schools. Because as we all know government screws everything up and while we sit back lazily and accept most of it, when it comes to our kids that’s not an option.

 

[Cocks rule]

Again, never said there aren’t bad apples just like they are in private schools and charter schools. In fact I said previously there were and that often educators are our own worst enemy. But I also know that that number is a small portion of quality folks who pour their heart and soul into every child they teach.

Over the years I have taught with probably 200 folks. Not one I taught with was ever accused of anything like that or any other illegal activity.

The problem with education is not what you keep presenting, the schools themselves. The problem is societal and legislative. As a whole, parents aren’t involved with their kids like they were even 5 years ago. Discipline requires jumping through hoops, and is often the teacher’s fault and not the kid. Legislation has lowered the expectations for students while raising them for schools (not an good combo). We have a growing population that does not value education (got worse when kids worked during the Covid shutdown). Are where we need to be, no. Is it a disaster, no.

I’ll also tell you this…as a principal, I have been working on building a partnership with one of our local industries. The HR director and I talked about the challenges they are facing with employees. It is the same we are with our students…want to work when they want, show up late, and can’t stay of their phones.

We as a country have lost our moral and ethical compass.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/penns...elings-math-curriculum-community-members-balk

 

[Cocks rule]

Again, never said there aren’t bad apples just like they are in private schools and charter schools. In fact I said previously there were and that often educators are our own worst enemy. But I also know that that number is a small portion of quality folks who pour their heart and soul into every child they teach.

Over the years I have taught with probably 200 folks. Not one I taught with was ever accused of anything like that or any other illegal activity.

The problem with education is not what you keep presenting, the schools themselves. The problem is societal and legislative. As a whole, parents aren’t involved with their kids like they were even 5 years ago. Discipline requires jumping through hoops, and is often the teacher’s fault and not the kid. Legislation has lowered the expectations for students while raising them for schools (not an good combo). We have a growing population that does not value education (got worse when kids worked during the Covid shutdown). Are where we need to be, no. Is it a disaster, no.

I’ll also tell you this…as a principal, I have been working on building a partnership with one of our local industries. The HR director and I talked about the challenges they are facing with employees. It is the same we are with our students…want to work when they want, show up late, and can’t stay of their phones.

We as a country have lost our moral and ethical compass.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/new-y...me-transgender-causing-suicidal-ideation-suit

 

[Cocks rule]

Go back and look at my posts. I have not defended the entire system. If fact there were issues that I pointed out. Ironically you are trashing the entire system based on what you think you know.

I do not disagree that there are people in or associated with education that have no business doing so. There are a few teachers/admin/districts here and there that may try to push an agenda, but it isn’t as prevalent as it is made out to be…at least not in SC. As far as research, I believe being this being my 23rd year in education provides me with insight you do not have.

I also have an issue with “real parents”. I choose to send my two kids to public school. I am involved. I ask questions. I attend parent conferences. I do homework with them every night. We eat supper together everyday (unless I have a late night). I talk to my kids. I play with my kids. Is that not what “real parents” do? If not, you probably insulted 2/3 of the board that have school-aged children.

I still want to know what you think we are mandated to teach, how we are satanic pedophiles, and what propaganda the state of SC is telling us to teach.

As far as me being the problem I’d bet 99% of the kids I taught or coached would not agree. That is why I do what I do.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/school-board-slammed-member-calls-battle-iwo-jima-victory-unfortunate

 

[AsTheCockCrows]

To who? The ones causing most of the problems/crimes? Thank the good lord I live in an area where we don't have those kinds of problems. If we ever do, I'm moving to the upper Midwest, Minnesota, Michigan or Wisconsin to stay one step ahead.

A couple of years ago, it was becoming en-vouge to move to downtown areas in large urban cities. Well the crime has stayed. During Covid-19 you started seeing the shift of people moving to rural America since they could take their work with them.

The South is such a hot bed for transplants that the quaint towns are now not so quaint anymore. The rural areas are either undesirable due to poverty, lack of good education (no offense to people who live in Orangeburg) or overcrowded with transplants trying to change the culture (Brevard, NC, Hendersonville, NC, Landrum, SC, Travelers Rest SC, Jonesborough TN, etc).

I think at some point, you may see a white flight going to places like Wyoming, Montana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas. Eastern Washington, Idaho. jus saying. I won't live in any area where I have to worry about: porch pirates, shootings, drug dealing, carjackings, unruly schools. I guess I live in a bubble, but I'm glad I live in Upper East TN. Much rather live with Mountaineers and Hillbillies than inner city thugs.

To who? The ones causing most of the problems/crimes? Thank the good lord I live in an area where we don't have those kinds of problems. If we ever do, I'm moving to the upper Midwest, Minnesota, Michigan or Wisconsin to stay one step ahead.

A couple of years ago, it was becoming en-vouge to move to downtown areas in large urban cities. Well the crime has stayed. During Covid-19 you started seeing the shift of people moving to rural America since they could take their work with them.

The South is such a hot bed for transplants that the quaint towns are now not so quaint anymore. The rural areas are either undesirable due to poverty, lack of good education (no offense to people who live in Orangeburg) or overcrowded with transplants trying to change the culture (Brevard, NC, Hendersonville, NC, Landrum, SC, Travelers Rest SC, Jonesborough TN, etc).

I think at some point, you may see a white flight going to places like Wyoming, Montana, Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas. Eastern Washington, Idaho. jus saying. I won't live in any area where I have to worry about: porch pirates, shootings, drug dealing, carjackings, unruly schools. I guess I live in a bubble, but I'm glad I live in Upper East TN. Much rather live with Mountaineers and Hillbillies than inner city thugs.

"Funny you mention this, I have a friend who lives in Asheville ( a transplant from Auburn, NY) who loves southern Girls and he drives up to Johnson City to see the kind of girls he likes, true blonde/blue. I would wager a guess that 90% of the people here are of Scot-Irish, British, & German descent which lends its self to fair complexion and blue/green eyes. I'm of Scot-Irish and German descent and my ancestors were from Western NC/Upstate SC/Upper East TN region. (Most all originating from Buncombe/Henderson Counties in NC).
If you like girls who have hairy arm pits, legs, nose rings, etc. get you a girl in downtown Asheville...lol"

Wow. You don't come out and say it but it doesn't take much to figure out what you are wanting to say. You and Rod Dangerfield sound like bosom buddies. I bet you miss the good ole days of segregation....

 

[TN-Gamecock]

How about helping find those “resource“ teachers in Spartanburg. My grandson needs math help…5th grade. My daughter has called the school several times asking if they even know people that will tutor if we pay for it. Has asked for extra help like staying after school maybe with someone who teaches math. They just tell her they don’t have anyone and don’t know of anyone. Hell they had that when I was in school Decades ago…

I guess we’ll check out a Sylvan Learning center or something like it….my point is they seem very disinterested

Which school in Spartanburg County? Call the district office in your grandson's school district and see if there is a high school math teacher that would be willing to tutor on the side for $$$. Another idea is check with Spartanburg Tech/Greenville Tech/USC Upstate any of the colleges to see if there are adjunct professors who tutor on the side for extra $$$ as they teach for low wages. They tend to look for side gigs to supplement the income. I know this sound corny but its worth a shot.

 

[TN-Gamecock]

Boy howdy, if things were to get that bad it (we are a pretty nice town) I'm heading to your neck of the woods. People use to look at that area as a hillbilly region but they haven't lived there. It's a super nice region.

It's not a secret anymore. If people don't buy into Asheville, they tend to come here. We're becoming a hot bed for California folks. We do get some from Greenville/Spartanburg and Charlotte. Freddie if you come here, the starting prices are around 250K for small move in ready home on a small lot. Land/Homes with creeks, branches, rivers on the property are very scarce and command 500K to a couple of million depending on home sq footage and acreage.

Get here before it's all gone. The Hard Rock Cafe, Hotel and Casino in Bristol is causing a housing shortage from Johnson City to Bristol.