Man, I’m about on my last straw with pro sports

GuitarCock

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How can the owners "lock out" players with valid contracts? The crybaby billionaire owners are on strike essentially
 

atl-cock

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It's millionaires fighting with billionaires over a game that's funded primarily by middle class America. Does it matter who's to blame?
If only both sides would wake up and discuss the situation and issues collaboratively instead of adversarially....
 

atl-cock

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Eeh, I haven’t seen a baseball game in over 20 years.
I saw one last night. Don't the schools discuss uniforms before the game so as to avoid last night's situation where both USC and App St. wore black jerseys?😣
 

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@Importcock tell us about that year where a MLB owner loses a buttload of money
Actually, I was speaking more generally about business owners. But it's not totally impossible that a team owner could lose money. I mean if they had players on guaranteed contracts and they got shut down for a few months for something like covid, it could happen. But I fail to see your point. The owners have tens or hundreds of millions of their own money tied up in the team. The players just have to show up in shape and play ball. So you think the guys rounding up the carts at WalMart should make as much as Sam Walton did?
 

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Actually, I was speaking more generally about business owners. But it's not totally impossible that a team owner could lose money. I mean if they had players on guaranteed contracts and they got shut down for a few months for something like covid, it could happen. But I fail to see your point. The owners have tens or hundreds of millions of their own money tied up in the team. The players just have to show up in shape and play ball. So you think the guys rounding up the carts at WalMart should make as much as Sam Walton did?

Isn't the easier answer just for the players to buy the team? Then they can be owners and not have to negotiate. (Note the sarcasm)
 

18IsTheMan

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Whichever side of the aisle you're on...owners or players...money makes people crazy.
 

atl-cock

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Actually, I was speaking more generally about business owners. But it's not totally impossible that a team owner could lose money. I mean if they had players on guaranteed contracts and they got shut down for a few months for something like covid, it could happen. But I fail to see your point. The owners have tens or hundreds of millions of their own money tied up in the team. The players just have to show up in shape and play ball. So you think the guys rounding up the carts at WalMart should make as much as Sam Walton did?
I'm certain that the owners make substantially more than the players, i.e., billionaires vs millionaires.
I'm also certain that the owners and MLB in general have taken out insurance policies in case of a lockout.
 

atl-cock

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Shouldn't the owners make more?
Of course they should, and substantially more. The profit/salary percentage may be "normal." But because the salaries are quite high, it may be misleading.

Today, the whole thing is a power struggle. It's not like it was decades ago when players had to take winter jobs just to make ends meet.
 
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18IsTheMan

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Of course they should, and substantially more. The profit/salary percentage may be "normal." But because the salaries are quite high, it may be misleading.

Today, the whole thing is a power struggle. It's not like it was decades ago when players had to take winter jobs just to make ends meet.

I guess I'm a simple guy, but I'd be content making at least $570K to play baseball for a living, with several months off each year.
 
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18IsTheMan

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It's hard to feel sympathy for either side, since both sides are raking in the cash.
Yep. Like I said previously, I'm not on either of their sides. Neither of them care one hoot about me, or the fans in general, so I'm not pulling one or the other side to win. Both sides are greedy and totally out of touch with the fans who make the game go.
 

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I guess I'm a simple guy, but I'd be content making at least $570K to play baseball for a living, with several months off each year.
It's lots of travelling during the season, and you know they work out constantly to stay in shape during the off-season.
 

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I was never huge fan of the NBA, but I followed my Knicks. But then the league gave up on defense, the Knicks went in the toilet and the league is now a puppet for the PRC.

I was more of an NFL fan, but my Bills went into a prolonged funk and now the league is going the way of the NBA.

I still had MLB, which has always been my favorite pro sport. It wasn’t a sacrifice to stop caring about the NBA or NFL. But, man, another work stoppage? I’m just about done. I don’t care what it’s about or who’s right or wrong. Whatever line of work you’re in, if the MINIMUM salary is $570K, you have NOTHING to complain about. There’s not a single imaginable grievance to justify it.

Millions of Americans are stressed right now with insane inflation and gas prices and wondering how to make it work, and these guys can’t go to work for a salary no less than $570K. Absurd.
I've left them all slowly, over time, or rather, they left me. NBA wasn't hard with the nonsense they have going on, MLB was a little harder, but I honestly never went back completely after their last strike many, many years ago. The NFL was harder but again after all the political nonsense in the past few years, I just stopped watching. Everybody has their limits with the overpaying of athletes and the arrogance, and the politics, many aren't bothered at all, to each their own, not condeming here. I just want sports that entertain, not all the BS. That left me with college sports and sadly it has been heading down the same path for years, I don't watch that much of it anymore either. :confused:
 

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From what little I have read on the issue, it sounds like the players demands were pretty reasonable, but I think most publications have a larger agenda in making owners look like the bad guys, so it's hard to tell what's unbiased.

I did see where the owners also want to expand the playoffs and put advertisement patches on uniforms.

If the latter happens, I'll be done for sure.
I suspect it will happen, it's all about the $$, and will only get worse, but we all already know that
 

Six Million Dollar Man

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Ha ha! Reading these comments makes me so happy that the only pro sport that I like is golf. Phil, much to my chagrin, tried to muddy those waters with the Saudi league. He got *****-slapped by his fellow pros and the tour.

I gave up on NBA, MLB and NFL a long time ago. I rarely watch any of the greedy bastards.
 
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I was never huge fan of the NBA, but I followed my Knicks. But then the league gave up on defense, the Knicks went in the toilet and the league is now a puppet for the PRC.

I was more of an NFL fan, but my Bills went into a prolonged funk and now the league is going the way of the NBA.

I still had MLB, which has always been my favorite pro sport. It wasn’t a sacrifice to stop caring about the NBA or NFL. But, man, another work stoppage? I’m just about done. I don’t care what it’s about or who’s right or wrong. Whatever line of work you’re in, if the MINIMUM salary is $570K, you have NOTHING to complain about. There’s not a single imaginable grievance to justify it.

Millions of Americans are stressed right now with insane inflation and gas prices and wondering how to make it work, and these guys can’t go to work for a salary no less than $570K. Absurd.

Good to know.
 
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